My idea of what happened to JFK?

Years ago I was sitting in a living room listening to an old man talking about his days in the Military. He was telling me how the story he heard the day after was that Lane Brain Johnson ordered JFK WANTED FOR TREASON flyers distributed out in The Dallas a few days before JFK's visit by right wing activists. JFK had refused to be a puppet for the Entitled Bureaucrats that we call this day, the elite. The old man gave talk about LBJ hiring a man who was to get a team together. He said there very well maybe a person who perched up in the depository, but whether it was Lee Harvey Oswald, let us just say there are those who I hold in positions of respect and they said LHO was just a patsy he went to add that it could however go either way. He went to add whether or not the person payed had gotten his help he was supposed to find, there were at least 2 or three shooters. Talking about how he could confirm it because the blast patterns come from different directions but one blast pattern looked like it had come from the same place. But there could have been three shooters. But there was definitely on coming from the direction of the grassy knowl. He remembers his cousins being stationed close to dallas and had decided to attend. They confirmed blast patterns from 2 different directions one coming from the direction of the "grassy knowl."

All I know is I watched the video available and there are two different blast patterns, bullets coming from a definite 2 different locations.

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Interesting story about Johnson actually printing these up. There are other versions you know:

Wanted JFK

You can read the leaflet in the link. Kennedy should never have travelled into the lions den. But then he also knew that he needed those same lions on his side if he wanted to be successful politically. So he went, and they killed him. Assholes...

Edit: As an interesting side note. The above link to the flyer states that oswald also attempted to assassinate Edwin Walker prior to actually shooting JFK.It was his assistant that produced the flyer. Heres a bunch of links. The first Wiki sums it up.

Edwin Walker / Oswald

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Stating that the Kennedy's had any skirmishes in dealing with the "Entitled Bureaucrats", the organized crime and the puppet masters is a bit of rewriting history.

The Kennedy's family history is pretty inclusive. In fact both brothers had been propped up into their political life all their lives. The only problem is that they pretty much showed no commitment to the goals of any special group if interest using everyone to further advancing their political plans and ultimately they probably payed that lack of solidarity...

There are few things that the JFK can clearly be remembered and recognized, the peaceful resolution of the missile crisis, the Peace Corps and civil rights and liberties support. And in death the utterly corrupt government the USA is, with the commission report, his brother's death and all the incredible things that came out of it.

There is much to blame also the Bay of Pigs Invasion fiasco (in fact without it there probably wouldn't have been a missile crisis), probably an involvement in Marilyn Monroe death...

He is credited for the space program, but the USA had to get into that race. Anyone that remembers or has seen footage and historic reports on how the "free world" received the USSR's lunch of the Sputnik and the news of cosmonauts in orbit would understand better the propagandistic effect it had.

There was also the issue with the fear of space weaponization from the onset, including spy satellites. remember that U2 crisis and even the importance this information gathering lane had in finding out the missile movements on Cuba. (at the time flights over Russia had stopped).

Even the famous speech in Germany had geopolitical goals.

In any case for me he was killed by the mafia with support from the CIA especially in the know is the Bush family and they have benefited from knowing what happened then.

I believe this one over all others because, what I do is look at the most simple reason or story, in cases like this it is usually the right one. If you were a lobbyist in the sixties it is not that hard to believe that he was doing every single thing wrong. I however argue the the latter. That JFK would have been the best thing this country had done. Even though his positive strives for the people the nation would have and did revert back to those in power, making them want to control things more. So even if he served out his presidency, his good work would have been considered moot, just as it is today. So as good of a president that he was/could have been as I regard him, or any president really. It is always going to refer back to the corrupt

As the other story goes, he was put into power by the Mob, and then started to close down the casino's and prostitution in the cuba playground which was controlled by the Mob,and was also having problems with Carlos marchello Mob boss in New Orleans,they were really Pis#ed of with him because they felt without their help he would not be where he was, and old man kennedy who was the lynch pin between the two could not control both of his now out of control sons.

Then the All The Way with LBJ was not satisfied with VP, who knew they were running around the world with their Peckers in their hands, so there were enough people with an axe to grind so take your pick, There is a video making the rounds which clearly shows Oswald leaning in the downstairs doorway of the book depository when the shooting started

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If people just focused now on spreading the word further that JFK was assasinated with the help of GW Bush snr and others then we have a chance to wake more people up.

I know for a fact now that now many know 9/11 was an inside job, this has reopened peoples minds into JFK. The day JFK was murdered by the CIA and others was the day America was lost. JFK went tp remove the federal reserve and they killed him, plain and simple. They then installed thier puppet president and Americans lost thier country.

Well, LBJ was very involved with oil tycoons...LBJ TAPES

I have always presumed that there ws a possibility of LBJ's complicity. Whether or not he was directly involved is a whole other issue. It has always been my understanding that if Oswald was involved in the shooting at all, which is contested by some, he was gunning for Connors, not JFK.

Honestly, all I can say is that I don't buy into the official "magic bullet" theory. I have always believed that there was much more to the story than anyone has been willing to divulge.

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I will be watching this thread and hope that Jimm Marss will contribute with some info on the subject...

Thx.

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You may be interested to hear the "E. Howard Hunt deathbed Confession" - It's interesting because in it he claims to reveal who was involved in the JFK assassination, such as Lyndon Johnson for example.

According to Hunt's confession, which was taken by his son, St. John ("Saint") Hunt, over the course of many personal and carefully planned father-son meetings, the following individuals were among the key participants:

Lyndon B. Johnson: LBJ, whose own career was assisted by JFK nemesis J. Edgar Hoover (FBI), gave the orders to a CIA-led hit team, and helped guide the Warren Commission/lone gunman cover-up.

Cord Meyer: CIA agent, architect of the Operation Mockingbird disinformation apparatus, and husband of Mary Meyer (who had an affair with JFK).

David Atlee Philips: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Recruited William Harvey (CIA) and Cuban exile militant Antonio Veciana.

William Harvey: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Connected to Mafia figures Santos Trafficante and Sam Giancana.

Antonio Veciana: Cuban exile, founder of CIA-backed Alpha 66.

Frank Sturgis: CIA operative, mercenary, Bay of Pigs veteran, and later Watergate figure.

David Morales: CIA hit man, Bay of Pigs veteran. Morales was also a figure involved with the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

Lucien Sarti: Corsican assassin and drug trafficker, possible "French gunman," Grassy Knoll (second) shooter.

Would Hunt continue to tell lies on his deathbed? Perhaps. Would Hunt tell a final tall story or two, to protect himself, or perhaps deal one final slap in the face to the US government (which made him a fall guy for Watergate)? Yes. Would Hunt hide the involvement of certain individuals to whom he remained loyal, including people who are still alive? Certainly. Anything from an operative like Hunt can only be accepted with caution and healthy skepticism.

(Source)

It can also be found in video form here.

"The Men Who Killed Kennedy" documentary, namely part 9, may also be to your particular liking as It's dedicated to Johnson and his involvement.



Oh, and Jack Ruby also quite famously hinted at Johnson's involvement too. There's a lot more out there (to say the least) but I thought you might find all of that above in particular quite interesting, especially as it involves Johnson.

In regards to the flyer, H.L. Hunt told Madeleine Brown he was responsible for it.

Source

I hadn't seen that Jack Ruby exchange with a reporter before, it's quite compelling. In fact in the UK, we saw very little of Jack Ruby on tape, except his attack on LHO. And according to LBJ's lover, Oswald frequented Ruby's night club, and that Ruby had remarked that Oswald had boasted of taking a potshot at Major Walker in the club. A right old bunch of fightin' 49er's.

Should have said that Oswald boasted in the club one night, of taking the potshot at Walker which occurred at Walker's home.