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Originally posted by beezzer
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."
I think this applies here as well.
(I've used this quote quite a bit in the past few years)
Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology.
Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture.
Fascism promotes political violence and war, as forms of direct action that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.
Fascists commonly utilize paramilitary organizations for violence against opponents or to overthrow a political system.
Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and two major forms of socialism—communism and social democracy.
Fascism claims to represent a synthesis of cohesive ideas previously divided between traditional political ideologies. To achieve its goals, the fascist state purges forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration.
The fascist party is a vanguard party designed to initiate a revolution from above and to organize the nation upon fascist principles. The fascist party and state is led by a supreme leader who exercises a dictatorship over the party, the government and other state institutions.
Fascism rejects liberal democracy based upon majority rule and the parliamentary system but fascists deny that they are against democracy as a whole.
Fascism condemns liberal democracy for basing government legitimacy on quantity rather than quality, and for causing quarreling partisan politics.
Fascists claim that their ideology is a trans-class movement, advocating resolution to domestic class conflict within a nation to secure national solidarity. It claims that its goal of social nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into proletarian national culture While fascism opposes domestic class conflict, fascism believes that bourgeois-proletarian conflict primarily exists in national conflict between proletarian nations versus bourgeois nations; fascism declares support for the victory of proletarian nations.
Fascists advocate a state-directed, regulated economy that is dedicated to the nation; the use and primacy of regulated private property and private enterprise contingent upon service to the nation, the use of state enterprise where private enterprise is failing or is inefficient, and autarky. It supports criminalization of strikes by employees and lockouts by employers because it deems these acts as prejudicial to the national community.
Fascism is commonly described as "extreme right" although some writers have found placing fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum difficult. There is a scholarly consensus that fascism was influenced by both left and right, conservative and anti-conservative, national and supranational, rational and anti-rational. A number of historians have regarded fascism either as a revolutionary centrist doctrine, as a doctrine which mixes philosophies of the left and the right, or as both of those things
Revolutionary centrist doctrine sounds like hope and change,progessives and how they achieve their goals.
I don't see OWS waving American flags around and reciting the pledge of allegiance.
Sounds more like voter ID and the purging of illegals from our lands. The terror at the thought of European social democracy too.
How many leftists do you hear saying, 'The tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants?'
Dressing like militiamen and carrying around semi-automatic rifles to your Tea Party rallies is just...cosplay?
With the exception of modern American conservatism, which political movement is vehemently opposed to liberalism and any form of socialism in America? Is it OWS or the Tea Party?
Ban gay marriage! Don't say 'gay!' Kick out illegals! Drug test welfare recipients! Take our country 'back!'
Who facilitated the organization of massive Tea Party and 9/12 rallies across the nation? Glenn Beck and the Koch brothers!
We're a republic damn it! Who keeps saying that? Oh right, OW...no wait...
Let's see, 'basing government legitimacy on quantity...' Who here is clamoring for smaller government? The movement in America today demanding we cut government to an inoperable size? They're not asking for more efficient government, they're asking for less and less government.
“If the German people lay down their weapons, the Soviets, according to the agreement between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, would occupy all of East and Southeast Europe along with the greater part of the Reich. An iron curtain would fall over this enormous territory controlled by the Soviet Union, behind which nations would be slaughtered.”
“Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.”
“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.”
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by links234
Your right they waved things like this around
Since when has anyone said the pledge of alllegance lately?
Oh the horror of asking a voter for proof of identification but has no problems with the police asking and by law is required to have every time they get behind the wheel of a car and to drive to go vote
Heard ows say that an worse.
This guy and ows thought they were "patriots"
OWs and Democrats there is no problem a law can't solve and apparently there are a lot of problems laws need to solve which is vehemtly opposed to liberalism
Saw OWs hate on gay and lesbians and take our country back rhetoric.
Seen a lot of money funneled into OWs from the soros's of the left wing
The only people who have a problem with being a republic are fascists who reject equality of equal voice equal representation.
Too big to fail which you made the we need quantity meaning more of it
Yep think what you will but i do not believe we need a law for everything under the sun in this country anyone who does well is fascist anti democracy anti republic
Completely irrelevant to the argument of which movement is more nationalistic than the other.
You're the one who wants to limit voting to only those with an ID, not me.
So what does that make the Tea Party?
So are you going to slap a bumper-sticker on your car proudly declaring yourself a liberal?
Show me. Please.
So you have receipts and proof of this money funnelling?
According to your link fascists are opposed only to democracy, not republics. Since when is one vote in Wyoming equal to 11 votes in California 'fair'?
Your definition of fascism has nothing to do with 'too big to fail', you specifically quoted a section regarding quantity over quality of government.