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Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by Alien Abduct
I'm an aviation expert.
It's a missile. I'm 99% confident.
You see after the first impact the guidance system makes a little correction to get it back in the air. You can see the thrust from the rocket motor and the missile accelerates again just after the first impact and self corrects it's attitude.
Just before the first impact the guidance system attempts to level out. This looks like a guidance system failure to me. I'm pretty confident about that.
I am 100% sure its a rocket driven vehicle. Though it does appear from the distance of the camera to have an odd shape. It could be a winged missile like this.
Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gortex
A missile?
I've never seen one glow like that and skip in that manner upon impact..
Originally posted by Beamish
I've seen the video before. And read the same explanation, which is more than likely the correct one.
However, what has always puzzled me about this clip is that if it is a missile - a long tubular airframe - and considering the immense forces exerted upon it by the first impact, and considering its incoming trajectory is smooth (no wobble or spinning) and we see the missile - I'm assuming sideways on - hit the ground so hard, why does it skip back up into the air in the same trajectory - with the same profile to the camera - and not flipping and pitching wildly? Try throwing something long and make it skip perfectly...
A disc will...
Now, I'm no expert in flow mechanics, but that does seem odd to me.
Perhaps it's not a missile, but a prototype aircraft. A saucer shaped one.
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by ka119
The main point in that regard its the thrust. You can clearly see the thrust.
This is especially the case after impact when it makes an attitude adjustment. The thrust follows that line of motion for a second or so. Look right after impact 1.
It would be awesome (in the real sense) if it were a 'saucer UFO' but I don't think this is the case here.
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gortex
A missile?
I've never seen one glow like that and skip in that manner upon impact..
It only appears to glow because it's all white. And the missile levels out before impact so it does skip and not crash.
Look at the fact that it still has all that forward motion. This means the kinetic energy is still in motion and did not dissipate in the first impact.
Then look at the angle of attack in the second impact. No leveling out and all that energy goes into making it explode like the coyote's rocket ride.
post by Spirit Warrior 11:11
It would be awesome (in the real sense) if it were a 'saucer UFO' but I don't think this is the case here.
I believe that all your observations are correct, but whos to say that a UFO is not demonstrating these same capabilities? I mean, all of the observations you made are good, but none of them conclusively point to it being a missile
Originally posted by ka119
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by Alien Abduct
I'm an aviation expert.
It's a missile. I'm 99% confident.
You see after the first impact the guidance system makes a little correction to get it back in the air. You can see the thrust from the rocket motor and the missile accelerates again just after the first impact and self corrects it's attitude.
Just before the first impact the guidance system attempts to level out. This looks like a guidance system failure to me. I'm pretty confident about that.
I am 100% sure its a rocket driven vehicle. Though it does appear from the distance of the camera to have an odd shape. It could be a winged missile like this.
I believe that all your observations are correct, but whos to say that a UFO is not demonstrating these same capabilities? I mean, all of the observations you made are good, but none of them conclusively point to it being a missile
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
Are you waiting for an expert to tell you it was a missile or a witness?
Because you already have one of those
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
Ok, just to entertain the saucer theory.
In the first place this thing would have to spin like crazy to be stable enough for flight.
This makes rocket propulsion an impossibility unless there are two counter-rotating masses at the CG of the craft which make up the majority of the mass of the vehicle.
Even then control surfaces would not work as we know them.
The object hits the ground in impact 1 and maintains stability and forward motion, makes a quick 45 degree adjustment, accelerates, and moves on to crash. If this were a spinning object it would have had major issues by hitting the ground flat. The kinetic energy loss would create an unstable airframe.
Last, you can clearly see the exhaust gasses. This cannot be a spinning object.