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The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel

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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Well this thread took a predictable direction...

my personal opinion is that communism was the result of funding from wall street as well as deliberate in-action in helping the white army by the western powers rather than Jewish interference




posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Well this thread took a predictable direction...

my personal opinion is that communism was the result of funding from wall street as well as deliberate in-action in helping the white army by the western powers rather than Jewish interference



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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reply to post by QQXXw
 

Hi QQ,
You may have something there.
Read up on what Churchill and Patton had to say about it.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Hi zero
Looks like you have a bit on your plate here.
I'm with ya. I hear ya. Let's take a break and continue soon.
thanks ljb



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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I would love to know why you feel that just because US made a promise (not even in writing) that she would never go back on her word.

How many treaties (written) did the US back out of? The answer is many, almost every single one, starting with going behind Frances back after getting her (US) objective goals fulfilled.

The fact is, the US will only keep that promise so long as she believes it to work to her benefit. Currently it still works to the benefit of the US

Someday it will not.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Well that told me. Thanks for the lesson on Christianity and Jews.....hope you don't get punished for spelling Rothschild wrong.......



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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You sound surprised, when known liars are "racist"?
Someone needs a history lesson on israel and its people.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Haha. Glad i could help. As for Rotchild/Rotshield/Rotcheild/Rothschild - i really do not care about them But i know that even if fists are shaken in their direction, torches and pitchforks are later somehow always applied on others.
Being among those others , it worries me. Hope you understand.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Sorry, can't stay around long and will be back later to respond to some other posts, but just wanted to point out : there's no way I believe the Israeli people in general are racist, nor do I believe that Jews in general are responsible for so many of the worlds problems, and I think if you're putting those types of ideas across it's not really going to get us anywhere. I think the problem, again, lies with the elite.
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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by longjohnbritches
 





Come on now zero there are only four directions.

There is infinite number of directions. Out of those, this thread choose a certain one. Nothing wrong with that though,as long as it is civil.
Karl Marx is a Jew. While he was not first Socialist nor created that philosophy, he is certainly father of modern Communism. However he based his ideas not on Judaism (he was a baptized atheist that claimed that religion is opium for the masses) but on Western philosophers and Western economic theories.
I can understand the claim that Jew Karl Marx created modern Communism. Author claiming that Jews in general (or Khazarian Jews in particular) were the carriers of Socialism/Communism ideas trying to subvertly implement those is just as wrong as stating that Jews control all the banks. Vast majority of Jews do not own or even work in a bank ,nor is majority of banks worldiwde owned by Jews.
Another example - Einstein is father of general relativity theory. Lots of people claim that he is the father of modern physics - though i think that it is debatable. Are Jews carriers and "spreaders" of general relativity theory or modern physics? I am not so sure - let me look at my grades in physics and quickly hide those again in shame.
I hope you understand what i am trying to say.


Hi again,
Yes I think we can safely say Karl crafted his propaganda after western ideas as he was not stupid enough to try otherwise.
Correct me if I am wrong. Marx invented a new philosophy to fit with the political scene of the late 1800's.
He was a RADICAL instigator.
Lenin's brother attempts to murder the Tzar with a book bomb and is executed when caught.
The Tzar just happens to be Orthodox Christian?
Lenin teams up with other terrorists like Trotsky, while Stalin is on his own terror campaign further south east. Now before we get to the murder of the Tzar Nicoli, his wife and children, let's see if we are still on target with the evolution of Marxist Communism.
cheers ljb
PS
I hope you enjoy history as much as I do. Seems like you do.
Gets kinda bloody and scary too.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Great thread.

S&F

Now days if you even whisper the term 'jew' you get shouted at for being 'ANTI SEMITE' OHHH NO HE IS AN 'ANTI SEMITE' PROSECUTE HIM!!!

Israel has used this excuse for way too long to get away with their evil doings, and I am proud to be a part of the age that is waking up to their b*ll#, and hopefully, hopefully... putting an end to it.


2012 ... WELCOME TO THE AGE OF TRUTH!!!



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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by longjohnbritches

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by longjohnbritches
 





Come on now zero there are only four directions.

There is infinite number of directions. Out of those, this thread choose a certain one. Nothing wrong with that though,as long as it is civil.
Karl Marx is a Jew. While he was not first Socialist nor created that philosophy, he is certainly father of modern Communism. However he based his ideas not on Judaism (he was a baptized atheist that claimed that religion is opium for the masses) but on Western philosophers and Western economic theories.
I can understand the claim that Jew Karl Marx created modern Communism. Author claiming that Jews in general (or Khazarian Jews in particular) were the carriers of Socialism/Communism ideas trying to subvertly implement those is just as wrong as stating that Jews control all the banks. Vast majority of Jews do not own or even work in a bank ,nor is majority of banks worldiwde owned by Jews.
Another example - Einstein is father of general relativity theory. Lots of people claim that he is the father of modern physics - though i think that it is debatable. Are Jews carriers and "spreaders" of general relativity theory or modern physics? I am not so sure - let me look at my grades in physics and quickly hide those again in shame.
I hope you understand what i am trying to say.


Hi again,
Yes I think we can safely say Karl crafted his propaganda after western ideas as he was not stupid enough to try otherwise.
Correct me if I am wrong. Marx invented a new philosophy to fit with the political scene of the late 1800's.
He was a RADICAL instigator.
Lenin's brother attempts to murder the Tzar with a book bomb and is executed when caught.
The Tzar just happens to be Orthodox Christian?
Lenin teams up with other terrorists like Trotsky, while Stalin is on his own terror campaign further south east. Now before we get to the murder of the Tzar Nicoli, his wife and children, let's see if we are still on target with the evolution of Marxist Communism.
cheers ljb
PS
I hope you enjoy history as much as I do. Seems like you do.
Gets kinda bloody and scary too.


I am not sure what you're point is, Soviet Communism was neutral to the Jews at best and at other times actively hostile. Trotsky ended up in Mexico with a ice pick to his head, and when Stalin took over, he was not a great benefactor. When the Soviets first occupied Poland, they ended up carting up a large portion of the Jews in the area and sending them to Siberia (which ironically saved them from the scourges of Hitler) then towards the later part of Stalin's life it was quite clear that he was planning on a having a anti-Semitic purge with regards to Jews with the Doctors Plot.

Then there was the downfall of Ana Pauker the Romanian foreign minister which had as part Stalin as the instigator. Or the Soviets reoccupation of Poland after the War in which they while in internal gave up on trying to protect the remaining Jews in Poland while the country was going through pogroms again, in a bid to try and legitimatize themselves.

On whole from my studies, is that for Jews at first why socialism and even on paper Soviet communism looks appealing for them to join when it enters their area is that it promises to look beyond nationality and towards class, which is a appealing prospect for say poor urban worker of Jewish background in a factory town in Poland. In Soviet Communism being Jewish and being in support of things like Israel was a liability after it became clear that Israel wasn't willing to join their block, which was the fate of Ana Pauker of Romania.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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So far we are in general agreement, though i disgree on time line. Lenin/Trotsky were from second generation of Communists in Russia and Stalin was from third generation. Also Csar Nikolai family murder was much later, after the revolution.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Hi kof,
I guess all you say is certainly interesting. What happened in all the Soviet satellite countries is totally awesome.
But zero and I were trying (I think) to trace the roots of Marxist Communism to the era or the OP. And then to present if no objections arise. I hope the plight of the Romanian woman was not like the DC lady who went to Pakistan to run for pres. yikes
I think we were discussing matters just prior to the terrorist murders of the Tzar and his family.
That may have been the (christening how ironic I would choose that word) of Soviet Red Communism.
Well why not if Marx could be Baptised athiest LOL
cheers ljb



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by robhines
I think the problem, again, lies with the elite.


Sorry, this is wrong. The problem lies with all of us. We're too busy creating division between ourselves instead of getting together and sorting things out. I don't even hate the elite anymore, or the intelligence agencies, or the government officials. Things are only wrong when we divide ourselves.
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posted on Apr, 22 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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I hope this didn't scare every one packin!!
Yes I think we can safely say Karl crafted his propaganda after western ideas as he was not stupid enough to try otherwise.
Correct me if I am wrong. Marx invented a new philosophy to fit with the political scene of the late 1800's.
He was a RADICAL instigator.
Lenin's brother attempts to murder the Tzar with a book bomb and is executed when caught.
The Tzar just happens to be Orthodox Christian?
Lenin teams up with other terrorists like Trotsky, while Stalin is on his own terror campaign further south east. Now before we get to the murder of the Tzar Nicoli, his wife and children, let's see if we are still on target with the evolution of Marxist Communism.
cheers ljb
PS Where did you go Zero???



posted on Apr, 23 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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PS Where did you go Zero???

I am right here. I answered your post - see above.
to quote le me:
"So far we are in general agreement, though i disgree on time line. Lenin/Trotsky were from second generation of Communists in Russia and Stalin was from third generation. Also Csar Nikolai family murder was much later, after the revolution."



posted on Apr, 23 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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www.stel.ru...

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by longjohnbritches
 





PS Where did you go Zero???

I am right here. I answered your post - see above.
to quote le me:
"So far we are in general agreement, though i disgree on time line. Lenin/Trotsky were from second generation of Communists in Russia and Stalin was from third generation. Also Csar Nikolai family murder was much later, after the revolution."

Hi again,
Sorry I missed something. No matter. This post is quite enough for now.
Thanks.
I will post a reference to Lenin so that we may use it as a guide.

I thought Communism was born of the Revolution not before? Can you help me out in my ignorance here.
I would have thought pre revolution would be straight Marxism and disident build up to revolt.
I am not disagreeing just alittle confused.
I think this is important.So maybe time lining Lenin as a central figure we can build the rest around him?
My thoughts thanks ljb
Don't let the title throw you, it does continue past his childhood.

Vladimir Lenin. Childhood.
www.stel.ru/museum/Lenin_childhood.htm - Similarto Vladimir Lenin. Childhood.

Vladimir llyich Ulyanov (Lenin) was born April 10 (22), 1870 in the city of Simbirsk (now called Ulyanovsk), located on the great Russian river, the Volga.

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posted on Apr, 23 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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Well I am tired trying to get these links to work.
Any help out there??



posted on Apr, 23 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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I thought Communism was born of the Revolution not before? Can you help me out in my ignorance here.

I think that modern Communism was born after Karl Marxes "Communist manifesto". Even though i just saw that it was ordered by something called Communist league, that pamphlet was the ideological background for all the crap that actually followed.
First Russian Communist,Plekhanov , was politically active when Ulyanov was just a kid. October revolution just gave power to hardliner Communists. After the revolution and complete failure of implementing utopian foolishness of Communist ideas in normal society, Soviet Communist party turned into Socialistic dictature.


I think this is important.So maybe time lining Lenin as a central figure we can build the rest around him?

Of course Lenin was very important, he took Marx ideas and added tons of practical cynicism. However it was still based on Comiunist manifesto - at least as i understand it. I have little desire to torture myself reading Marx or Lenin.
As for link - i fail to open it too. But wiki (and net in general) has tons of info about Lenin. Frankly, with him being some kind of idol in Soviet Union i am not that sure that official Russian sources can be trusted even today.



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