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Young Girl Sexually Assaulted Before Murdered

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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by bknapple32

Story coming out of my home town of Las Vegas. Its honestly one of the worst Ive heard in recent memory. Whoever did this needs the worst punishment imaginable. And that's not the death penalty. Its life in prison. Where this person will hopefully receive a raping of his own day after day after day until he dies of some awful disease that takes a lifetime to kill.

Sorry for such anger, but I think its warranted. This is above and beyond the tragedy of a shooting. This is downright disgusting.... Yet the national media has run away with this treyvon martin shooting. And that is awful as well. But why hasn't this received national attention???

lasvegas.cbslocal.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 20-4-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)


Did the police arrive to find the culprit at the scene, admitting he had done it, but let him go because he said it was self defense or are you comparing apples to Volkswagon Things?




posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:35 AM
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I agree with you guys!

This story is horrific. But not every horrific murder needs to be posted on ATS. its just more gore porn.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Yes this is horrible and disgusting but where is the conspiracy or alternative aspect of this??

I dont see how this sort of thing belongs on ATS, if anyone wants to read about this stuff they can go to the MSM.

Once again its horrible and Im not trivialising it I just dont think it was necessary to post on ATS


the kid was ten years old ffs, i guess if she was brutality raped and murdered by a white neighbourhood watch guy the mainstream media and your president would give a #.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Ausar
i heard about this from my bp (black planet) news feed about 3 days ago. why u mention trevon when this is unrelated. atrocious.


How odd, I never heard of it on White Planet..

Oh wait, is that even a website, or would it be something like storm front etc etc ... Ahh double standards, gotta love them.

OP, ignore those people. The fact is, ATS can be at times like a community, people will share news items they feel important, and I see nothing wrong with that.

If it has to be 100% conspiracy related, there are dedicated forums for that here, and perhaps it fits, perhaps not... I don't see putting in in General Chit Chat would have worked... Rant maybe.

But it's news. And I had that trayvon news shoved down my throat in my local news paper, and I'm in Australia. So, blah to anyone else.


It is a shocking case... But I've heard of worse happening to white farmers families in south africa. Much much worse, mother, father, daughter, son, all mutilated, sexually abused, dismembered while alive, forced to watch the rapes of the women, and left for dead by rampaging hordes of black south africans, a few years ago.

I'll never forget that...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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Truly sad. Why does America seem to have more incidents like this going on than any other country? Is there something in the water? Is it because capitalism makes poverty more widespread, leaving mothers and fathers unhappy which in turn initiates abuse causing disorders? I was watching Investigation Discovery Channel last night and was thinking, "you know? ID or A&E never have to play reruns, because of the many pointless murders that have taken place everydayin the past, as well as now." Earth is discusting.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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That's it? That is the whole story? How did the 9 year old get to school? How did he know his mother and sister was dead and his father was still alive? Why wasn't he injured? If he had the ability to get to school, why didn't he call 911? Why did they lead the story with her sexual assault if she is dead? I think Double Murder is a little more shocking than sexual assault.

This is a screwed up story, and there should be a whole lot more to follow.

Unfortunately, I agree with others, this isn't unusual, I live in a much smaller town than Vegas, and we get a story like this a few times every year, we've had 2 already this year. There is not room for any extra-special outrage. The Trayvon-Zimmerman thing happens daily as well, and there is no outrage. In fact, it is about 47 times per day that someone is murdered in the US, so by the end of the week, you can pick any one of more than 300 tragic, senseless, inhumane losses of life to throw your outrage at, and next week you can start all over with a new one. No offense to the OP, but this is the world we live in. People are monsters.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by Ausar
i heard about this from my bp (black planet) news feed about 3 days ago. why u mention trevon when this is unrelated. atrocious.



The two are not related obviously, but it is "interesting " (if such a word is appropriate) to note the difference in exposure of the two cases- the trevon case even made headline news here in the UK.

It shows that agendas are at work, agendas to divide, even using murders/deaths


It was not Trayvon's death that sparked international outrage.
It was the cops letting his killer go home and go to bed that night just because the killer said the killing was justified.

I am not sure how you people are missing that.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by repeatoffender

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Yes this is horrible and disgusting but where is the conspiracy or alternative aspect of this??

I dont see how this sort of thing belongs on ATS, if anyone wants to read about this stuff they can go to the MSM.

Once again its horrible and Im not trivialising it I just dont think it was necessary to post on ATS


the kid was ten years old ffs, i guess if she was brutality raped and murdered by a white neighbourhood watch guy the mainstream media and your president would give a #.


You do not know that this crime was not comited by exactly that type of person so that outrage makes no sense. You think if they catch the guy and he turns out to be a white FAKE neighborhood watch guy like Zimmerman that will change the media attention on this?
How many people were murdered today that the president did not opine on?



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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You seemed to have missed something too.

It wasn't the cops that let him go home, they wanted to arrest him, but the prosecutors wouldn't press charges.

It wasn't the fact that Zimmerman wasn't arrested, it was the fact that the press immediately portrayed him as a white male, killing a black teen, in a white neighborhood, with race as the motivation, but as the story has unfolded, most of those "facts" have been thrown out, and now we see why the prosecutors were reluctant to press charges. Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, he didn't shoot the kid for being black, he shot him because he was being pummelled by him, and he didn't target the kid for being black, he was the neighborhood watch captain, and he knew the kid didn't live in his neighborhood, and in fact he was correct, and the kid was just visiting.

It was a tragedy, Zimmerman should never have let it escalate to that point, the kid should never have attacked, it was a senseless death, but it wasn't the cops fault, and it wasn't what the media portrayed. The media should face charges for any subsequent fallout, because their lies and manipulation of the event is what sparked the outrage.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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You seemed to have missed something too.

It wasn't the cops that let him go home, they wanted to arrest him, but the prosecutors wouldn't press charges.


Please explain how that changes anything about my post.


It wasn't the fact that Zimmerman wasn't arrested, it was the fact that the press immediately portrayed him as a white male, killing a black teen, in a white neighborhood, with race as the motivation, but as the story has unfolded, most of those "facts" have been thrown out, and now we see why the prosecutors were reluctant to press charges.



Not sure what threads you are participating in or what people you are talking to but that sounds like a conversation had at stormfront more than anything I have been involved in. The issue is and has been the killer being let go on his word alone. I knew Zimmerman was Hispanic the first time I heard the story so I am really sorry if your low information meetings lead to angry race rants but that is not what is causing all the outrage. That sure seems to be what some white people want it to be though.


Zimmerman was Hispanic, not white, he didn't shoot the kid for being black, he shot him because he was being pummelled by him,


Oh another one of them eh?
You just make stuff up to make you feel good?
Ok.

I am not going to rehash 250 pages of other threads with you here and since you already stated something as fact you have to make up to begin with, honesty is not your policy here.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
the kid should never have attacked


ATS used to be a place where people tried to stick to facts instead of repeating whatever nonsense they have decided to just glom onto.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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You are right, this thread is about the dead family. And as I said in my earlier post, it is once again an over-sensationalized account to get more readers. You have a tragic family murdered, and they lead with "sexually assaulted."
The press is evil here.

I don't go to any other discussion sites, and I'm not participating in the other Trayvon threads, because most of the people in those threads are like you. They refuse to look at the actual facts, and instead they buy all the sensationalism. My facts on that particular case come from people here in my state and involved in the investigation. As you say, no need to rehash 250 pages of bickering, you'll believe whatever makes your emotions justified, but I'll stick to the known facts and not make any rash judgements.

Just like in this thread, so far, from the single paragraph of information in the article, I'm thinking this was either the kid, or the father, or another close family member, and it was motivated from some sort of jealousy or mental defect. But, that is HUGE speculation, and it might turn out to be completely wrong, and I'm willing to accept the facts as they become available, I won't just stick with the dramatic first headline, or the speculation in my own head.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by Ausar
i heard about this from my bp (black planet) news feed about 3 days ago. why u mention trevon when this is unrelated. atrocious.



The two are not related obviously, but it is "interesting " (if such a word is appropriate) to note the difference in exposure of the two cases- the trevon case even made headline news here in the UK.

It shows that agendas are at work, agendas to divide, even using murders/deaths


It was not Trayvon's death that sparked international outrage.
It was the cops letting his killer go home and go to bed that night just because the killer said the killing was justified.

I am not sure how you people are missing that.



it isn't as simple as that, the race angle is what "sexed" it up, so much so that the POTUS made reference to the race in his "son" reference- THIS was what elevated it beyond other such crimes.

The sole purpose is to divide and conquer, why can't people see that......



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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I am very difficult to anger, but I will say this is one of those things that would make me lash out at a muthaf***a if I caught em doing something this horrible.

I would make a blood transfusion just so the evil son of a b**** would stay alive long enough to feel the pain I would inflict for preying on innocent children.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Let me make a couple things clear here.....

1. Im not an idiot, I get the differences between the two cases. Im not presenting this as if the events should be compared side by side with the treyvon martin case.

2. What I am trying to get across, as some posters have caught on, is the hypocrisy in the media. This brutal murder deserves just as much justice as the treyvon case. And Im sorry folk,s but in the world we live in, more media= better chance at justice. It puts the pressure on the local pd and the DA. (as if theyd need pressure to catch a lunatic like this) But it especially puts the pressure on the local citizens. When the world is watching, even the citizens being aware helps in finding the guy who did it. It opens up possible leads that may not have been there if the case never received any attention.

3. What is truly being asked here is why some cases get national attention and others dont. Its up to us to discuss in a civil manner to try and figure out.

If some of you would rather complain to me that I using gore porn, or I dont belong on ATS with this stuff, you dont have to click the thread. I get it isnt a conspiracy( yet) Perhaps I should have made the 27th thread on how we live in a vitrual reality instead. IS that really the only thing that belongs on here? I didnt post in the general conspiracies forum. I posted it in the news section, which is exactly what this is.

IF the MSM media was shoving this down your throat , you'd accept it on ats, which I find HIGHLY hypocritical.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Its a good point, but I see it exactly the opposite as you. I don't see this as deserving as much attention as the Trayvon case, I see the Trayvon case as being blown out of proportion and neither one deserving any attention.

This happens 47 times per day on average in the US alone! In South Africa a woman is raped every second of every day! Would you really want to see 47 MSM explosions every single day for these issues? Only to find out the majority of them were perpetrated by a family member, or ex-family member?

If there is a serial killer out there targeting strangers..... we need to know. We need to hear about the Zodiac Killers, and the Jeffrey Dahmers, but we don't need to hear about every ex-boyfriend killing his ex, or every twisted kid killing his family, and we don't need to hear about every black that kills a white, or white that kills a black, and if an Hispanic kills someone, we don't need to know if they were legal or illegal.

This story is tragic, but it will likely come out to be one of the children, or an estranged ex-mate, or something.

Just today, here in my little town, we had a murder-suicide of a 50 year old man and woman, and we had a body found in an SUV not far from my house. And it's only lunch time, in my small town.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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I get all that. But we dont know if this is an ex or not. I highly doubt the 9 year old boy did all this, as thats the only sibling who survived (along with the dad)..

But I can tell you, anyone in Vegas should be interested



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Vegas averages 2 murders per week for the past 10 years.
12 rapes per week, almost 2 per day.
151 assaults per week, or 20 per day.
City Data

What makes this case special? The fact that the little girl was sexually assaulted before being bludgeoned? Because the person writing the article seemed to emphasize that fact, but I contend death is worse than assault.

What makes it a little special to me is that the boy went to school? What the hell? His whole family is bludgeoned to death, Dad is critical and hanging on to life, and boy just ignores it, and then heads to school Monday morning?

Still, I think people in Vegas have more important things to worry about than this singlular crime.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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I am sad to hear these stories but... they aren't going to stop.

There is no fear of getting caught and the punishment.

The USA has become a virtural shop, stop and go to abduct women/girls/boys. etc.

Just look in the rest of the news. There was just one the other day from Elko Nevada.... sickening what they did to that young lady... for no reason.

www.lasvegassun.com...

This article doesn't tell how the little sweet teen girl held the girls legs as the the guy butchered the poor thing.

And, she eligable for Parole in 18. A CONFESSED MURDER...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32

3. What is truly being asked here is why some cases get national attention and others dont. Its up to us to discuss in a civil manner to try and figure out.


When the cops find the guy and then let him go because he says he is ok then trust me I will have the same outrage. I think some of you want race issues more than you think.



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