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If I wanted America to Fail

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posted on Apr, 23 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Yesh, what a hot mess. I will respond to the videos point even though I'm better off just farting in the wind as most of you have your minds made up anyway.

Regarding "Global Cooling", one article in Time magazine in the 70's does not make a trend. From NASA (yes, i know you don't believe those evil liberals)

All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880. Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years. Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase


If Solar output was the cause of global warming then temperatures should have decreased in 2007-2009. And don't start this anecdotal "it snowed lots here" crap. We are talking about a world wide average, not what it was in your town.

climate.nasa.gov...
None of you will read that, and if you do you will just say it's all lies by evil liberal Nasa. Agian, why the hell do I bother.

As for energy, the guy is an idiot. Energy prices have gone up because Oil is harder and harder to get. All cheap oil is pretty much been pumped. Almost all of the major oil producing countries in the world are in decline. The only reason the U.S. is experiencing increases in Oil Production is because of Non-conventional crude (I.. Oil Shale) and Biofuels such as Ethanol. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is going to become number one in oil is sorely mistaken.
www.theoildrum.com...
If they did no one in this country would be able to afford it. Oil Shale is an expensive, water consuming process. With a third of the country locked in persistent drought, I have a hard time believing most people in states with water are going to be keen on giving it up for Oil Shale (considering they will have to pay more for water). Not to mention the EROI of that particular energy source is pathetic. You will pay 5 to 6 dollars a gallon for it. The production declines rapidly as well in these fields. The only reason Oil Shale is even viable is because oil is so expensive. This should clue you into the reality that oil is never going to be cheap again.

Now someone might bring ANWAR, if there is oil there, it's only about 6 months worth of it (less if you go by world wide demand). There are no controls to make sure it's only sold here, so it would do you no good. It will simply be shipped off to a country where you can get more money for it. Furthermore, you have to sink pipeline in a tundra melting due to global warming.

And now let's talk about offshore drilling. Companies have to move further and further out. Is it regulations? Maybe it's part of it, but most of the big oil finds are going further out to sea. It cost upwards of 100 million dollars to build these rigs and they get more expensive as you go further out because you have to drill deeper. Do you think that cost isn't going to be passed on to?

The simple fact is, Oil is a finite resource. We need to know how much there is and how long it's going to last. That will never happen. No one will read this and all responses will be "You are an evil socialist liberal"

ATS: Vote GOP.




posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Bump Bump!

How about it.

As I have been saying for over a year now....

If you wanted to destory/ruin America, what would you differently than what Obama is doing?



Election 2012.... Like no other...



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by anon72
Bump Bump!

How about it.

As I have been saying for over a year now....

If you wanted to destory/ruin America, what would you differently than what Obama is doing?



Election 2012.... Like no other...


I would do a little bit more !

Obama and the Liberal Left has not done a good enough job of eradicating the American conservatives.

They assumed that they all dried up and went away after the 2008 elections.

Then they called the 2010 elections an "anomaly" and a "fluke".

Then they called the 2012 elections a total disaster


Landslide 2012 -- It's time to wake up from the dream.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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Obama had an appointee picked to Crush the oil companies and gas companies.
His a video of Obamas Henchman hs has in Power to Destroy the Oil and Gas Companies for not bending to the Saviors Wishes and Stick It To Americas and get you to buy a Government Motors Car,,,,,,,

www.youtube.com...

EPA Official: We’re “Crucifying” Oil And Gas Companies


EPA Official on Non-Compliant Companies: ‘Hit Them as Hard as You Can’ & ‘Make Examples Out of Them,’ Cites Crucifixion


The EPA’s agenda, Inhofe said, is to “incite fear” in the public with unsubstantiated claims and “intimidate” oil and gas companies with threats of unjustified fines and penalties – then, quietly backtrack once the public’s perception has been jaded against oil and natural gas.

cnsnews.com...
edit on 25-4-2012 by guohua because: spelling



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
The above post is left wing progranda because all they can do is going around saying

Right wing propaganda in every thread


The Right Wing purposely mismanages government so that it will give them an
easier chance to eliminate social programs and privatize things as a response
to the "Big Government" AKA their own policies.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:16 PM
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Cloward-Piven Strategy.

The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

www.americanthinker.com...

There are people in power, right now, who want to see the end, the downfall of America.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Originally posted by neo96
The above post is left wing progranda because all they can do is going around saying

Right wing propaganda in every thread


The Right Wing purposely mismanages government so that it will give them an
easier chance to eliminate social programs and privatize things as a response
to the "Big Government" AKA their own policies.


Naww, that's all backwards !!

It's the ultra radical fanatical liberal marxist fascist agenda that does all that !!

The RW cleans up the mess and sets the stage for the next looting session.

As beezzer points out, the Cloward/Piven Strategy is the game plan.

Only true conservatism will beat it. Not much else.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Yes a person taking care of themselves is evil.

Yes a person with a Private Retirement account that will be worth millions by the time retire or get sick or hurt or get fired and not have to wait 50 years to collect and collect between 5-10 years if they live long enough or have to worry about liberal big government that makes healthcare coverage cost in the millions.


Blah.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Originally posted by neo96
The above post is left wing progranda because all they can do is going around saying

Right wing propaganda in every thread


The Right Wing purposely mismanages government so that it will give them an
easier chance to eliminate social programs and privatize things as a response
to the "Big Government" AKA their own policies.


Naww, that's all backwards !!

It's the ultra radical fanatical liberal marxist fascist agenda that does all that !!

The RW cleans up the mess and sets the stage for the next looting session.

As beezzer points out, the Cloward/Piven Strategy is the game plan.

Only true conservatism will beat it. Not much else.



No, I think I am dead on correct -

It's Karl Roves strategy to blame your opponents for using the strategy you are actually
using yourself.

The economic collapse and all this bull has not been good for Left Wing policies, look
around you and there is your proof. All these events have been used to attack unions,
entitlements and other left wing staples. The right benefits when government fails
because it sets them up to cut the things they hate AND implement pro rich policies.

You can be right wing all you want, but at least use your brain a examine the truth
of the matter.

Left wing does not benefit from poor government performance, the right does.
edit on 25-4-2012 by braindeadconservatives because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
 


Yes a person taking care of themselves is evil.

Yes a person with a Private Retirement account that will be worth millions by the time retire or get sick or hurt or get fired and not have to wait 50 years to collect and collect between 5-10 years if they live long enough or have to worry about liberal big government that makes healthcare coverage cost in the millions.


Blah.


did I say that???

You said that, last I checked people are free to invest all they want... Sorry to say Etrade
doesn't help you buy food or pay the rent if you get in a flaming car crash.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


Left wing does not benefit from poor government performance, the right does.


You are correct. When the left is in charge of the government and performs poorly, people vote them out and elect those on the right.
Thus benefitting.

QED



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by guohua
Obama had an appointee picked to Crush the oil companies and gas companies.
His a video of Obamas Henchman hs has in Power to Destroy the Oil and Gas Companies for not bending to the Saviors Wishes and Stick It To Americas and get you to buy a Government Motors Car,,,,,,,


Poor gas and oil companies
Oh I'm crying - those poor babies are only making the
largest profits in the history of mankind - I'm sooooooooo sad


You guys are so backwards and pathetic, enjoy your $5.00 gas



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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If I wanted to destroy America I would convince all the stupid people that they actually know how to run things better than the smart people- oops, too late.

Oh, and advocate getting rid of everything in the country that benefits regular people as the GOP is doing.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


Left wing does not benefit from poor government performance, the right does.


You are correct. When the left is in charge of the government and performs poorly, people vote them out and elect those on the right.
Thus benefitting.

QED


And the right manufactures poor performance so they can cut the programs they
hate by , not the left - The right then can use what they manufacture from the inside as an excuse to
cut left wing policies.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


You guys are so backwards and pathetic, enjoy your $5.00 gas


Did someone bring up 5?









posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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So what really happened in 2006? Nancy Pelosi met with George Bush. A meeting everybody wished they were a fly on the wall. Well what happened? No one said any thing it was top secret. Well Lets figure it out then. Follow the money. Nacy's husband had 5 million dollars of a stock called apple computers. Shortly after that meeting Steve Jobs got a phone call from one of his biggest investor. Scrap all your plans we have a new model for you to use. Steve Jobs becomes a miracle man with great in sight into how computers and cell phones can be revolutionised and turn his 100 dollar a share company into the 610 dollar a share company it is now. Seems there was a fly on the wall and it wispers to Steve Jobs who scraps everything that Apple computers inc was working on even its name became apple inc and created apple Ipads ipods and so on. He gets the ok from the government to scrap DRM protection on his devices which everybody else was still forced to use. He gets the head of the US propaganda machine board of directors to even write his biography. Walter Isaacson even quit working at that US propaganda board to defend Steve Jobs legacy. Well atleast the one he created. You even had the US government hacking and exploit machine avoid hacking Apple products. And any bad press was quickly squashed by the government ran propaganda machine we call MSM and backed by the US propaganda machine the BBG which was ran by Isaacson. So Nacy got her payment for droping the persuit of torture and investigations of torture through her pick of a stock in a manipulated economy. Steve Jobs success came from Pelosi selling out. And its the same process used to this day. Just like Facebook becoming what it is through the help of the government making it what it is through In-Q-Tel a CIA ran investment company who told him what to do. Steve Jobs was told what to do and the rest was taken care of.

So in 2006 nothing changed. It all still goes on the same way it allways has.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


You guys are so backwards and pathetic, enjoy your $5.00 gas


Did someone bring up 5?








That is funny


But hey if you found out that right wingers purposely mismanaged the economy
so they could eliminate things they do not like, would you be mad, as an American?



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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"Never let a good crisis go to waste"



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Apparently not the left blocks any attempt at privatization that social program that fabulous social security retirement that on the average pays $1000 and less a month.

That the left steals from and manages piss poorly denying people everyday and then picks and choose who gets it and then not good enough never keeps up with inflation

And then when you die they keep that.

The way big government left wing run social programs make corporations look like saints.

guess the left prefers Government masters.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


But hey if you found out that right wingers purposely mismanaged the economy
so they could eliminate things they do not like, would you be mad, as an American?




I am mad that the Left are mismanaging this country. Particularly,Obama.

I am for smaller Government,so EVERY Government official,that doesn't do his Job,gets my wrath.Unfortunately,for you,the left is currently running America,into the ground.



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