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reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:05 AM by nukeworker
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Not trying to downplay what has happened but , I work on reactors and background radiation has had NO change from before or after Japans event . I could tell you things that would send you spinning but due to who I work for I cant , sorry . In no way am I a troll or sent here for some dissinformation campaighn . I just find it funny how people freak out over this . Waste has been dumped for years by a lots of different people . I guess what I am trying to say is this was nothing new ! I will agree with you nuclear power is not the best option , but its out of my hands . Trust me I monitor the levels as I have children myself and I do live in the Northwest of the USA , anyway take care .


reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:06 AM by kreese
Yeah, this is insane. The only thing that makes the slightest bit of sense with regards to our global situation, is that there is a force within society that is actually trying to destroy this planet! The questions are: Why, and Who?

What kind of people would allow the building of Nuclear Power Plants on a fault line, or even nuclear power plants at all if we cannot properly dispose of the waste? What kind of people would allow for the Gulf of Mexico disaster to happen, the Corexit??? These are the types of RISKS that you simply DO NOT TAKE!

What kind of people would suppress free energy in place of fossil fuels which are not only unsustainable/finite, but are also toxic and extremely harmful to the environment? What kind of people would suppress medical advancements in order to maintain revenues from unnecessary treatments? What kind of people would create wars for revenue? What kind of people would release incurable viruses on the public, fully knowing that it has the potential to effect them, and their own future generations?

Something is seriously F*&ed up here folks!


Ya know, I am aware of how nightmarish our human history is... conquests, wars, feudalism, the dark ages, torture.... people are capable of some really SICK sh**!!! BUT, at least back then the technology was limited. You can commit genocide and murder a couple million people, and it didn't have future ramifications in terms of an unsustainable, toxic biosphere. Things are different now, DU remains radioactive for billions of years... wtf??? We're not stupid!!! We have ingenuity to create free, global energy... in fact, we might have even been capable of this all the way back to the days of Tesla. So wtf is all this Nuclear power plant, oil spill, energy wars BS????

It's so sad, I just don't understand it. :.. (



reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:25 AM by Nucleardoom

Not trying to downplay what has happened but , I work on reactors and background radiation has had NO change from before or after Japans event . I could tell you things that would send you spinning but due to who I work for I cant , sorry .
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. The EPA raised the level of permissible radiation in the environment for this very reason.

EPA raises "acceptable" limits


Nice try there shillmaster. And on a related note, the fact you "could tell us things that would send us spinning" but won't really shows what this nuclear industry is all about - lies, deceit and coverups. You fit right in there don't ya? Well, I guess the lives of you and your family and everyone you know are worthless compared to that precious job you've got to protect.
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reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:36 AM by aLLeKs
Originally posted by nukeworker
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post by PageAlaCearl



Not trying to downplay what has happened but , I work on reactors and background radiation has had NO change from before or after Japans event . I could tell you things that would send you spinning but due to who I work for I cant , sorry . In no way am I a troll or sent here for some dissinformation campaighn . I just find it funny how people freak out over this . Waste has been dumped for years by a lots of different people . I guess what I am trying to say is this was nothing new ! I will agree with you nuclear power is not the best option , but its out of my hands . Trust me I monitor the levels as I have children myself and I do live in the Northwest of the USA , anyway take care .

Thank you for this post... I am working for a German company in Japan at the moment and one of my colleagues works for the radiation lab (in fact the only person ) and he is in charge of controlling foods etc. and there is no change in radiation.
Stop the fearmongering. There is a lot of toxine which is in our food.
30km away from Fukushima, there is lower radiation then in Munich for example.


reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:37 AM by lostangel818
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Im gonna go get checked out soon .
i've never felt like this in my life ..
im gonna get the word out to as many people as i can .
many people i know have no clue about whats happening .
Its not even in the news .

sigh* man kind is killing the earth /;
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reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 12:47 AM by Nucleardoom

Thank you for this post... I am working for a German company in Japan at the moment and one of my colleagues works for the radiation lab (in fact the only person ) and he is in charge of controlling foods etc. and there is no change in radiation. Stop the fearmongering. There is a lot of toxine which is in our food. 30km away from Fukushima, there is lower radiation then in Munich for example.
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Yet another shill crawls out from the woodwork. You are a LIAR! Why would you say this when it's completely untrue??? I trust Arnie Gundersen anyday over nuclear industry lackeys like yourself. Spread your disinfo elsewhere we know the truth and it's getting out.

The REAL truth

Last time I checked Tokyo was 200 or so miles from the plant. So, are we to trust a former nuclear engineer or a nobody from Germany? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you're more than likely EATING nuclear waste. If I were you I'd outsource my food supply somehow, because your being lied to, or you're lying to yourself and us.
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reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 01:07 AM by litterbaux
reply to post by kreese



Originally posted by kreese
What kind of people would suppress free energy


Nobody would at this point. Free energy is a myth. Nothing in this world comes easy. There is no device that can solve all of our problems cheaply.

The real problem is the globalization of our economies and how we can't sustain them.

If anyone had a free energy device, they would make billions in a day. You can't suppress the information like you could 50 years ago. It's all fakery, done for that one minute of fame, on youtube.

The money grabbers will ruin the Earth, you only get rich by stomping on all the other people.

The greed and careless disregard for other human lives has made me realize that we are the cancer of this Earth and maybe things are going as planned.

Ciao


reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 01:11 AM by jadedANDcynical
Here's the thing about Geiger counters:

Geiger counters are used to detect ionizing radiation, usually beta particles and gamma rays, but certain models can detect alpha particles.


Wiki

While Gamma and Beta are higher energy particles, it is the alpha emitters (isotopes of plutonium for example) that are really troubling. Most devices will not even detect these and some particular radionuclides can only be found through extensive lab testing.

In order to get an accurate measurement of how much radiation you are exposed to in any given area, you would need be able to examine minutely each and every square millimeter of exposed surface and countless cubic meters of air due to the random nature of the spread of the pollution.

Picture a stream of smoke off of the end of a cigarette and you have some idea of what we are dealing with here regarding the way these contaminants behave.

The aersolized particulates are sub-micron sized and are respirable (that is they would pass through the membranes in your lungs and enter your bloodstream) and depending on which particular isotope lodge in a different portion of your body.

Iodine seeks your thyroid gland, strontium is a bone seeker, and each of the other isotopes go to muscle or other organs. Luckily, the vast majority of the airborne releases peaked after the explosions of R3 & R4, but the waterborne release still continue and are exceedingly difficult to quantify.

If another big aftershock hits (and remember, there still has not been a M8+ sized quake which is still in the cards) and if the SFP (spent fuel pool) of R4 is spilled, then we are all in a much deeper pile of poo than we are presently in.

There is no way to avoid what is in the environment at this point, the best you can do is limit your exposure and hope for the best.


reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 01:14 AM by unknown known
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This is a real situation. Did you go to school to work on Nuclear Reactors? Your grammar seems below average of a university graduate. Just observations when taking what you say seriously.

And the "I know stuff but can't say anything" line, doesn't help anyone's credibility.


reply posted on 24-4-2012 @ 01:21 AM by litterbaux
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You realize any moron with a keyboard can make an ATS account right?

Now take into account that this is a very unique situation. You can use chernobyl as a reference point but you can't say its the same event.

We are on uncharted ground and anyone that chimes in with info needs to be criticized to the fullest degree.
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