reply to post by jiggerj
At my angle I shouldn't be seeing them at all, much less looking UP.

No, that's not correct.
Imagine you are standing at the North Pole at midwinter. Polaris would be overhead, and you would be able to see all the stars moving horizontally
across the sky without rising or setting. The familiar constellations of the Zodiac would appear in a slowly moving band along the horizon. The stars
of the Southern Hemisphere would be invisible, below the horizon.
Now start walking south. As you do so, you will see the circle of the Zodiac begin to tilt in the sky. Half of it disappears below the horizon behind
you. The other half will rise in the sky, forming an arc. It is, of course, still turning; constellations rise above the horizon and move across the
southern sky before setting, each in succession. Once you have passed below the Arctic Circle, your daily view the procession would be interrupted for
increasing periods by the Sun, but the procession would still continue.
Descend to your present latitude, forty degrees or so above the equator, and what do you see? The Zodiac is now an arc whose zenith is forty degrees
above the horizon. The constellations rise and set along this arc. You have to look up to see them unless they've just risen or are about to set.
Now travel further south, to where I live a few degrees above the equator. The Zodiac is now a band that spans the sky from east to west, its highest
point a few degrees off the zenith. We'll have to give ourselves cricks in our necks to view them as they pass above us. To the north, you will be
able to recognize the stars and constellations you've known all your life. To the south, you will see stars you may never have glimpsed before; the
stars of the southern heavens, in unfamiliar arrangements.
Hope that explains it.