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Originally posted by johngrissom
I hope he gets found innocent just because all of you want him guilty and of course the prosecutors find him guilty. They are supposed to...thats what that are paid to do. Hell OJ's lawyer said he was innocent but was he?
Martin was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then made the wrong decision to pretty much say "screw this person talking to me...I need to keep up this bad*** image and throw up my hoodie." I would question people walking around my house at night. WHY THE EFFF NOT PEOPLE? Would I follow the person? Hell no...might have a gun. Call the cops and move on. Is it Zimmerman fault? No...its not but dont have attitude with someone and then run off. If Martin would have just turned around and said what he was doing, that might have made the situation better. ANY TIME YOU RUN, IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
I think a lot of you are forgetting about the woman shooting the man on the phone with the cops. SHE WAS PRAISED FOR IT....................................but Zimmerman automatically did it because Martin was BLACK.
ALL OF YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELVES!!!! Because maybe YOU are the racist person.
Originally posted by olliemc84
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
How in the heck can Zimmerman claim self defense when:
1. Zimmerman approached Martin, not the other way around...
2. Zimmerman was armed with a deadly weapon
3. He had already contacted the police which was the extent of his obligation
4. The 911 dispatcher tells him he does not need to follow Martin.
This case makes absolutely no sense to me and hasn't from the very beginning.
The country has lost it's collective mind....
It occurs to me that the only reason Zimmerman can claim self defense is because he's the one who is still alive....edit on 20-4-2012 by Blarneystoner because: (no reason given)
Did you not see the picture? The one with the gashes on the top of his head? Did that happen AFTER he, from the way you make it sound, slaughtered Treyvon Martin in the middle of the street with a deadly weapon? Or was he actually protecting himself after getting JUMPED?
Originally posted by hanyak69
reply to post by phishyblankwaters
Martin had a choice, he could have talked instead of beaten down Zimmerman. Any reasonable person that is not doing anything wrong would say hi and start a civilized conversation. Not put his hands in his pants and walk up and start a confrontation. Zimmerman was just trying to get information for the police, on someone that looked suspicious to him which is the purpose of having a watch. He was doing what he thought he was supposed to do.
I regret that someone lost their life but.............
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Can someone explain to me how blood on Zimmerman proves Martin attacked him first?
It's speculation, nothing more. Martin might have started it, Zimmerman might have. Zimmerman having blood on his head proves his innocence as much as Martin being dead proves Martin's innocence.
Originally posted by xEphon
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Can someone explain to me how blood on Zimmerman proves Martin attacked him first?
It's speculation, nothing more. Martin might have started it, Zimmerman might have. Zimmerman having blood on his head proves his innocence as much as Martin being dead proves Martin's innocence.
This logic is what 99% of Zimmerman defenders can't comprehend.
They love to claim it was Martin who attacked first because look at his head!
It makes absolutely no sense. No one has any idea who attacked first or how the altercation went.
All I know is that a grown man decided to follow a kid, who did nothing wrong, and the kid wound up dead.
That alone is enough for me, and the initial investigators, to deserve a trail.
Now that we have one, we can let a jury decide.
Though, I'd be curious to know how many murderers will use the 'Zimmerman' defense if he is found innocent...edit on 20-4-2012 by xEphon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by buster2010
Originally posted by hanyak69
reply to post by phishyblankwaters
Martin had a choice, he could have talked instead of beaten down Zimmerman. Any reasonable person that is not doing anything wrong would say hi and start a civilized conversation. Not put his hands in his pants and walk up and start a confrontation. Zimmerman was just trying to get information for the police, on someone that looked suspicious to him which is the purpose of having a watch. He was doing what he thought he was supposed to do.
I regret that someone lost their life but.............
Zimmerman was just trying to do things he had no legal right to do. He was part of a watch program that means observe not follow and harass people. It's real nice how you are trying to make Zimmerman sound just so nice like he was just casually strolling down the street.
Just listen to the audio. Zimmerman already made his mind up that Martin was a criminal and the other remark he makes at 2:22 really shows his mindset.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
actually under the law , it doesnt matter even if he had provoked him.........if zimmerman was getting attacked and felt his life was in danger after being attacked..........the stand your ground law still protects him......
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Even if Zimmerman is acquitted his life has been ruined. The Neo-Black Panthers will put out another bouty on his head and he will be running for the rest of his life.
This is what happens when the media fans the flames of a non existant hate-crime and tries to make the man guilty before he has even been charged or tried. This is the kind of thing that has made america go from being a "innocent until proven guilty" country to being a "guilty until proven innocent" country.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Originally posted by xEphon
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Can someone explain to me how blood on Zimmerman proves Martin attacked him first?
It's speculation, nothing more. Martin might have started it, Zimmerman might have. Zimmerman having blood on his head proves his innocence as much as Martin being dead proves Martin's innocence.
This logic is what 99% of Zimmerman defenders can't comprehend.
They love to claim it was Martin who attacked first because look at his head!
It makes absolutely no sense. No one has any idea who attacked first or how the altercation went.
All I know is that a grown man decided to follow a kid, who did nothing wrong, and the kid wound up dead.
That alone is enough for me, and the initial investigators, to deserve a trail.
Now that we have one, we can let a jury decide.
Though, I'd be curious to know how many murderers will use the 'Zimmerman' defense if he is found innocent...edit on 20-4-2012 by xEphon because: (no reason given)
actually under the law , it doesnt matter even if he had provoked him.........if zimmerman was getting attacked and felt his life was in danger after being attacked..........the stand your ground law still protects him......
would be easy to find out tho.....
What did the body show? were there any marks on martin besides the bullet wound?
If zimmerman was bloodied and cut up and Martin showed minimal signs of an altercation other than the bullet wound......thats pretty compelling in itself
Originally posted by tracehd1
I could give a rats ass if he bled to death! If this kid found it himself to overpower a much older man then himself to protect himself against a predator ... I would applaud him! To bad his age and a gun prevented him from kicking the # out of Zimmerman
.... The truth of the matter is this... Before this man murdered this poor kid he called 911.... 911 told him to cease and desist going after a person he thought suspicious .....( stereotyping a hoodie!) he was told the POLICE who are sworn in to deal w/ such things as a possible crime, to let them handle it!
He did not listen....HE DID NOT LISTEN!!!!!!! A boy is dead because he BROKE THE LAW....not the child!
People put this pic up of poor poor zimmerman's cut head... We should feel sorry for him? I feel nothing but anger!
Zimmerman acted like an ego driven self entitled selfish murderer. He stereotyped this poor kid because of the way he looked! HE'S NOTHING MORE THEN A SELFISH BULLY THAT ONLY THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AND THE ATTA BOYS HE WOULD GET FOR BEING A HERO!!!!! 911 told him to stop and go home!!!!
What possible excuse could you give this guy????? HE WAS TOLD TO GO HOME!!!! He refused the law!!!!!!
I'm discriminated against daily because of the way I look....it's to bad this kid died because of it!