How can someone possibly NOT believe in Aliens? it doesn't make sense

reply to post by Argyll


Well said. I know life exists outside earth and that you would have to be stupid to believe otherwise. In my own opinion I think something is going on that the government is not telling us or can't explain. There are so many witnesses, testimonies, paintings, relics, hieroglyphs, and scripts dating back centuries. Astronauts Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins have even talked about weird lights/orbs they have seen, we're talking about the first humans on the Moon. In the end though it all comes down to ourselves, the majority of humanity wouldn't want to experience change, yes a small percentage might, but as everyone knows a small number is usually a loss. What I'm trying to say is that Humanity was basically built off the "Bible" and then had a leader, if one day we found out we were being visited by these Extraterrestrial beings there would be so much to answer, history could be re-written, or our own history could be a lie, no one would know what to believe. Anyways enough blabbing

www.greatdreams.com...
In 1961, Betty and Barney Hill were abducted by aliens and taken aboard their spacecraft. During her abduction, Betty was shown a star map. She was asked by an alien to point out the Earth, but since Betty had no knowledge of astronomy, she couldn't reply. After her abduction, and under hypnotic regression Betty Hill drew the star map as accurately as possible. A few years later, Marjorie Fish built a few models of star systems using plastic balls and wire .. one of these models matched Betty Hill's diagram. The star system from which Betty had been told the aliens originated from was Zeta 2 Reticuli!

The link has some very interesting topics as well. As far as I know the story has never been debunked there has just been a lot of controversy on the topic.

Most rational people simply do/can not believe in something thay have no knowledge of. If they can not touch, taste, smell, or see it personally and there is not a team of reputable higher educated specialists reporting as fact, then why should they? Like most here I have a opinion they exist ('they' = extra terrestrial biological life forms with intelligence of varying degrees including technological or beyond) but to say I whole heartedly believe this is simply false. My opinion is based not only on the math presented in the op's first post, but also all the circumstantial evidence compiled over the decades/centuries.

Lets face it, no one here can provide undisputable proof of 'aliens'. And as such to 'out of hand' believe in things that offer no proof is a venture of a philosophical nature, akin to a religious faith based belief. So to directly answer the op's question, I say how can someone possibly believe Aliens exist without undisputable proof? How can they be expected too? And most importantly, the difference between opinion and belief is a definitive leap.

1. Every scientist would agree that given the size of the universe, alien life is pretty much a fact.

2. INTELLIGENT alien life is a whole other matter though. The reason for this is: Look at our planet. Life is everywhere! Countless number of species - literally millions of different species! Number of intelligent species: exactly one. That is not an encouraging quota. And that's why some scientists are very cautious about predictions concerning intelligent life elsewhere. Given what we know, we could be a freaky accident, that never happened anywhere else.

3. Intelligent life that is visiting our planet is a concept that seems scientificly unlikely, because of Nr. 2 + the fact that interstellar travel is freaking hard to pull off, unless you figure out a lot of things that we don't have the slightest clue about right now.


Keep in mind though that science is always very cautious about ideas that seem to be wishful thinking and lack the hard data to back them up.

Before the discovery of the first planet outside our solar system - I think in 1995, many people suspected that other stars would have planets. But scientists were very cautious about that, too. There wasn't any data to support that theory and there seemed to be a lot of wishful thinking involved. But in 1995 the first planet was discovered - by scientists of course - and this field practically exploded in the following years.

The fact that scientists won't simply accept that there are intelligent aliens out there, is not because they are all killjoys. It's because there is no scientific data on this subject (yet). And scientists don't like to write fiction.

God created EVERYTHING from NOTHING!! Stars, earth, all the animals, the laws of physics, light, quantum elements!!!

But for that one last thing, a woman, he needed a....RIB??!???!

I dont understand how people can believe in any type of religion ?

having seen a number of, for want of a better word, 'ufos', i firmly believe in their existence, and presence in our skies. but notwithstanding any personal sightings, i simply can't accept that we humans are the only life in the universe. it does not compute.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
For some of us, there is no question about it.
For some of us, the truth is stranger than fiction.

Not that it'll fit into the story at all, but there's a weird way of looking at that trailer. If you think of the person speaking as someone who's talking about the future she can see at the start, and one who's thrown off her "conditioned" self, and the light in all of their eyes as our collective true selves arising, that trailer is seriously awesome.

As in "It is no longer, your world." A person's true self is speaking to all the programmed, fake reality conditioned people currently on Earth, and announcing that we're taking our world back.

Try it and see what you think.

On the note of films, for those that haven't seen this I highly recommend it. It's not the fear porn it might appear to be from this trailer, it's actually a great story. I rarely watch films, and I very rarely watch a film then watch it again, but I watched this again the next night and will probably watch it for a 3rd time soon.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
You must of read the same book I did about DNA in a beaker and shake it up....good book but this is not really correct....it is not random, DNA, chemicals etc follow set rules too...its not like your computer anology.

No one has been able to figure out a rule or set of rules that chemicals follow where they automatically form themselves into complex living organisms. And even the simplest living thing is remarkably complex.

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Xtrozero
You must of read the same book I did about DNA in a beaker and shake it up....good book but this is not really correct....it is not random, DNA, chemicals etc follow set rules too...its not like your computer anology.

No one has been able to figure out a rule or set of rules that chemicals follow where they automatically form themselves into complex living organisms. And even the simplest living thing is remarkably complex.

en.wikipedia.org...

Well, this won't explain complex organisms, but the chemical origins of life are certainly better than nothing.

Originally posted by arpgme
There are about 300 sextillion stars in the universe (300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000). That is 3 followed by 23 zeros [1]. Yes, this is just stars, it's not even counting all of the planets going around each and every one of them. Among all of those stars there are billions of planets which are able to be lived on [2]. By livable, yes, I do mean Earth-like planets... Also, remember there is evolution which allows a species to adapt to a new environment. So what are the chances that there is absolutely NO life in the universe but us? How can anyone possibly think this?

i believe in extra-terrestrial life i don't know about them visiting earth; but i always leave an open mind. for me, the distances are so great from one star to the next that it would take forever to get to. then a planet would have to have a species smart enough to make ships able to leave their own star system. we are the most intelligent species on our planet and we have only gone to the moon. so extra-terrestrial YES.... smart enough to come to earth and probe people..... not so certain

Originally posted by Xenoglossy
Well, this won't explain complex organisms, but the chemical origins of life are certainly better than nothing.

Yeah, chemicals are good. And they have a tendency to naturally mix and combine in certain predictable ways. But the question still remains. How do you get from the chemicals to life?

A --------------> ? ------------------> B
DEAD ----------> ? ------------------> ALIVE

The only need for alien ET life are the UFOs.
Naturally Speilberg explained the ETs and UFO to all of us and we believe.
Well stop believing cause the pursuit is detrimental to the planet.
All that free energy is going to waste while we must recycle to keep the elite in clover.
Speculation of life off the planet has no need otherwise.
A super big conspiracy of course supported by universities and governments world wide.

How can someone possibly NOT believe in Aliens? it doesn't make sense

Short answer:
Because "belief" and "sense" don't have to walk together.
Actually, most of the time they don't.