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reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:25 PM by longjohnbritches
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I know there a lot of NASA fplks in Washington DC and that area.
Well anyonre around that vicinity might want to stop by and give ole Werhner a flower or two.

www.findagrave.com...
Wernher von Braun (1912 - 1977) - Find A Grave Memorial
www.findagrave.com/pictures/4323.html - Similarto Wernher von Braun (1912 - 1977) - Find A Grave Memorial

Jan 7, 1999 ... Born Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun, in Wirsitz, ... 1975 National Medal of Science and died of kidney cancer in June 1977.
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reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:41 PM by longjohnbritches
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jra
Thanks for trying...
I can see your hart is not in it.
Did you know that one MOON MAN cried on his death bed?
I wonder if Norzette has it in him to cry at all.
take care ljb


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:50 PM by ProudBird
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LOL!!!:

I can see your hart is not in it.


A "hart" is a male deer.


Oh....you meant to write "heart?"

OK.....and the point was (again)???


TWO men who happened to be (One, a former NAZI...and the other, JEWISH??)...

And, this is a basis for a thread again...HOW?????



reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:50 PM by longjohnbritches
reply to post by eriktheawful


Hi eric,
Did you know that both MOON MEN were investigated by the FBI??

huntsville.about.com...
The FBI Files of Wernher von Braun
huntsville.about.com/library/blank/blvonbraun5.htm

Tom Carney, of Old Huntsville magazine, has pieced together the FBI files of rocket scientist Wernher von Braun, who put the first man on the moon.


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:56 PM by ProudBird
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Did you know that both MOON MEN were investigated by the FBI??


WHICH again.....relates HOW???

Richard NIXON was likely a subject of an "FBI" investigation!! (Just to name ONE person).....

.........Werner von Brain......a former NAZI (or, as might be the case), a person who realized that he COULD SAVE HIS OWN LIFE, and the LIVES OF HIS FAMILIES if he "went along" with the "PTB" at the time....who were....the NAZIS!!!!

I dunno....let's ask Dr. von Braun....oh, wait!! He's DEAD!!!!

(Just because he's dead, does not mean he wasn't BRILLIANT.......EINSTEIN is dead too....so is Galileo......)

I mean......what a WASTE of a thread, this is!!

Sad......


EDIT....there is a term....it's "anti-semitic"......I think sometimes, we might see that, in the mirror....staring back into our own eyes......(unless we NIP IT!!! NIP it....in the BUD!!!).....

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reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 04:12 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



Did you know that both MOON MEN were investigated by the FBI??


WHICH again.....relates HOW???

Richard NIXON was likely a subject of an "FBI" investigation!! (Just to name ONE person).....

.........Werner von Brain......a former NAZI (or, as might be the case), a person who realized that he COULD SAVE HIS OWN LIFE, and the LIVES OF HIS FAMILIES if he "went along" with the "PTB" at the time....who were....the NAZIS!!!!

I dunno....let's ask Dr. von Braun....oh, wait!! He's DEAD!!!!

(Just because he's dead, does not mean he wasn't BRILLIANT.......EINSTEIN is dead too....so is Galileo......)

I mean......what a WASTE of a thread, this is!!

Sad......


EDIT....there is a term....it's "anti-semitic"......I think sometimes, we might see that, in the mirror....staring back into our own eyes......(unless we NIP IT!!! NIP it....in the BUD!!!).....

edit on Sat 21 April 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)

Well then all you have to do is ZIP IT, ZIP IT.
You are the only one here talking trash. Like some Communist henchman.
Keep your anti semetic crap race card far from here chum.
By the way what RACE do you foolishly refer to?
BOTH MOON MEN LOOK like the same RACE to me.
YOU know something every body else doesn't
Then post it up BUCKO ljb


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 04:53 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



I am not "talking "trash"!....(lol).....so rude.

NO......I bring FACTS to these discussions.

Please try to acknowledge the FACTS that I present.....so (others) "get" that....THEY are focused on reality........


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 07:39 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



I am not "talking "trash"!....(lol).....so rude.

NO......I bring FACTS to these discussions.

Please try to acknowledge the FACTS that I present.....so (others) "get" that....THEY are focused on reality........

pb
That's a little better.
Sure Facts,thats what it is about.
Look I can see a bunch of NASA groupies wanting to protect thier cyber turf.
I can understand thier embarrassment about either of these men.
If you mention WVB fighting hand to hand with Segorney against the Alien, well the thread would get 60 stars and be on the front page. Where ever that is.
The stories of both these men are human tragedies.
The fact that Stewart's dad was a big part of The Manhatan Project alone should make him roll over in his( you see I don't even know if he is...)Well I think there is plenty reason to be concerned and interested.
Even if you don't. I can live with that.
ljb


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 11:08 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



Werner von Braun {versus} Stewart Nozette??

OK.....

>>please, continue!

(edit)......I'll make some popcorn.....

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reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 11:10 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



I am not "talking "trash"!....(lol).....so rude.

NO......I bring FACTS to these discussions.

Please try to acknowledge the FACTS that I present.....so (others) "get" that....THEY are focused on reality........


PB your all hart,

You wanted some facts. Here you go!

Here is a little something I ran accross while trying to get a link to this company. Stewart Nozette was a consultant for them,

Israel Aerospace Industries moving production to Mississippi
www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/israel-aerospace-industries-moving-p
The Israel Aerospace Industries is moving certain production lines from Israel to the United States. The production lines are being moved to group company Stark Aerospace, located in Starkville, Mississippi.
Stark is technically a subsidiary of IAI International, which is the main U.S. subsidiary of the Israeli firm.
IAI set up Stark in 2006 to drum up business in America. The following year inaugurated its first production outfit, which makes Hunter unmanned vehicles that it sells through Northrop Grumman. In fact, the U.S. armed forces have been using Hunter drones since the early 1990s.
cheers lj


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 11:15 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



"Israel"?

OK.....hey, let's not be anti-semitic....because, I NEVER, EVER go there.......(except for a very. very, very funny joke I know.....which is best left un-said)......at least, in THIS forum....

Hey! I got a 'million' of 'em!!!......Jokes, I mean......whether offensive, or not......anti-semitic, or not.....racist?? Yeah, got THOSE too.....and....AND some against "Whitey"?? Yeah..yup.....those too,,,, (I happen to be a bit of a Caucasian, so.....yeah.....I CAN laugh at myself....)



reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 11:27 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



"Israel"?

OK.....hey, let's not be anti-semitic....because, I NEVER, EVER go there.......(except for a very. very, very funny joke I know.....which is best left un-said)......at least, in THIS forum....

Hey! I got a 'million' of 'em!!!......Jokes, I mean......whether offensive, or not......anti-semitic, or not.....racist?? Yeah, got THOSE too.....and....AND some against "Whitey"?? Yeah..yup.....those too,,,, (I happen to be a bit of a Caucasian, so.....yeah.....I CAN laugh at myself....)


ZONK it's MISSISSIPPI keep um rollin. I lmao just on your serious posts.
Did you see the bold type? I guess not. REMOTE control aircraft.
You are probly solo cup party guy. have a wonderful evening.I will change my avatar in your honor ljb
Please bring something on topic


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 12:09 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



Please bring something on topic


Oh...such irony....

OK......back to "topic" (such as it is)..


"Two Super Moon Men"........and, we see that they are (one) a former NAZI....and (two) a person of the Jewish faith.


What else?? OH, they happened to be very, very, very smart.

Did I miss anything, here??


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 01:07 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



Please bring something on topic


Oh...such irony....

OK......back to "topic" (such as it is)..


"Two Super Moon Men"........and, we see that they are (one) a former NAZI....and (two) a person of the Jewish faith.


What else?? OH, they happened to be very, very, very smart.

Did I miss anything, here??


Absolutly as always. That is a reply of a parrot not a proud one either.
What's your point??
Do you see something in your statement that's relitive.
Could you share some details.
Is one good or is one bad? Are they exactly the same?

Come on son enlighten us
Me and my steed are all ears!


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 02:35 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by ArMaP



A "former" Nazi who was a "dedicated Christian"??

Yup.

I believe, from reading my history, that the NAZIs considered themselves to be "christian"...as a rule......

Kinda-sorta shows the hypocrisy of the "mind-set".......


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 02:38 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



Come on son enlighten us
Me and my steed are all ears!


Your "steed"? Is it a Donkey? ("Don Quixote" reference.......but, I guess I'm just being an 'ass'.....)...

Anyways......

.........brilliant minds can be ANY "religion".

THAT is my point.....in case it wasn't very clear, before.


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 02:44 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to
post by longjohnbritches



Come on son enlighten us
Me and my steed are all ears!


Your "steed"? Is it a Donkey? ("Don Quixote" reference.......but, I guess I'm just being an 'ass'.....)...

Anyways......

.........brilliant minds can be ANY "religion".

THAT is my point.....in case it wasn't very clear, before.




Quite interesting! Because I was just composing this---

I hope this thread can accomplish what I started out to accomplish.
Mostly to look deep into these two SUPER MOON MEN and their lives and accomplishments.
To look at the space program through their eyes and see what is reflected back to us.
With a discussion such as this we all MIGHT (grain of salt over the shoulder) have a chance to work out meaningful directions of how to improve mans future in space.
The world is in a deplorable situation. Is NASA a microcosm of this world??
Do these two men not represent a wide variety of the ideologies, cultures, religion, brilliance and darkness that inhabit us all?? From my point of view we are only victims or benefactors of these things temporarily, if we do not try to understand them as a united people. Otherwise we are doomed to repeat them.
I know it will seem difficult to set aside strong emotional beliefs and educational indoctrinations to get through a successful discussion. So if you can't do it stay out and let this thread just die and be that lesson that it will be. FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE.
optimistically ljb
PS We may not all be Gods children but we are some one's children.


reply posted on 22-4-2012 @ 04:40 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by longjohnbritches



Very 'insightful' and 'philosophical'.......I suppose......

...but, a bit astray of the focus.

Nice "ideas".....just......limited in scope.

To even presume that NASA is somehow the "end-all" and "be-all" of the evils in this World??

his indicates a certain 'fixation' on something other than reality......NASA, as an organization....is one TINY component on this planet.

The USA is NOT the only country, or civilization, on this planet, either.....

....."focus"?? It is not focused........
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