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Originally posted by novastrike81
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Still waiting for the answer to the question I asked....
The only way to become God's child is to believe that he sent himself as an offering to himself to atone for the sin of a woman for eating a fruit that he said not to eat?
Originally posted by novastrike81
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Explain how it's a strawman. If you believe Jesus is God (which I know you do NuT), then yes, he sent himself down to Earth as a human to sacrifice himself to himself to atone for everyone's sins because of the decision that Eve made to eat the fruit she was forbidden from eating.
Not a strawman if it's true. The strawman version is referring to him as a zombie, which I did not. It's not a hasty generalization either because I'm not jumping to conclusions based on insufficient evidence. The evidence is from the Bible itself.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
The Father sent the Son.
There was no ransom paid.
He was slain before the foundation of the world. (Don't ask for the Physics behind that)
What you said was a terrible generalization and a straw man. Look at my profile, for a statement of faith, you can copy/paste that here and critique the actual gospel if you wish to.
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
you have to ask the band about that... I am just a listener of the tuneage.
I want to be an exorcist
What the hell are you talking about? Can't you just give a simple yes or no to the question I asked instead of being "mysterious".
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
I printed out your text with this picture of Jesus and put it on my refrigerator as soon as I read it this morning. That God spoke to your heart and had you post it for his bride is awesome. What a beautiful gift from both of you!
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
reply to post by reeferman
I am just reading Romans 11:7 presently, ...ask the band
I seen in movie Jesus said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"
now that was a cool dude!
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
you have to ask the band about that... I am just a listener of the tuneage.
I want to be an exorcist
What the hell are you talking about? Can't you just give a simple yes or no to the question I asked instead of being "mysterious".
I don't know
you have to ask those who know how to sing with harmony... that's why I am here too.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You're speaking to a dead man. Pray for him to have life, to meet THE Life, to seek Him while He can be found.
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
The Father sent the Son.
Right, God sent himself down to Earth as Jesus in human form.
There was no ransom paid.
His life/blood was the ransom paid for mankind's sins.
He was slain before the foundation of the world. (Don't ask for the Physics behind that)
Not sure I want to know.
What you said was a terrible generalization and a straw man. Look at my profile, for a statement of faith, you can copy/paste that here and critique the actual gospel if you wish to.
No, I just showed you how it's not.
I know this will go around in circles as it tends to do with Christians,
but it's really a straight forward concept. I'll probably get to your statement of faith later if it becomes relevant.
Teresa of Avila (1515–1582)
Christ Has No Body
Christ has no body but yours,
No hands, no feet on earth but yours,
Yours are the eyes with which he looks
Compassion on this world,
Yours are the feet with which he walks to do good,
Yours are the hands, with which he blesses all the world.
Yours are the hands, yours are the feet,
Yours are the eyes, you are his body.
Christ has no body now but yours,
No hands, no feet on earth but yours,
Yours are the eyes with which he looks
compassion on this world.
Christ has no body now on earth but yours.
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You're speaking to a dead man. Pray for him to have life, to meet THE Life, to seek Him while He can be found.
That doesn't sound very loving. Shame on you, Jesus wouldn't be proud of that comment! And I'm pretty sure I'm alive; I didn't realize I was missing...
And which link is the statement of faith by chance?
No attempt at any type of self-glorification, just an awareness of Christ moving within us.
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You're speaking to a dead man. Pray for him to have life, to meet THE Life, to seek Him while He can be found.
That doesn't sound very loving. Shame on you, Jesus wouldn't be proud of that comment!
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
Originally posted by novastrike81
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You're speaking to a dead man. Pray for him to have life, to meet THE Life, to seek Him while He can be found.
That doesn't sound very loving. Shame on you, Jesus wouldn't be proud of that comment!
I understand what NT is meaning... he was speaking to me upsidedownish.
and I have not read past your post presently.
What is it that you are objecting to exactly, the "payment" part? An exchange is built into the term translated as "ransom" so to add "payment" would be redundant. Are you claiming that the lack of the word, payment, means there wasn't any?
There was no ransom paid. He was slain before the foundation of the world.
Not sure what your point is by saying this. Are you trying to say the cross is meaningless?
He was slain before the foundation of the world.
A few very general statements, nothing like a "gospel".
Look at my profile, for a statement of faith, you can copy/paste that here and critique the actual gospel if you wish to.
Moses heard God many times, should he have been on meds?