May 20, 2012 - A Significant Date

Originally posted by Evildead

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by Evildead

 

The nostradamus info is completely wrong. Just using Stellarium you can tell this info does not pertain to this period, in fact, it did apply to the year of 1549 when in May those planetary positions were in place and in November of that year was the large EQ and hailstorm. A quick google search also revealed this info.

Good find. So Nostradamus possibly wrote those quatrains in relation to what he had witnessed. He didn't die until 1566. We can definately scratch the Nostradamus quatrains from May 20, 2012 then... unless someone finds different quatrains of his that point to that date lol Star for you LightAssassin.

interesting presentation Evildead, this conversation always fascinates me.
others tend to discourage such speculation but enjoy the adventure, you are only expanding your mind. (so far)

others have covered points i would but i will emphasize that since this is a conspiracy site ... it could very well be possible that interpretations are mistaken on ALL sides.

there are many (too many in my opinion) coincidences colliding on that very day. some planned, others naturally occurring and a few that could be considered historically relevent.

thought you might enjoy these two topics alongside this new discovery of yours.
previously mentioned ... the coming eclipse, being a pacific traveler, crosses directly over Easter Island (topic 1) and many ppl are venturing there for an ancitipated anomally.

using the ATS Search, you might find this and other similar topics useful and of interest - www.abovetopsecret.com... / (topic 2) if the link doesn't work (this computer is fudged and i cannot get the "link" to work) just type "Timewave Zero+pg148" - scroll half the page, beyond the nonsense and check out the time resonances mentioned. there are other good pages in there but that came up on a quick search.

ppl have been pondering this month for many years. not just a certain date, although both 5/11 & 5/20 have been popularized, but the majority of the month. ancients, elders, scholars, humans of all breeds, knowledge and ability to speculate so don't be afraid to join the expert speculators we have here.
in the end, what we do have is Today, enjoy it

reply to post by Evildead


I pointed out the failures of the quatrain on page 1 and you denied it until now. Weird.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Any real news outlet telling this story?
Since this happens in May there must be some chatter from something more like a real news group.

reply to post by stereologist

does this one count in your playbook ?
www.tactical-life.com... title

For the first time in history, Russian and American airborne forces will hold joint drills in the US. The anti-terror exercises scheduled for May 2012 will get off to a flying start with a tactical landing operation and “terrorist” camp raid.

i don't believe it's been mentioned in any msm blurb yet, however, since this has been planned for some time, i doubt many will see it as anything truly concerning.
(i would disagree with above sentiment but that's just me) when you consider all of the "military" events occurring there, during or near the same period of time, i'm naturally concerned.

on the conspiracy side of the fence, one has to wonder if this is just an open door to extend the Fast and Furious program under a new name. if i remember correctly, didn't we just train the Mexican forces there, last year ?? how's that working out so far ?
ahh yes, here ya go from 4/2011 ... insightcrime.org...

In a sign of the increasing level of security cooperation between the two countries, an elite United States military unit known as the Asymmetric Warfare Group (AWG) is training Mexican soldiers in counternarcotics operations. -snip- As InSight Crime has noted, the security relationship between the U.S. and Mexico has reached a new level, due to the $1.4 billion dollar Merida Initiative. Still, seeing as the death toll in the country continues to rise, it is unclear whether the partnership has brought about significant improvements on the ground.

i suppose there is a first for everything but i sure do find the timing of it all, curiously questionable.

reply to post by Honor93


The link you posted is blocked where I am. I will check it later.

I went to the Fort Carson website and it does not list this event. Why not? You'd think that all big exercises would be listed.

reply to post by stereologist

You'd think that all big exercises would be listed.

no, actually, i wouldn't even think to check the website, my info often arrives from a soldier in the field (some of us call 'em "family").
i'm not familiar with the website and not really sure why they would list a joint exercise on a public site anyway, besides, isn't the site a recruiting tool?

i would think that information such as (detailed) exercises would be available to those with secure logins, are you one of those people?

out of curiousity, since the Mexican exercises were held there last year, do tell, are/were they listed on the website ?? if not, why would these be ??

reply to post by Honor93

no, actually, i wouldn't even think to check the website, my info often arrives from a soldier in the field (some of us call 'em "family").
i'm not familiar with the website and not really sure why they would list a joint exercise on a public site anyway, besides, isn't the site a recruiting tool?

i would think that information such as (detailed) exercises would be available to those with secure logins, are you one of those people?

out of curiousity, since the Mexican exercises were held there last year, do tell, are/were they listed on the website ?? if not, why would these be ??

Yes I would expect joint exercises to be listed. I've seen them listed. That is why I looked. About the only places making this claim are sources known for their bad reporting habits. You know what I mean - the places where almost every story is wrong.

Exercises, especially one as large as claimed, and one with foreign nationals involved are highly touted as great efforts in friendship and cooperation.

Originally posted by MaxBlack
While I am quite familiar with this information on a personal level, I only wanted to add that while May 20, 2012 is indeed a date to note, we should begin to add the recent reports of Russian and foreign troop training in Denver CO set to begin on May 21-24 to protect American assets against domestic elements.

The Denver Airport along with NSA and CIA assets will be supposedly physically taken over and controlled by such foreign troops in an effort to protect such sites from being taken over by outside elements that threaten the existing regime in power.

BS.

According to the exercise scenario, soldiers of the two countries will hold a tactical airborne operation, including the reconnaissance of imaginary terrorists' camp and a raid, After the operation, a helicopter will evacuate the soldiers the Russian soldiers will also exercise with the U.S. special service weapons in the drills in Fort Carson, Colorado.

That is after the Russkies attend a baseball game in Colorado Springs.

Fear porn. Let it not become your day job.

reply to post by stereologist

Yes I would expect joint exercises to be listed. I've seen them listed. That is why I looked.

i went to the page after you asked and got the "page cannot be displayed" marker in the "events" window so i saw nothing and didn't really expect to, either.

you haven't said if the Mexican exercises were listed, why not?
suppose you didn't bother to look.

About the only places making this claim are sources known for their bad reporting habits. You know what I mean - the places where almost every story is wrong.

to each their own, i don't diss sources because that's how you miss the important blurbs that occasionally appear and are often correct.

source attacks are often used by those who have no recourse for the information being presented.

to me, no source is a bad one unless you're talking msm or pundits, they're paid to misdirect.
all the rest can at least be considered, dismissed or accepted for it's informational value rather source bias.

i will say that i've seen more complete and factual info coming from RT than i have from many msm outlets, so who is acceptable to you, as a source, wiki ?

Exercises, especially one as large as claimed, and one with foreign nationals involved are highly touted as great efforts in friendship and cooperation.

sure 4 months AFTER THE FACT (as my prvs link indicates ... Mexico here in April ... printed and released to public in August)

not saying it doesn't happen but considering last April was ripe with the Arab Spring, and the fallout from the SVR bust ('russian spy ring') was still pretty fervent and fresh in the public's mind just might have something to do with the silence since then, maybe ?

compound that with the F&F fallout which can likely be connected directly to the Mexican exercises, i doubt any PR person would suggest open advertisment, would you ??

Originally posted by AlchemicalBinoculars

Originally posted by Honor93

others tend to discourage such speculation but enjoy the adventure, you are only expanding your mind.

So your definition of mind expansion is my definition of mental, useless clutter. Got that, thanks for dropping by.

ummm, where did i define anything ??
but, i will say this ... you give me goooooose bumps when the personal attacks come crawling out of the woodwork over so few words.
ooooh, i just love that feeling one gets when you know you've touched a nerve.
be well.

edit: ya know, some ppl actually enjoy sifting through the useless clutter in a sincere effort to find a truth, especially at the onset of an adventure and learning should always be an adventure,
since the entire thread is based on speculation of a future date, what's the problem ??

reply to post by Honor93

i went to the page after you asked and got the "page cannot be displayed" marker in the "events" window so i saw nothing and didn't really expect to, either.

you haven't said if the Mexican exercises were listed, why not?
suppose you didn't bother to look.

I looked for news sources other than the single article and found nothing. Hardly a joint operation. It was more a training operation as is well known to happen between the US and other countries especially Western hemisphere nations.

to each their own, i don't diss sources because that's how you miss the important blurbs that occasionally appear and are often correct.

You mean almost always incorrect.

source attacks are often used by those who have no recourse for the information being presented.

Laughable claim. Why go back to place that publish nonsense?

to me, no source is a bad one unless you're talking msm or pundits, they're paid to misdirect.

So your justification to avoid sources more likely to be correct is what? You don't like what you hear?

sure 4 months AFTER THE FACT (as my prvs link indicates ... Mexico here in April ... printed and released to public in August)

Training such as that has been going on for decades.

And you finish up with excuses. No wonder. You are dealing with bad sources and have to make excuses to cover up their horrible pattern of lousy fake reporting.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Evildead

 

I pointed out the failures of the quatrain on page 1 and you denied it until now. Weird.

I denied nothing. I didn't know for sure if the quatrains were related to May 20, 2012 or not. I simply posted that others thought it related to that date. I also pointed out that a date was given by Nostradamus via astrology references he made in those quatrains.

You simply posted that those astrology references didn't fit with the date and never explained where your info. came from. So, I never denied the Nostradamus quatrains were misinterpreted. I was waiting for someone, perhaps with Stellarium, to investigate and give the source of their research. I would've done it myself but I was too busy and don't have Stellarium on my pc.

I'm expecting an annular "ring of fire" eclipse on May 20, 2012 and Venus transitting the Sun on June 6th. That's it. All I was doing in starting this thread was reporting what I found concerning May 20, 2012 and allowing others to debunk and decide on their own just like radio shows like Coast to Coast AM do.

reply to post by Evildead

You simply posted that those astrology references didn't fit with the date and never explained where your info. came from. So, I never denied the Nostradamus quatrains were misinterpreted. I was waiting for someone, perhaps with Stellarium, to investigate and give the source of their research. I would've done it myself but I was too busy and don't have Stellarium on my pc.

Who needs Stellarium when you can look it up online as I did. I posted where the planets were and partly because I can look up and see them. Can you find the planets?

You stuck to these hoaxes which you reposted without doing even a little checking. That is why the internet gets cluttered with stupidity. People simply repeat them without a thought.

I'm expecting an annular "ring of fire" eclipse on May 20, 2012 and Venus transitting the Sun on June 6th. That's it. All I was doing in starting this thread was reporting what I found concerning May 20, 2012 and allowing others to debunk and decide on their own just like radio shows like Coast to Coast AM do.

Coast to Coast AM is a show promoting hoaxes. They make money by getting an audience of gullible listeners.

This is what I wrote. Notice I did not post a link to a hoax site.

Taurus is May to June. Mercury and Venus are close to the Sun and therefore near Taurus in May of every year. Mars is in Leo. Saturn is in Virgo. Jupiter is over by Pisces.

So how does this Nostradamus quatrain indicate this year?

Shortly here was what you posted.

Get off your lazy ass and research it yourself and if you're not motivated enough to do that then just move on to something else.

In the future you should get off your lazy backside and not make excuses as to why you promoted hoaxes.

You also wrote the following

Nostradamus wrote the quatrains I posted; many people interpret those quatrains to point to May 20th, 2012 due to the astrology references in the quatrains.

An important lesson to learn is that the number of people making a claim has no bearing on whether a claim is right or wrong. So now you know that the people that made the claim had no idea what they were talking about and cannot be relied upon as sources of information.

Originally posted by stereologist

Coast to Coast AM is a show promoting hoaxes. They make money by getting an audience of gullible listeners.

OMG and Kerry Cassidy is due on there soon. Is nothing sacred?

Here's my thoughts:

Name one time in history that these dooms day predictions have come true.

Nuff said.

well, yes it is a very important date. it is my wife and i's 23rd wedding anniversary! (for real)
interesting article. does make one think!

I still find it intriguing that the Sun is being forecast to flip it's poles or go quadrupolar sometime in May and 1 year earlier then expected. Here's the ATS link to that thread by PapagorgioCZ;

Sun Quadrupolar in May. Pole Reversal in One Month or So, About One Year Earlier Then Expected

Would the poles flip before, during, or after the annular eclipse and alignment on May 20, 2012?
It will be interesting to see what happens.

reply to post by Evildead


The 22 year cycle of the Sun involves 2 11 year cycles. The change from one magnetic orientation to the other is not a quick, overnight event. There won't be much difference over the course of a few days or weeks. This is seen in the plots of numbers of sun spots over time.