Originally posted by lacrimosa
reply to post by jude11
why would you post such a thread?
ive gotten quite good at ignoring pics on tobacco packets.i dont want to see those pics on my favourite interweb page.
science still hasnt proven any link between smoking and illness, so i want some hoax tags.
I felt better almost immediatly. No more hacking for 15 minutes every morning when I get up. An article I just read on chemical dependancy says I will be fighting this battle for the rest of my life.
And of course there are those that have stated emphatically that they do cause cancer. Many doctors as well.
Originally posted by ArrowsNV
And that is why I switched to using an Electronic cigarette...
Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Yes. I wanna light up right now.
I really do.
I cant though, Im at work.
Let me ask you this.
Do you actually know anyone that has died because of smoking?
I have not. But I know plenty, lots and lots, that have died of cancer.
but not because they smoked. Cancer IMO is gonna get you if you like it or not.
Whers my ciggy!!!!
Originally posted by guavas
reply to post by jude11
Ugh, I don't really like posting in smoking threads..but there are a few things that irk me about the subject.
First, why don't we show the stumps of amputees who've lost limbs from self-induced diabetes, to show the danger of a high-sugar intake diet?
Second, the government taxes the hell out of cigarettes and gives some of it to cancer research - the very same people who tell us to quit.
What would happen if every non-smoker got their wish and every smoker just up and quit tomorrow?
Thirdly, we love to cherry-pick why America is so great and what made it so great, and tobacco played a colossal role in our great nation's past - that's always ignored.
I agree, it's bad for you - very bad, but the problem again, is modernization. Human beings have been smoking tobacco for THOUSANDS of years...the problem is that were living longer, and they're adding chemicals to the tobacco to make them more addictive. If we could get our hands on tobacco the way we did before the industry was hijacked by chemicals, I'd be willing to bet we could put a huge dent in cancer.
This is entirely my opinion.
Originally posted by thebtheb
Cigarettes take WAY too much of the brunt of the whole cancer thing. First off, about 15 years ago, they identified that most of the cancer causing effect of cigarettes came from the additives companies put IN the cigs, particularly one, which was taken out. Since then, sorry - anti smokers - cancer from cigarettes has gone down.
No, I'm not saying cigs aren't bad for you, but there are SOOOOO many things out there that cause cancer and are bad for you, it is ludicrous that cigarettes get labeled the worst. Here in Toronto Canada, the statistics are like this: each year, about 1050 people die from tobacco related causes. And each year, about 960 die from smog related causes. If you think the general air in any major city isn't poisoning you and causing cancer, well, you'd be....wrong.
Cosmetics is a whole other pandora's box. Most cosmetics are hilariously toxic with carcinogens - yes, the stuff you wash your hair with, creams you put on your skin, components of these things are found IN tumours.
And let's not forget the biggest elephant in the room - the food people eat! Why does almost no one know that sugar feeds cancer cells, feeds bad bacteria, feeds viruses? And it's in EVERYTHING and people eat LOTS of it. MSG, additive, pesticides, myriad of chemicals in most stuff from the supermarket. The amount of cancer causing stuff in food is GIGANTIC. And let me tell you - your body will dispose of something smoked a LOT faster than it will of something eaten.
So let me remind everyone that smoking is ONE thing, one thing our of dozens of other things that people do wrong that's bad for their health. Most people probably wouldn't get cancer from smoking if they were healthy to begin with, so quitting smoking might not help everyone that much if they don't clean the rest of their lives up.
Oh and exercise - prevents ALL forms of cancer. Another reason I scoff at the non-smokers who assume they're healthier than I am when they can barely climb a flight of stairs as they chew on a chocolate bar and eat their MSG soup, and go to the doctor for their meds, while I cycle off to the gym to swim, work out and....have a smoke when I'm done!