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Topic started on 23-4-2012 @ 04:43 PM by Maxmars

www.washingtonpost.com... ory.html



By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, April 23, 12:05 PM

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is rebranding and reorganizing its clandestine spy shop, sending more of its case officers to work alongside CIA officers to gather intelligence in places like China, after a decade of focusing intensely on war zones.

Several hundred case officers will make up the new Defense Clandestine Service. Drawn from the Defense Intelligence Agency, the officers will be sent to beef up U.S. intelligence teams .....
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 04:43 PM by Maxmars
Now, unless my logic is weak here, it seems that this would indicate that the CIA was in for more than it could handle in it's mandated charter of activities... So much so that the Federal government has spawned a "new" service from the DoD to "augment" the CIA's efforts overseas.

The new effort was described by a senior defense official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the classified program.


Ah.. the ever-present and ubiquitous anonymous "senior defense official" that every major news outlet seems to have access to...

Now here's the deal... the CIA is supposed to provide intelligence for national-level policy-makers about the state of other nations.... but perhaps because the CIA is part of DoD... it seems to prefer sticking to military intelligence gathering....

Defense Department case officers already secretly gather intelligence across the globe on terrorism, weapons of mass destruction and other issues, mostly working out of CIA stations in embassies and operating undercover like their CIA counterparts.

But an internal study by the Director of National Intelligence last year found the agency still focused more on its traditional mission of providing the military with intelligence in war zones, and less on what’s called “national” intelligence — gathering and disseminating information on global issues and sharing that intelligence with other national security agencies, the official said.


So ... rather than redirect the CIA to its original purpose .. political and diplomatic intelligence, they are going to make the DoD's Defense Intelligence Agency do the CIA's job.... rather than have the military deal with military intelligence...

Are we "broken" at the top? What the heck are they thinking?... oh wait, I know.... The CIA is the corporate espionage element of the military industrial complex.... so they need to stay close to that topic...

Or maybe since the Wikileaks scandals, none of the CIA operatives have any clout or trust in the other nations of the world....

Who knows?

The changes were worked out by the top Pentagon intelligence official, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Michael Vickers, and his CIA counterpart who heads the National Clandestine Service, and briefed to Congress before Defense Secretary Leon Panetta signed off on the new program last Friday.


Nice that we are told after the "new" money pit has already been dug....




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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 04:49 PM by boncho
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Several hundred case officers will make up the new Defense Clandestine Service.




Why can't they just create an agency called, "The Agency"



Or do they already have that?




-On a side note. It is getting increasingly difficult for fiction writers to come up with agency names given that almost every possibility is an actual organization in the US.
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 04:54 PM by Maxmars
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The have a "No Such Agency" but no "The Agency." Give it time... they'll have agencies and services for everything the middle men can think up.

It's kind of sad that while we fret over economics, international friction, and the state of the human condition,... they have the time, money, and political will to create more fodder for future 'blow-back.'


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 05:00 PM by boncho
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It's kind of sad that while we fret over economics, international friction, and the state of the human condition,... they have the time, money, and political will to create more fodder for future 'blow-back.'




I think you would be hard pressed to find one instance of blowback that hasn't been capitalized on however.

"Mr. Senior Pentagon official, sir, seems we encountered some blowback in (Insert ME country here)"

"Dammit Jim, we caused this!"

"What should we do sir?"

"Blame our former assets, the current regime in the country and ask Washington for more funding."
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 05:12 PM by boncho
Something I'm a little confused about too, is this is basically the pentagon admitting to the world stage that they will be active in subversive operations in other countries, like Iran, China, et al.

Also known as.... Spying!

Defense officials told the Post that what's going on is an increasing convergence of military intelligence and the CIA when it comes to clandestine operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The tighter relationship has also filtered into U.S. espionage activities involving Iran, China and nations involved in terrorism or nuclear proliferation.

The Post's source said the new clandestine service would "make sure officers are in the right locations to pursue those requirements."

Read more:
www.upi.com...


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So the focus until now has been primarily war zones, but they need more intel OPs in countries that are classified as war zones as of yet. (My impression?)

I'm not going to be so naive to say no one is spying on each other. As there are UN reports on China's activities in the West, and of course, Russia got nailed recently with the lady sleeper cell, one where the Washington Presidential Cabinet was targeted.

But hold on

Espionage is getting so blatant that there is now an announcement to the world that spies will be infiltrating foreign nations.

Talk about the pretext to cold wars....
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 06:27 PM by Majic



reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 06:56 PM by Maxmars
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Perhaps I put too much stock in this:

Several hundred case officers will make up the new Defense Clandestine Service.


I suppose we could split hairs... but it's still worthy of ridicule in my opinion. More is never enough for them. Fear is their playground.
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reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 01:39 PM by longjohnbritches
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I though this guy with the AP must work for Dai Li of the Chinese secret service.

By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, April 23, 12:05 PM

WASHINGTON —" The Pentagon is rebranding and reorganizing its clandestine spy shop, sending more of its case officers to work alongside CIA officers to gather intelligence in places like China, "

What the heck do you think the chances are of catching them Red handed now??? LOL LOL Sneaky Chinese news men lol
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