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reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 04:53 PM by stanguilles7
Originally posted by roadgravel
Seizing lands for a pipeline?

There were 3 pipelines just built through my area, crossing several counties. The energy company paid landowners money in order to run the pipe across their land.


TransCanada seizing private land in Texas for pipeline, claims eminent domain



www.pri.org...

Oklahoma land owners fighting TransCanada over Keystone pipeline



www.ctv.ca...


A Canadian company has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.


www.nytimes.com...
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reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 06:26 PM by MaryStillToe
reply to post by sting130u



You mean similar to what Teddy Roosevelt did? We can all see how bad that turned out.

By the way, is Doocy pronounced Douchey?


reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 07:43 PM by roadgravel
From the Texas railroad commission. Yes, Business has owned the rule makers for quite a while.


Pipeline Eminent Domain and Condemnation Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Q: What is the typical width of a pipeline easement?
A: Unless specified in a right-of-way agreement, the standard easement is set by statute at a width of 50 feet (Texas Natural Resources Code, §111.0194).

Q: How close can a pipeline come to my house or other permanent structure?
A: There are no minimum setback requirements concerning natural gas pipelines and structures. However, a hazardous liquids pipeline must be buried an extra 12 inches in addition the 36 inches/3 feet depth that pipelines must be buried at when installed, if the hazardous pipeline is within 50 feet of a permanent structure. Examples of hazardous liquid pipelines are any pipelines other than natural gas pipelines.

Q: How deep does a pipeline have to be buried?
A: A minimum of 3 feet depth. However, pipeline operators are not required to maintain this depth if erosion occurs after the pipeline’s installation.

Q: Do all pipeline operators have the power of eminent domain?
A: Generally speaking, common carrier pipelines in Texas have a statutory right of eminent domain. Common carrier pipelines are operators that transport oil, oil products, gas, carbon dioxide, salt brine, sand, clay, liquefied minerals or other mineral solutions.

For example, a pipeline transporting hazardous liquids would be a common carrier, and would have the right of eminent domain. A ‘common carrier’ pipeline transporting natural gas would be a ‘public utility’ (more commonly referred to as a ‘gas utility’), and also would have the power of eminent domain. The Railroad Commission does not have the authority to regulate any pipelines with respect to the exercise of their eminent domain powers.

Q: How can I tell if the company that wants to cross my land has the power of eminent domain?
A: The Railroad Commission can inform you as to the status of a pipeline as either a gas utility or a common carrier, both of which have a statutory right of eminent domain. For information on natural gas pipelines, call the Railroad Commission’s Utility Audit Section at (512) 463-7022. For information on other pipelines, call the License & Permit Section at (512) 463-7167.

Q: Where can I get more information on pipeline easements, eminent domain, and condemnation proceedings?
A: A good source of information on these issues can be found at
Texas A & M University’s Real Estate Center’s web site. From that page, select a topic from the left side of the page, such as “Condemnation,” or “Easements.”

Q: If my property has been condemned for a pipeline easement, does the RRC want to be notified?
A: Yes. If your land has been condemned for a pipeline easement, the Commission would like to be informed, since there is no requirement for the operators to notify the Commission. This will help ensure that the operator is properly classified as either a gas utility or a common carrier, depending upon the commodity being transported. Please notify the Utility Audit Section at (512) 463-7022.

Q: What rights do I have as a landowner?
A: We suggest that you review the Texas Landowner's Bill of Rights published by the Texas Attorney General's office.

Texas RRC
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reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 08:13 PM by lobotomizemecapin
reply to post by stanguilles7



Basically if they want to put a highway through your land drill for oil etc etc is what they said. And on top of that I've seen peoples property have roads put through them, so basically if the gov wants ur property its theirs smart guy


reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 08:22 PM by stanguilles7
Originally posted by yuppa
first things first. Canad is not legally able to claim Imminent domain. Only the US government can claim it even if the "owners" sold the land to Trans canada. Second.The US can call the sales null and void and the company is out of money it spent buying it. Mexico does it all the time to people from other countries buying mexican land.


Unfortunately, those in the US Gov. who are pushing the project are pretending it's about national security. It' nt, but that is their claim.

from the link above:



Eminent domain laws generally allow for the confiscation of private property if taking it is judged to serve a larger public good. These kinds of laws differ slightly from state to state as do the processes by which pipelines are approved and licensed. As a result, there is both debate and confusion over whether TransCanada has the right to use the courts to demand easements from property owners in advance of final approval for the project

A senior State Department official, who asked not to be identified because the permit process is continuing, said TransCanada had not sought federal approval to invoke eminent domain. He said the department had no authority on the issue and that it was up to state law and the courts to determine appropriate use of eminent domain laws.

But lawyers for the landowners, particularly in Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas, argue that TransCanada has not met the requirements to invoke eminent domain under those states’ laws. In South Dakota, however, a judge has already ruled that TransCanada could use eminent domain to secure land for a previous pipeline project. .


www.nytimes.com...


reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 08:53 PM by longjohnbritches
reply to post by sting130u


Does this fit in with the land grab??
salem-news.com...

I does know SUPTIN UP Buttwheat

Well here it is, ljb is a linking idiot and the Cav won't be here till the am.
So if you care paste the url in and learn.

The Zionist Cuckoos in Christianity's Nest - Salem-News.Com
The destiny of the Jewish people is to return to the land of Israel and ... but was already being ‘prepped’ on the drawing board of the World Zionist movement. American ...
salem-news.com/articles/april012012/​zionist-cockoos-sl.php - Cached
oh well look at my avatar
edit on 4/20/2012 by longjohnbritches because: stupid



reply posted on 20-4-2012 @ 10:16 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by antonia
reply to
post by captainnotsoobvious



Bah, that guy sounded like 90% of ATS does these days.


Wow what an oportunity for a guy like ljb to ask WHAT the the heck are you two saying with these one liners??
Are you Dissin ATS??
amazed ljb


reply posted on 21-4-2012 @ 03:52 AM by LErickson
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
reply to
post by sting130u


Does this fit in with the land grab??
salem-news.com...

I does know SUPTIN UP Buttwheat

Well here it is, ljb is a linking idiot and the Cav won't be here till the am.
So if you care paste the url in and learn.

The Zionist Cuckoos in Christianity's Nest - Salem-News.Com
The destiny of the Jewish people is to return to the land of Israel and ... but was already being ‘prepped’ on the drawing board of the World Zionist movement. American ...
salem-news.com/articles/april012012/​zionist-cockoos-sl.php - Cached
oh well look at my avatar
edit on 4/20/2012 by longjohnbritches because: stupid


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