Why are THEY blocking the sun in Washington state?, page 2


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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 09:56 AM by nitro67
reply to post by Mianeye



I thought I made it clear that I AM NOT SAYING THESE ARE "CHEMTRAILS" That would be silly to assume that there is chemicals in them, how could I possibly know that? I can't know that, so I am not saying that is what is going on here. All I am saying is that when I see this repeatedly and, yes look up other sites which show the same things, I wonder. Just asking for possibilities with this post. I understand that contrails can last longer in the sky due to atmospheric conditions, it is just the patterns and the way the sky looks and the sun looks that make me go "hmmmmmmmmm"


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 09:56 AM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by tracehd1





Anyways... They were going balls to the wall what I filmed. There was as much as 3 planes in the same sky at the same time making X-patterns and grids.


Well how about posting this video of all this Chemtrail spraying as you call it?

You do know that more than one plane flies in the sky at the same time.don't you?



reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 09:56 AM by 00nunya00
Originally posted by nitro67
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If this wasn't occurring like clockwork with the same effect occurring I would not think anything odd was up. I have noticed this occurring often.


You know why? Because planes are usually on a schedule, like buses. You will see those planes every morning doing the exact same thing, if they are not delayed and the jet stream pattern stays the same.

Grids and Xs happen when people need to get from Seattle to NY, but other people need to get from BC to Mexico, all at the same time. They have to pass each other sometimes.

Seriously. The majority of your pictures are cirrus clouds. Mother Earth is conspiring to bock the sun from you! Oh noes!


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:03 AM by Mianeye
reply to post by nitro67

I know, it wasn't so much you i was going for, it's more the general people who suggest it.

Sorry for putting it in your thread, but you did post the picture and asked the questions, so i just answerd generally.

But for the pictures, those tells a lot.
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:03 AM by Afterthought
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I thought I made it clear that I AM NOT SAYING THESE ARE "CHEMTRAILS" That would be silly to assume that there is chemicals in them, how could I possibly know that?


That's correct.
I believe we can safely call the trails in your photos artificial cirrus clouds. Manmade cirrus clouds are just one of the ways SRM is executed.


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:06 AM by nitro67
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I am wondering what kind of atmospheric conditions need to be in place for contrails to stay visible for over an hour an disperse in a grid? Just found this from nearby Oregon:
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:10 AM by Mianeye
reply to post by nitro67


Here is some of the answers to that question.

en.wikipedia.org...
Contrails ( /ˈkɒntreɪlz/; short for "condensation trails") or vapour trails are long thin artificial clouds that sometimes form behind aircraft. Their formation is most often triggered by the water vapour in the exhaust of aircraft engines, but can also be triggered by the changes in air pressure in wingtip vortices or in the air over the entire wing surface.[1] Like all clouds, contrails are made of water, in the form of a suspension of billions of liquid droplets or ice crystals. Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrail forms, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide
. Persistent contrails are thought to have a significant effect on global climate.[2]

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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:14 AM by nitro67
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Interesting, thanks. So even contrails are dangerous and potentially altering the environment....


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:18 AM by Mianeye
Originally posted by nitro67
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post by Mianeye



Interesting, thanks. So even contrails are dangerous and potentially altering the environment....
Yes, you are right about that, but so are allmost anything we do to make society run every day.

It's kind of silly, isn't it



reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:21 AM by nitro67
reply to post by Mianeye



Worse than silly, just plain stupid.....I am posting this vid of one of my heroes, I know it is a bit off topic but we are talking about nature here so Viktor Schauberger deserves to be heard:


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:22 AM by tsurfer2000h
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I am wondering what kind of atmospheric conditions need to be in place for contrails to stay visible for over an hour an disperse in a grid?


If you are attentive to contrail formation and duration, you will notice that they can rapidly dissipate or spread horizontally into an extensive thin cirrus layer. How long a contrail remains intact, depends on the humidity structure and winds of the upper troposphere. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for sometime. On the other hand, if the atmosphere is dry then as the contrail mixes with the environment it dissipates. Contrails are a concern in climate studies as increased jet aircraft traffic may result in an increase in cloud cover.


cimss.ssec.wisc.edu...

As for the video chaffe has nothing to do with contrails or the so called chemtrails. As far as the grid pattern goes that is planes flying in different directions and their contrails cross.Nothing nefarious happening there.


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:29 AM by nitro67
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When I mention the grid pattern I do not mean the crossing of separate trails. The grid pattern in within the trails themselves:


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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:35 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Afterthought



What would the point of solar radiation management be if it's not being carried out on a global scale?

The methods proposed using aircraft such as Stratospheric sulfur aerosols and Reflective aerosols are based around global events of the past like large comet strikes and volcanic eruptions where the dust clouds engulfed the entire planet.

What you think is going on is likened to draining a lake with a kitchen sponge.


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:42 AM by tracehd1
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You know what....had you read the post in its entirety then your questions would have been answered...

Had you watched the video your question would have been answered...

Un- like you.... I read... I study... I find facts. I re- searched...

To open your mouth when ihe questions been asked and answered makes you a troll. Your not studying the facts, what people say or the proof they have. You want to jump from post to post inserting your foot to mouth...go right ahead...but I can't take you serious when the answers been provided.


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 10:48 AM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by nitro67





When I mention the grid pattern I do not mean the crossing of separate trails. The grid pattern in within the trails themselves:


What you are seeing is probably what they call a mackerel sky...



Notice how it looks like a crossing pattern in the clouds when in fact it is just the way a mackerel sky cloud forms.

And here is what a mackerel sky is...

A mackerel sky or buttermilk sky is an indicator of moisture and instability at intermediate (altocumulus) or high (cirrocumulus) levels. The phrase 'mackerel sky' came from the fact that it looks similar to the markings of an adult king mackerel and this phrase is generally only used if a significant proportion of the sky is covered in altocumulus or cirrocumulus. This usually produces perspective effects as the clouds become smaller towards the horizon. Mackerel skies are spoken of in the popular bywords, "Mackerel in the sky, three days dry," "Mackerel sky, mackerel sky. Never long wet and never long dry," and the nautical weather rhyme, "Mare's tails and mackerel scales / Make tall ships carry low sails." In the winter they are often said to precede snowstorms and flurries. Mackerel skies have therefore become synonymous with bad weather approaching. However while altocumulus does rarely form instead of the more usual altostratus ahead of a frontal system, it is more likely that a so-called mackerel sky signifies the break up of an altostratus layer and leads to brighter conditions, and so the forecasting value of mackerel skies often depend on whether it was cloudy or clear prior to their appearance. However even if it was clear prior to their appearance, it does not always mean rain is approaching as altocumulus is often associated with a weak frontal system where the usual altostratus has become broken, and in this case there is a chance the weather may remain dry, although it is more likely that there will be light drizzle from stratus clouds.


en.wikipedia.org...

Just a guess,but that is what your pics look like are happening.
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