Just on a general note:
Japan is still relatively safe and built to resist as best as possible against powerful earthquakes. Fukushima is still of concern but the biggest
problem they face is the cleanup and how to get rid of all the debris.
Tokyo is as safe as any other place in Japan.
Though i am back in Melbourne now as of last week, I travelled there many times in the aftermath of 3/11 and experienced quakes first hand.
My last trip there in January I noticed the tip or antenna point of Tokyo Tower was bent to a degree from the March11 earthquake.
It didn't matter where i was in Japan, I felt quakes. It's a rather humbling experience to say the least.
Doesn't matter who you talk to in Japan or where they are from, they are all expecting a 'big one'. no doubt maybe one day it could happen, maybe
it won't. Truth is, you never know where to expect anything or what to expect.
The Japanese, do worry, but at the end of the day, their worry doesn't get in the way of having a good time or let it stop them from living day to
day lives.
There is no need to be in japan to report 'on the situation'. there is no situation. there was an event, it has passed and there is a clean up
process taking place.
No doubt you love Japan, as do i, and working there as a teacher is a great experience, but this thread serves no purpose.
Hopefully there will be no more disasters, but until a day that tragedy may strike, enjoy your life.
Good on you for wanting to go to Fukushima, but i hope you are there to help rather than for a self served purpose.
For any members here who are generally interested in whats happening there and current issues, I suggest you look at the Japan Times...
www.japantimes.co.jp...
Partygirl reporting from Tokyo Japan, page 5
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 04:42 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by RealSpoke
My mother had radiation treatments when she was a child around 8 years old.
At that time I was a egg inside of her as was my half sister and half brother.
At 53 my mother died of either thyroid or lung cancer, they were not sure. She was working one day, went into the hospital the next day and was buried within two weeks.
My sister died at 61 of colon cancer.
My brother was born 3 cans short of a 6 pack, wound up in prison for bank robbery and died (in prison) at around 40. I had no contact with him so I don't know how he died.
I was born 1 month premature with cataracts, a cleft palate and severe hearing loss. Almost all the nerve endings that pick up consonants are scarred or dead.
I also now at age 59 have breast cancer and from the x-ray I saw, it looks like it's serious.
Now, onto the next generation.
My oldest son was born with ADHD and my two youngest son's are autistic. The oldest and youngest also had cataracts that had to be removed at a young age.
Now onto the next generation.
My grand daughter, like her father has ADHD.
Radiation exposure not only kills, it compromises your DNA on a chromosome level. In other words, this silent killer, you can't see it, smell it or feel it, will alter your DNA and that of any children you decide to have.
Radiation will alter your DNA until Scientists learn how to correct chromosome damage, in other words, your great great great grandchildren will also be affected, again, unless scientists figure out how to repair the chromosome damage.
I myself would not go to Japan if one were to offer me 10m USD.
Media is underplaying Fukushima because there is little to nothing they can do and don't want to panic people.
Partygirl won't be partying in another ten/twenty years.
Michio Kaku says the clean up may take 50-100 years.
This has compromised our air, the Pacific Ocean and soil.
While Tokyo is far from Fukushima, it's not far enough................the radiation is already affecting our Northwest Coast.
This isn't fear mongering...........it's reality.
Fukushima's "accident" will affect each and everyone of you reading this. I've talked to radiologists and anyone that knows about radiation says that anyone that moves to Japan is nuts.
Video below is from April this year and in Tokyo.
Partygirl may have issues if she decides to have children. She may develop cancer.
When you are young, you put yourself in harms way without a care because you think you will live forever.
Fukushima could very well be a ELE.
The news media is reporting more on who is going in and out of rehab and keeping us busy with frivolous stuff because there is little they can do.
Watch, I may not be around long enough to tell you, I told you so - but I've talked to doctors and radiologists and they have told me that Fukushima is serious, serious for the entire planet.
Again, clean up will take between 50-100 years.
People who have taken samples of the soil in Toyko itself are saying that some of the sample would be considered nuclear waste here in America.
We are never told the full truth, only half lies.
The full effects of Fukushima will not be felt right away, for many it will lay dormant for decades, but many will die of aggressive fast acting cancers and birth defects will skyrocket.
And yes, in Toyko.
My mother had radiation treatments when she was a child around 8 years old.
At that time I was a egg inside of her as was my half sister and half brother.
At 53 my mother died of either thyroid or lung cancer, they were not sure. She was working one day, went into the hospital the next day and was buried within two weeks.
My sister died at 61 of colon cancer.
My brother was born 3 cans short of a 6 pack, wound up in prison for bank robbery and died (in prison) at around 40. I had no contact with him so I don't know how he died.
I was born 1 month premature with cataracts, a cleft palate and severe hearing loss. Almost all the nerve endings that pick up consonants are scarred or dead.
I also now at age 59 have breast cancer and from the x-ray I saw, it looks like it's serious.
Now, onto the next generation.
My oldest son was born with ADHD and my two youngest son's are autistic. The oldest and youngest also had cataracts that had to be removed at a young age.
Now onto the next generation.
My grand daughter, like her father has ADHD.
Radiation exposure not only kills, it compromises your DNA on a chromosome level. In other words, this silent killer, you can't see it, smell it or feel it, will alter your DNA and that of any children you decide to have.
Radiation will alter your DNA until Scientists learn how to correct chromosome damage, in other words, your great great great grandchildren will also be affected, again, unless scientists figure out how to repair the chromosome damage.
I myself would not go to Japan if one were to offer me 10m USD.
Media is underplaying Fukushima because there is little to nothing they can do and don't want to panic people.
Partygirl won't be partying in another ten/twenty years.
Michio Kaku says the clean up may take 50-100 years.
This has compromised our air, the Pacific Ocean and soil.
While Tokyo is far from Fukushima, it's not far enough................the radiation is already affecting our Northwest Coast.
This isn't fear mongering...........it's reality.
Fukushima's "accident" will affect each and everyone of you reading this. I've talked to radiologists and anyone that knows about radiation says that anyone that moves to Japan is nuts.
Video below is from April this year and in Tokyo.
Leading Japanese newspaper The Mainichi Daily News reports:
One of the biggest issues that we face is the possibility that the spent nuclear fuel pool of the No. 4 reactor at the stricken Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant will collapse. This is something that experts from both within and outside Japan have pointed out since the massive quake struck. TEPCO, meanwhile, says that the situation is under control. However, not only independent experts, but also sources within the government say that it's a grave concern.
The storage pool in the No. 4 reactor building has a total of 1,535 fuel rods, or 460 tons of nuclear fuel, in it. The 7-story building itself has suffered great damage, with the storage pool barely intact on the building's third and fourth floors. The roof has been blown away.
A report released in February by the Independent Investigation Commission on the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Accident stated that the storage pool of the plant's No. 4 reactor has clearly been shown to be "the weakest link" in the parallel, chain-reaction crises of the nuclear disaster. The worse-case scenario drawn up by the government includes not only the collapse of the No. 4 reactor pool, but the disintegration of spent fuel rods from all the plant's other reactors. If this were to happen, residents in the Tokyo metropolitan area would be forced to evacuate.
Now, as radiation fallout envelops the entire northern hemisphere, there is a distinct possibility that the crisis will move into an even more critical and dangerous phase.
When news of the disaster first emerged we warned, contrary to mainstream experts, that it could be much worse than the Chernobyl accident of the 1980′s, that no containment would be possible for at least a few years, and radiation levels across North America would sky rocket. A year on, we are seeing adverse impacts on ocean water throughout the Pacific, and ground levels of radioactive contaminants are well beyond safety thresholds for potable water, food, and soil.
With the Japanese economy already on the brink of meltdown and the rest of the world drowning in debt, an escalation in the severity of the disaster in Japan could be the last nail in the coffin for world financial markets and economic growth.
Even worse, if storage pools in the No. 4 reactor collapse and disintegrate as the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission has warned could happen, we will see a humanitarian crisis of unprecedented scale as millions of refugees will have no choice but to flee Tokyo. They'll have no possessions, no money, no food, no water, no shelter, and a very fragile safety net.
This is what SHTF looks like. The government lies. The corporate cover ups. Downplaying of the severity of the crisis. And then... panic.
Partygirl may have issues if she decides to have children. She may develop cancer.
When you are young, you put yourself in harms way without a care because you think you will live forever.
Fukushima could very well be a ELE.
The news media is reporting more on who is going in and out of rehab and keeping us busy with frivolous stuff because there is little they can do.
Watch, I may not be around long enough to tell you, I told you so - but I've talked to doctors and radiologists and they have told me that Fukushima is serious, serious for the entire planet.
Again, clean up will take between 50-100 years.
People who have taken samples of the soil in Toyko itself are saying that some of the sample would be considered nuclear waste here in America.
We are never told the full truth, only half lies.
The full effects of Fukushima will not be felt right away, for many it will lay dormant for decades, but many will die of aggressive fast acting cancers and birth defects will skyrocket.
And yes, in Toyko.
edit on 25-4-2012 by ofhumandescent because: (no reason given)
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 05:46 AM by aLLeKs
reply to post by ofhumandescent
I am sorry for your and your personal losses, but the radiation in tokio is not higher than anywhere else... of course you can have soil which is contaminated, but you have to take into consideration, that this could have other reasons than fukushima.
for example old green glas which included something I don't remember the english name... in german it is pechblende, which was radioactive.
also there is just this arnie gundersen claiming this. all others just follow. I am really annoyed by reading this whole stuff.
A lot of people in japan have made their own measurements, including me and there was nothing special.
you always say "don't believe the government or the mass media" I am not doing this, but I have first hand experience and this is what counts.... you always have to prove facts by yourself, you can not trust anybody.
I never trust somebody 100%... so if I were you I would not even trust me
I am sorry for your and your personal losses, but the radiation in tokio is not higher than anywhere else... of course you can have soil which is contaminated, but you have to take into consideration, that this could have other reasons than fukushima.
for example old green glas which included something I don't remember the english name... in german it is pechblende, which was radioactive.
also there is just this arnie gundersen claiming this. all others just follow. I am really annoyed by reading this whole stuff.
A lot of people in japan have made their own measurements, including me and there was nothing special.
you always say "don't believe the government or the mass media" I am not doing this, but I have first hand experience and this is what counts.... you always have to prove facts by yourself, you can not trust anybody.
I never trust somebody 100%... so if I were you I would not even trust me
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 06:15 AM by slatsmandu
reply to post by TiM3LoRd
haha, well Bow chick a wow wow? was a good one. Not sure in what way its implied but you`ve gotta be an American cause I`ve used that term all my life, haha. Partygirl still hasn`t replied to my post ;(
haha, well Bow chick a wow wow? was a good one. Not sure in what way its implied but you`ve gotta be an American cause I`ve used that term all my life, haha. Partygirl still hasn`t replied to my post ;(
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 06:22 AM by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Partygirl
Just dont eat any of the radioactive food from the north region check the labels.
Just dont eat any of the radioactive food from the north region check the labels.
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 11:06 AM by H1ght3chHippie
reply to post by ErtaiNaGia
I've got a monitoring station right around the corner.
Actually it's showing a bit less than 0.1µSv radiation.
So nope, nothing out of the ordinary with the readings from her balcony.
It's not the gamma radiation anyways that's concerning me, but the Alpha particle radiation, and that's a whole different ballgame.
I've got a monitoring station right around the corner.
Actually it's showing a bit less than 0.1µSv radiation.
So nope, nothing out of the ordinary with the readings from her balcony.
It's not the gamma radiation anyways that's concerning me, but the Alpha particle radiation, and that's a whole different ballgame.
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 11:12 AM by wonhunlo
reply to post by Partygirl
What a place to move to!
Leave as soon as possible.
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What a place to move to!
Leave as soon as possible.
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reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 10:19 PM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by aLLeKs
Do the research, read the statistics of miscarriages, deformities and other stuff starting to show up in and around Tokyo.
Do the research, read the statistics of miscarriages, deformities and other stuff starting to show up in and around Tokyo.
reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 11:47 PM by aLLeKs
reply to post by ofhumandescent
Sure, but do you look 2 posts above yours and read first hand measurements!
That is what I said before, you believe scientist, but for example the government is just spreading disinformation in you opinion.
But what about measurements done by myself? are they wrong? just because scientist say something does not equal, that I have to believe it. Some people believe TEPCO and the government, but I do not! And I don't believe a scientist just because he states something different...
I would believe, if I had not done the measurements by myself.
Is is not strange, that more and more people here on ATS back up the opinion, that tokyo is not covered in nuclear waste, with their own data?
Are they all lying and wrong, just because scientist say different?
Strange, all the Geiger counters we have must be lying...
I really hate people who just sit in front of their computer and reading science articles (from some suspicious site like beforeitsnews and so on) and claiming that they know what is going on.
You know nothing! You don't have the first hand measurements! You just believe everything you read.... the biggest scammer is Arnie Gundersen, and I really don't know why so many people believe him.
Sure there is radiation arround fukushima, but you pretend like whole japan is contaminated. And all is coming from fukushima... ever thought of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? This is also Japan
and there are really people living.... this are cities where I don't want to go. But Tokyo is ok as
long as I can trust 1000+ geiger counters.
Sure, but do you look 2 posts above yours and read first hand measurements!
That is what I said before, you believe scientist, but for example the government is just spreading disinformation in you opinion.
But what about measurements done by myself? are they wrong? just because scientist say something does not equal, that I have to believe it. Some people believe TEPCO and the government, but I do not! And I don't believe a scientist just because he states something different...
I would believe, if I had not done the measurements by myself.
Is is not strange, that more and more people here on ATS back up the opinion, that tokyo is not covered in nuclear waste, with their own data?
Are they all lying and wrong, just because scientist say different?
Strange, all the Geiger counters we have must be lying...
I really hate people who just sit in front of their computer and reading science articles (from some suspicious site like beforeitsnews and so on) and claiming that they know what is going on.
You know nothing! You don't have the first hand measurements! You just believe everything you read.... the biggest scammer is Arnie Gundersen, and I really don't know why so many people believe him.
Sure there is radiation arround fukushima, but you pretend like whole japan is contaminated. And all is coming from fukushima... ever thought of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? This is also Japan
and there are really people living.... this are cities where I don't want to go. But Tokyo is ok as
long as I can trust 1000+ geiger counters.
. So I have to go now, but I'll keep checking this thread every day. Also,
hopefully I can try the coffee-filter geigert thing suggested above tonight. Thanks again for the interest!reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 04:58 AM by Human0815
reply to post by Partygirl
Have a look here this is from a Non-Governmental Citizen Organization,
the Translation works well with the Bing Translator,
this is only for the Japanese Products so you may get poisoned by the Gaijin-Food!
www.crms-jpn.com...
Ganbatte and forget Akiba for Computers, go to Hard-Off!!!
(much, much cheaper, a 512 for 1.500-2.000 Yen)
Have a look here this is from a Non-Governmental Citizen Organization,
the Translation works well with the Bing Translator,
this is only for the Japanese Products so you may get poisoned by the Gaijin-Food!
www.crms-jpn.com...
Ganbatte and forget Akiba for Computers, go to Hard-Off!!!
(much, much cheaper, a 512 for 1.500-2.000 Yen)
edit on 26-4-2012 by Human0815 because: forgot the link, (WWW) (Lol in Japanese)
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 09:37 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by aLLeKs
I sincerly hope you are right and at age 59 you don't have to have a breast biopsy, waiting to hear whether or not you have cancer.
My husband said Tokyo was his all time favorite town, the people were wonderful, it's a exciting town like no other.
Wishing you luck, you may need it.
We all may need it.
I spoke with two radiologists yesterday about this and they told me in their opinion, one had a seminar he could sign up for in Tokyo and he would like to go, but with what he knows, he is passing it up, holding off because he says he believes the situation for most of Japan is now quite serious.
The other radiologist said she too wouldn't go to Japan right now, nor eat any Pacific fish that migrate from Japanese waters herself.
Only passing along information.
Again best of luck.
Safe journey
I sincerly hope you are right and at age 59 you don't have to have a breast biopsy, waiting to hear whether or not you have cancer.
My husband said Tokyo was his all time favorite town, the people were wonderful, it's a exciting town like no other.
Wishing you luck, you may need it.
We all may need it.
I spoke with two radiologists yesterday about this and they told me in their opinion, one had a seminar he could sign up for in Tokyo and he would like to go, but with what he knows, he is passing it up, holding off because he says he believes the situation for most of Japan is now quite serious.
The other radiologist said she too wouldn't go to Japan right now, nor eat any Pacific fish that migrate from Japanese waters herself.
Only passing along information.
Again best of luck.
Safe journey
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