Help me understand religion, because quite frankly it just seems silly to me now...., page 1


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Topic started on 22-4-2012 @ 06:03 PM by TedHodgson
Back in junior/primary school i used to Play with Pokemon card's (Ironically this was a church of England school) I used to watch as the playground was filled with crazed kids swapping and battling to gain some sort of popularity in this ongoing game which revolved around pictures and writing printed on paper and card, To those primary school kids this was A Religion. However it was also a trend that passed, Just as religion has done for centuries.

If i made up a perfect image of a father/God like figure in my mind today and made him my deity then wrote a book about him and became so engrossed in my belief that the said figure could be my one salvation from eternal damnation people would look at me funny, they would laugh and tell me I'm a nut-job but in reality how is this any different from belief in any other established religion?
If my belief was so strong in this figure i had just made up in my mind one day was so strong that id be willing to do practically anything in his name how would that be any different to any other established religion?

Nobody's idea of God is the same, God is an entirely unique perspective based on your own individual personality, What you really believe in is yourself.
"God" is everything good in you, a lighthouse in the darkness and a light to guide you.
People have many different names for this Light and some who live in darkness don't see it all.
It just seems logical to me that people attach their own belief in themselves to some form of deity in order to reach for something already located within themselves.
However belief can be misguided, If belief is given a set of rules those rules can be bent depending on the individual even distorted to justify ones actions, This is when people get hurt...

Sorry all i was just putting down some of my thoughts on the subject, However you shouldn't take any of ramblings literally because they and my mind are open to elaboration, Just thought it would be nice to bounce some of my thoughts off ATS

Yours Always

Ted
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reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:18 PM by IEtherianSoul9
reply to post by TedHodgson



This is how I see it.

If you travel back 5,000-3,000 years ago, our ancestors' knowledge of the natural world around them would have been very rudimentary to say the least. Coupled with environmental interactions and cultural diffusion, there's an array of different possibilities for which a "God-factor" can arise. When a devastating earthquake shatters a society, what do you think they are going to attribute it to? Definitely not shifting plates, because they had no knowledge of that. Humans are creative and this creativity can sometimes lead us to believing it as a reality. So they imposed a supernatural cause to a simple and explainable, although not at their time, occurrence.

Religion definitely does have an evolution and it's become an intrinsic property of humans, that I don't see us divorcing any time soon.
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reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:33 PM by TedHodgson
reply to post by Iason321



Careful now, Don't give atheists fuel for the fire....



reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:36 PM by TedHodgson
reply to post by IEtherianSoul9



What a great perspective as well! I came to a similar conclusion myself as well however if i put down all my thoughts on the Subject of the formation of religion in one thread id have a pretty big thread of mixed nonsense to say they least


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:46 PM by TheCelestialHuman
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I agree, religion is our first attempt at explaining things.. and because it is our first, it is our worst. we now have science to explain the things we once deemed supernatural.. no need to believe in creation when we now know we are products of evolution.


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:48 PM by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by IEtherianSoul9
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post by TedHodgson



This is how I see it.

If you travel back 5,000-3,000 years ago, our ancestors' knowledge of the natural world around them would have been very rudimentary to say the least. Coupled with environmental interactions and cultural diffusion, there's an array of different possibilities for which a "God-factor" can arise. When a devastating earthquake shatters a society, what do you think they are going to attribute it to? Definitely not shifting plates, because they had no knowledge of that. Humans are creative and this creativity can sometimes lead us to believing it as a reality. So they imposed a supernatural cause to a simple and explainable, although not at their time, occurrence.

Religion definitely does have an evolution and it's become an intrinsic property of humans, that I don't see us divorcing any time soon.
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Very well put, very concisely.

You have arrived at enlightenment, been raised to the living in a vertical world.


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 06:59 PM by NOTurTypical
reply to post by TedHodgson



Religion is silly, Jesus isn't religion:




Jesus VS Religion



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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 12:19 PM by Iason321
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You do realize calling Jesus earth mother a bitch is incredibly disrespectful to Yeshua right?

Catholics don't worship ishtar and they don't worship mary (not most of them anyways)

They ask Mary for her prayers and intercession,

Making negative or generalizing judgmental statements against Catholics (who number 1+ billion on our planet) is no way to spread the Gospel of Yeshua


reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 12:58 PM by jmdewey60
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. . . how would that be any different to any other established religion?

Because it would be your personal belief.
A religion is a group of people having the same personal belief.
I think you have a deeper question that comes up after this quoted one above in my post.
God, as in who or what that is? God is something outside of us, though one activity of God may be coming inside you to allow you to do things you may not have been inclined to do so much before.
I have had personal experiences with God, or what I assume to be God, based on my understanding of what God would be like, from my religious upbringing which was Christian, which also informs me that it wasn't exactly God Himself, but more likely ordinary angels who get the OK to intervene for whatever reason. I am one example, but if you had a whole community who had God-encounter experiences, and took them all to be results of one particular God, then you have the basis for a religion.
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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 02:48 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Iason321
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post by lonewolf19792000



You do realize calling Jesus earth mother a bitch is incredibly disrespectful to Yeshua right?


He's not, he is calling Ashteroh/Ishtar/Isis/Semiramis one. Catholics just call her by a Christian name to maintain their Mystery Religion of a father-like figure, a son-like figure, and a queen of heaven-like figure.

Catholics don't worship ishtar and they don't worship mary (not most of them anyways)


I've seen countless idols made in her image. Catholics offer prayers to her. Christians don't even offer prayers to angels. Praying to any human who is passed on is called "necromancy".

They ask Mary for her prayers and intercession,


Mary is a dead human being, that's necromancy. There is only one intercessor between God and us, His Son Jesus Christ.

Making negative or generalizing judgmental statements against Catholics (who number 1+ billion on our planet) is no way to spread the Gospel of Yeshua


Jesus has VERY naughty words to say about the whore that rides the beast in the last book of the Bible. Very naughty words. Says she is drunk with the blood of the saints. 18+ million dead saints and counting....
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