Kairos Palestine Document Full Text Bethlehem, December 11, 2009
2.2.2 Our Lord Jesus Christ came, proclaiming that the Kingdom of God was near. He provoked a revolution in the life and faith of all humanity. He came with “a new teaching” (Mk 1:27), casting a new light on the Old Testament, on the themes that relate to our Christian faith and our daily lives, themes such as the promises, the election, the people of God and the land. We believe that the Word of God is a living Word, casting a particular light on each period of history, manifesting to Christian believers what God is saying to us here and now. For this reason, it is unacceptable to transform the Word of God into letters of stone that pervert the love of God and His providence in the life of both peoples and individuals. This is precisely the error in fundamentalist Biblical interpretation that brings us death and destruction when the word of God is petrified and transmitted from generation to generation as a dead letter. This dead letter is used as a weapon in our present history in order to deprive us of our rights in our own land. Our land has a universal mission.
LEKKJ is striving to advance and enhance Jewish-Christian dialogue, and has a well documented record of combating anti-Judaism anti-Semitism for many decades. We are therefore both saddened and perturbed to find anti-Jewish patterns of thought, such as the presentation of “the new teaching of Jesus” in contrast to “the dead letter in stone“ „that is used as a weapon in our present history in order to deprive us of our rights in our own land.“ (2.2.2) This contrast-pattern is an expression of anti-Jewish language.
Adopted at its meeting in Budapest June, 10-13, 2010
The newest staff member at the meeting was Sandy Rios, who was hired a couple of days earlier as vice president for programming. Rios, a former talk-show host in Chicago, had come from Washington, where she served as president of Concerned Women for America, a conservative family-issues group....
Throughout this conversation, Rios was clearly eager to join in. And as soon as there was a pause in the discussion, she did. "You know," she said, "the truth is, Christians do want to convert Jews."
Eckstein and Mamo exchanged glances. "Not by some bait-and-switch trick," she said. "But we believe it's part of God's plan." Eckstein winced the way he had when Pastor Munsey called him a born-again Christian.
"Anyway," Rios said, "we love Jews, notwithstanding their rudeness and hatred for us."
Three days later, Eckstein called me in New York. Rios had been fired, but her gaffe, and the impression it made, was still on his mind. "It's really my fault," he said. "Hiring staff is a problem. Truthfully, it's extremely hard to find people who understand exactly what we're doing here."
The Rabbi Who Loved Evangelicals (and Vice Versa)
founded in 1983 to promote understanding and cooperation between Jews and Christians and to build broad support for Israel and other shared concerns.... We have helped hundreds of thousands of Jews escape poverty and anti-Semitism and return to their biblical homeland, funded humanitarian assistance that has touched the lives of millions of Jews in Israel and around the world, provided life-giving aid to Israel’s victims of war and terror, and much more.
as we are a grant-making group with a focus on philanthropy.” Among the organizations that receive funding from the IFCJ are the Jewish Agency[for Jewish immigration and settlement], Nefesh B'Nefesh[another immigration and settlement], ORT, Chabad-Lubavitch and the Israel Defense Forces. At the recent Friends of the Israel Defense Forces gala dinner in Manhattan, Rabbi Eckstein outdid his peers, donating $9.25 million in support of the multi-faceted programs aimed at helping Israeli soldiers.
All this hyperactivity is financed by the contributions of evangelical Christians. In the last eight years alone, an estimated 400,000 born-again donors have sent Eckstein about a quarter of a billion dollars for Jewish causes of his personal choosing.
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene': 1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a). 2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a). 3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
What is the true key to salvation? Those who return to the Law (the Seven Commandments for the Children of Noah, according to the eternal covenant made with Noah in Genesis 9) and who assist the Jewish people (Isaiah 60, 61, 66) will be saved and will participate in the miracles and revelations, including worshipping in the Third Temple, under the kingship of the Messiah. As described in many places, including Jeremiah 16:19-21 and Zechariah 8:20-23, all the old gentile religions of the world will disappear, and their followers will turn to the Jews for spiritual leadership. Until then, Christians are spiritually blinded, and cannot yet understand G-d's wisdom in the Bible.
as a disinterested observer that a lot of money has been flowing into Christianity from pro-Zionist sources. Particularly people like John Haggee, who can't open his mouth without mentioning the Jews or Israel or how speshul and chosen they are. It's obviously a propaganda campaign designed to assist Israel through the creation of so-called "Christian Zionism." How long before Christians stop talking about Christ and start worshiping the "chosen ones" instead?
We believe that the Jewish people have a right to live in their ancient land of Israel, and that the modern State of Israel is the fulfillment of this historic right.
Ours is the last generation of the era of sin and evil and the first of the Messianic Era. Indeed, for the first time in history, there is a growing consensus of leading rabbis willing to name the man most suited to be the Messiah, and they are agreeing that he is the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The Rebbe is the spiritual leader of our generation, having boldly stirred up controversy over vital issues in which other leaders have remained tragically silent or have even caved in to the growing forces of darkness. He has upheld the Law perfectly and has worked mightily to strengthen the observance of the Law by Jews, as well as the observance of the Noachide Law by gentiles. Through his teaching of chasidus (Jewish mystical teachings, preserved from Moses and Mount Sinai), he has taught the world that G-d is One, the Infinite Who renews creation at every moment. The Rebbe is a direct descendant of King David and has received a true prophecy from G-d that we who are alive in this generation shall be the first in history to see the coming of the true messiah. Many Jews are eagerly anticipating the Rebbe's resurrection from the grave, ready to re-establish the Sanhedrin and anoint the king.
Chabad-Lubavitch is a Chasidic movement in Orthodox Judaism. One of the world's larger and best-known Chasidic movements, its official headquarters is in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn, New York. The organization is believed to be the largest Jewish organization in the world today.
Eckstein, sitting nearby, visibly blanched. For decades, Orthodox critics have accused him of being a closet Christian. He told me that a few years ago four senior rabbis convened a court in New York to try him for the crime of ''teaching Torah to gentiles.'' He was acquitted in a split decision, but he recalls it as one of the most humiliating moments of his life.
Originally posted by Lone12
the rabbithole is *so* much more deep
there has been doctered so much with original scripture, that is, sorcery within the words, ( = the adding of wrong vowels, on purpose) which is pure quabbalism, that THAT is a main reason that 'scripture remains dead '.
In this light, ofcóurse those dont want that 'scripture changes '. It may come alive - when believers would discover there s tampered with it !
' yah '? egyptian moongod
' shu ' ? egyptian pastordeity, with the same attributes
also see eiue research com
It doesn't matter if jews today spit on the face of Jesus and call him a "false prophet" or call his mother a "harlot"...christians will still support the jews.
It doesn't matter if muslims punctuate every mention of Jesus and Mary with "Peace be upon them", Christians will see muslims as anti-christian.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
It's because Jews seem to know who they are. Most Christians still follow the Jesus the disciples followed that called themselves servants, when they should be following the risen Christ who calls his followers brothers.
Is it any wonder Christians are confused when Jews are not when they do not even know who they are.
The lost Hebrew tribe of Bnei Menashe had been discovered -- after two and a half millennia -- in northeastern India. Its authenticity had been certified by the Sephardic chief rabbi of Israel. The tribe -- 6,000 strong -- wanted to "return" to the Holy Land. Taking them and getting them settled would run about $8 million, and Eckstein had already informed the government of Israel that he would pick up the tab. ...
Transporting 6,000 lost Jews from India to Israel is Indiana Jones stuff, but it is also, inescapably, a political act. Israeli political parties will tussle over patronage of this new voting bloc. Right-wingers will fight to get it housed in the West Bank; left-wingers will try to prevent that. And the Palestinians will condemn the whole exercise as a Zionist trick to upset the demographic balance. If a rabbi can turn 6,000 Indians into biblical Jews and take them to Israel, what's to stop him from finding 600,000 somewhere else?
By ZEV CHAFETS
The only people who can bring peace about are the Palestinians, because Palestine, against all odds and in spite of the endless suffering, humiliation and oppression, is still an ethically-driven ecumenical society.
As far as Jews are concerned, a few questions remain. Can the Jewish identity discourse be liberated from its self-imposed ideological and spiritual tyranny? Can Jewish politics drift away from supremacy? Can Jews save themselves? My answer is simple: for Jewish ideology to universalise itself and for Jews to move on and emancipate themselves, a vigorous and honest process of self-reflection must take place. Whether Jews can engage in such a critical endeavour is an open question. I don’t know the answer, I guess that some can, others can’t. I would hope, though, that this book may offer a fairly good start.
Atzmon, Gilad (2011-09-30). The Wandering Who: A Study of Jewish Identity Politics (Kindle Locations 2667-2673). NBN_Mobi_Kindle. Kindle Edition.
Allies for Armageddon: The Rise of Christian Zionism, Victoria Clark
Publication Date: November 28, 2007
Guided by a literal reading of the prophetic sections of the Bible, Christian Zionists are convinced that the world is hurtling toward a final Battle of Armageddon. They believe that war in the Middle East is God’s will for the region. In this timely book, Victoria Clark first explores the 400-year history of this powerful political ideology, laying to rest the idea that Christian Zionism is a passing craze or the province of a lunatic fringe. Then Clark surveys the contemporary Christian Zionist scene in Israel and in the United States, where the influence of the religious fundamentalists has never been greater.
... She finds that the view through the Christian Zionist lens is dangerously simple: President Bush’s War on Terror is a mythic battle between good and evil, and Syria and Iran represent the powers of darkness. Such views are far from rare—an estimated fifteen to twenty million Americans share them. Almost one in three Americans believes Israel was given to the Jews by God as a prelude to the Battle of Armageddon and Jesus’ Second Coming. Clark concludes with an assessment of Christian Zionists’ impact on American foreign policy in the Middle East and on America’s relationships with European allies since the attacks of 9/11.
And these people who really believe this are more likely to vote, so in the polls that count, they are probably more like 50%.
Almost one in three Americans believes Israel was given to the Jews by God as a prelude to the Battle of Armageddon and Jesus’ Second Coming.
This same unlimited resource that allowed the creation of this "state" also was able to buy a religion. It was focused on ecumenicalism, which means acceptability across denominational boundaries. This is in its infancy stages, in the later half of the nineteenth century, where there were series of conferences held in the US, things, by the way, which would have cost an enormous amount of wealth. Money, I would have to suspect, was behind Oxford Press first printing the Scofield Study Bibles, and another trick, I am guessing, is how it was the second edition which had all the Reference Notes which brought the results of the conferences into all the churches, and the homes of Christians, which is this philosophy of how there has to be a restored Israel as a political body in Palestine before people can be raptured.
It is believed that John Nelson Darby left the Church of Ireland around 1831. He participated in the 1831–33 Powerscourt Conference, an annual meeting of Bible students organized by his friend, the wealthy widow Lady Powerscourt (Theodosia Wingfield Powerscourt). At the conference Darby publicly described his ecclesiological and eschatological views, including the pretribulation rapture.
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The beliefs he disseminated then are still being propagated (in various forms) at such places as Dallas Theological Seminary and Bob Jones University and by authors and preachers such as Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye.
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As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Some claim that this book was the origin of the idea of the "rapture." Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism,
John Darby (evangelist)
Antisemitism and the New Testament
A. Roy Eckardt, a pioneer in the field of Jewish-Christian relations, asserted that the foundation of antisemitism and responsibility for the Holocaust lies ultimately in the New Testament. Eckardt insisted that Christian repentance must include a reexamination of basic theological attitudes toward Jews and the New Testament in order to deal effectively with antisemitism.
The general message that scholars such as Eckardt are trying to convey is that, using the New Testament as its authoritative source, the Church has stereotyped the Jewish people as an icon of unredeemed humanity;[Need quotation to verify] they became an image of a blind, stubborn, carnal, and perverse people. According to this view, this dehumanization is the vehicle that formed the psychological prerequisite to the atrocities that followed.[Need quotation to verify]
 In Memoriam: Professor A. Roy Eckardt Holocaust and Genocide Studies 1998 12(3):519
 Eckardt, A. Roy. Elder and Younger Brothers: the encounter of Jews and Christian, 1967.
 Eckardt, A. Roy. Your People, My People: the meeting of Jews and Christians, 1974.
However, Mrs. White does enunciate an overriding principle: "Christ recognized no distinction of nationality or rank or creed.... Christ came to break down every wall of partition: He came to show that His gift of mercy and love is as unconfined as the air, the light, or the showers of rain that refresh the earth."2
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The one non-Christian religion Ellen G. White actually deals with is Judaism. She says that many Jews are to be won to Christ. Perhaps she was referring to latent anti-Semitism when she wrote that Adventists "should not despise the Jews"3 and that "there is to be no erecting of barriers. . . . Our work is to be given as freely to the Jews as to the Gentiles."4
2 White , Testimonies for the Church (Nampa, Idaho' Pacific Press Pub. Assn , 1948), 9:190,
3 White, Manuscript 87, 1907
4 Feb. 3, 1908.
In reaching out to non-Seventh-day Adventists, the following three truths need to be remembered:
1. Not all Seventh-day Adventists will be saved.
2. Not all Christians or only Christians belonging to a church will be saved.
3. The important Pauline principle, "For God has no favorites . . . when gentiles who do not possess the law carry out its precepts by the light of nature, then, although they have no law, they are their own law, for they display the effect of the law inscribed in their heart. Their con science is called as witness" (Rom. 2:13-15, NEB).