reply to post by jra
Oh, OK.......what I saw in the OP was a video of a guy who designed a sort of "parasail" thing......the "TOP" link shows, well....what MANY people
Those who are "wannabe" pilots (bless their hearts).......I see, from a few brief searches online, quite a few avid enthusiasts who wish to build the
"ultimate" simulator......without spending the roughly 10 to 20 milllion Dollars it might cost, for a full0motion hydraulically controlled and
There was a "category" of "simulators" that I recall from about twenty-five years ago.....that, (ironically), were called "desktop
simulators".....(this is BEFORE the advent of the 'desktop" computer, and the common usage of that phrase "desktop").
The implication (then) of the "desktop simulator"....and a slight scoffing at it, that was present, back then....was that it wasn't as "realistic" as
modern full-motion simulators...which already existed, even 25 years ago (and previously).
But, to tell the truth???? Flying a "desktop"-type simulator is MUCH harder than the real thing...whether a real airplane, or a $20Million Dollar
sim. It requires a degree of focus that is different from an "immersion" experience.....just as the "immersion" in a full-motion, modern simulator is
a bit "different", and a bit more demanding, than "immersion" in the real thing........
I recall, back in the day......when I interviewed at United.... (this was 1980)......we actually used a DC-10 full-motion simulator.
Oh, it was very basic.....hold altitude, intercept the Localizer, start down on the Glidesope....have a Fire Warning in the center engine, at about
500 feet.....simple stuff......Later, after I was hired somewhere else.......(Oh, well...United would have hired me then, but they started to LAY off
a lot and in 1980 ....they stopped hiring right when I was in the middle of the interview process.....)...anyway, YEARS later, I heard that, instead
of a DC-10 simulator to test applicants, they used a .....yeah, you guessed it!!!
A "desktop simulator"........it was good in the sense that it could cull those who were poor at instrument flying......those who could NOT
multi-task.....and, thus, not perceive the visual cues, that might have contradicted their 'physical'.cues.
Anyone who has ever flown an airplane to an extent understands what that means........
OH, and BTW....I might want to contact this guy!!
yeah, he used a 737-100 'carcass' for the cockpit......but, the instrumentation, as shown in the video, is right out of a B-737 'Next Gen'......the
737-700, or 800 or 900 series......but, only as delivered to certain airlines. Meaning, the MFDs (Multi-Function Displays) arranged as he
shows.....isn't in every airline customer's configuration.....oh the SCREENS are (the MFDs themselves)....in a "Next Gen"......but, the depiction on
....well........at MY airline, we had a slew of the "older" 737s.....with conventional instrumentation....AND, in order (per the FAA) for us ALL to be
able to fly the fleet, (without making the "newer' ones a different bidding category)....the FAA, in their "infinite wisdom", thought that we could be
allowed to see only "two" different "versions" of cockpit instrumentation......the old, "round-dials" (as we called them.....737-300 )....and the
'middle-step" EFIS version, in the 737-500s......and the FAA would not allow more than "two" variations in instrumentation presentations, and allow a
"commonality" for currency purposes.
To the FAA< the new "Next Gen" versions.....to them, it was THREE variations, in one fleet....so, they required, in order to allow no separation, and
thus crew scheduling and bidding complications (things the airline don't want) the FAA allowed it only if the MFD screens showed the same approximate
re-creation of the "round dials"....and the -500 EFIS representations.....instead of the true versatility that those MFDs provided....as seen in other
company's 737-"next Gens", or the B-767-400, or the 777, or the 787........
Or, even (gag) airbuses!)
Sorry, it's complicated......by now, the 737-300s are LONG gone....retired, and assigned to the "boneyards" ....or sold off to others. But, WE had to
endure the MFD screen that simulated "round dials".....instead of the far more prevalent instrumentation presentation seen on most current modern
Of course, the MFDs can be "switched" over easily......(done down in the E&E compartment, by the avionics guys).....it was a regulatory, and
"operational convenience" issue, at the time......:this "garage simulator" guy has my respect. He set up his "sim" with not only a very modern
six-screen MFD arrangement, but also the full dual FMCs, and the associated CDUs.....not originally installed in ANY B-737-100!!!
AND.....he somehow seemed to have added visuals, out the front windshields?!?!
This guy, as I said, is worthy of a meet.........
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