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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
One must first find one Self alone, before knowing oneself in and as all things.
Alone is all one.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Manula
You are the seer of this movie called life. It is happening now presently, colors, patterns, sound, sensation, thought arising. Can you stop it? Is it not just happening.... and no one is actually doing it?
Nothing needs to be done because it is all being done.
And you get to watch.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ottobot
It is not possible to not participate in life. I am life. Without me what is life?
Life is happening and this character that i see is part of the movie.
Most people are lost believing themselves to be the character, they are lost in the drama.
I see all aspects of the movie.
Originally posted by ottobot
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ottobot
It is not possible to not participate in life. I am life. Without me what is life?
Life is happening and this character that i see is part of the movie.
Most people are lost believing themselves to be the character, they are lost in the drama.
I see all aspects of the movie.
No, you don't.
You see the aspects of the movie in your own mind, because that is what you can see and what you can safely say is true.
You do not see that aspects of the movie which happen to be the thoughts of the person walking toward you who is thinking that they will pull out a gun and rob you at gunpoint at the exact moment you pass.
But, the way you tell it, there's no point in being surprised at the robbery. There's no point in trying to stop the person from shooting you. There's no point in reaching to hand him/her the wallet. To watch, one will just stand impotently by and allow whatever external events happen - regardless of whether they are positive or negative.
This is apathy.
Originally posted by ottobot
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Manula
You are the seer of this movie called life. It is happening now presently, colors, patterns, sound, sensation, thought arising. Can you stop it? Is it not just happening.... and no one is actually doing it?
Nothing needs to be done because it is all being done.
And you get to watch.
That is an interesting perspective.
But, why not participate?
Why just be a surveyor and powerless in all things?
Why watch life pass you by?
You cannot experience anything without being immersed in it. Watching is not experiencing. It is watching as things play out.
There are a few choices:
1) Stop everything by ending one's life.
2) Dwell on past and potential future events; be lost in worries.
3) Watch everything by withdrawing from one's external life; everything is neutral.
4) Deal with situations that arise as they arise; live in and appreciate the present.
I prefer #4. But, that's because I existed as a #3 for nearly a decade. And, when I could no longer maintain that illusion, everything crashed. Neutrality was a lie because I had tried to force and mold my life, my existence, into something that seemed like it would be safe.
Yes, it was safe. But, it was false.
Sometimes, life is not safe. One cannot always watch because once in awhile your eyes get poked out by someone or something you did not see because you were looking the other way.
Originally posted by Manula
reply to post by Itisnowagain
I accept that my soul has to survive, the creator wants to live this experience through me.
I am the creator (a part of it) living this experience (my life).
I can create a lot.
This texts that i am writing here on ATS, they are my creation, i wanted to do them, i don't just watch, i created them, so the creator made them through me, he lives through all of us.
We all are hime and he wants to do a lot of stuff, because he is self-updating himself, he is also changing, learning, evolving, creation is evolving, changing, and so is the creator.