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COLORS At commands ashore and aboard ships of the Navy not under way, the ceremonial hoisting and lowering of the national flag at 0800 and sunset are known as morning and evening colors. Every Navy shore command, and every ship not under way, performs the ceremony of colors twice a day. You will render honors as follows:
• If you are in ranks, you will be called to attention or order arms.
• If you are in uniform but not in ranks, face the colors and give the hand salute.
• If you are driving a vehicle, stop and sit at attention but do not salute.
• If you are a passenger in a boat, remain at attention, seated or standing. The boat officer or coxswain salutes for the boat.
• If you are in civilian clothes or athletic uniform, face the colors at attention and salute by placing your right hand over your heart.
Aboard Navy ships or naval shore activities, when the national ensign is hoisted and lowered or half-masted for any occasion, the motions of the senior officer present are followed. Five minutes before morning and evening colors, the PREPARATIVE
Originally posted by seabag
The kids in the video performed the ceremony of colors. They did so NOT because they were told to or because they are brainwashed.
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by seabag
Well, for one I don't see how patriotism (in its truest sense) has anything to do with what we are seeing in the video. IMHO what we are seeing in the video is training, drilling and indoctrination of very young children. Others mileage may vary considerably though.
We're allowed to have differing opinions here, and thats mine.
To me, a non-american, they look very brainwashed indeed.
You'd also think the same if this video was of North Korean, Chinese or ( insert other country name here's) kids.
"Brainwashed" would be the very first word you'd think of.
But you dont, because they're your own. Thats the only difference.
They look pretty brainwashed to me.
Looks like something out of North Korea. I never got why schools forced children to site the pledge of allegiance. It always creeped me out, I stopped saying it in the 8th grade.
Well, firstly being able to recognise a particular song (melody?) and react to it in a certain way other than by dancing or putting fingers in ears is not a particularly child-like thing to do in a non-ceremonial type setting. I mean, they are kids, all playing happily away in the playground and then TA-DA....I could understand maybe if it was the call to dinner, wash hands, etc but it is just a pointless display of nothing much at all. You asked for opinions, there are many on ATS.
As for taught vs learned.They had to see it somewhere and know "what to do" but I'll leave that one alone.
I would like to hear why you think standing still while listening to a piece of music is in any way patriotic though. I mean, what does it achieve? Social harmony? Nope. Financial stability? Nope. A feel good exercise? Hmmm....
Originally posted by seabag
(Video Explanation) The kids in the video performed the ceremony of colors. They did so NOT because they were told to or because they are brainwashed. These kids did so innocently on their own because it’s what they know….it’s their environment….it’s their PATRIOTISM. They are paying respect to America’s ‘colors’ as their parents do.
1. Pledging allegiance has nothing to do with pride
2. I've been a history nerd for years, probably why I had enough political consciousness to stop saying the pledge in the 8th grade
3. Pride is stupid, I had no choice to be born here, it was a geographical accident.
4. The pledge was written by a Christian socialist
5. I'm not pledging allegiance to a country that tortures people, has awful foreign policy, and doesn't think twice to invade another country.
6. Taking pride in something that you didn't accomplish is non-nonsensical
I hear and disagree with just about everything you say but can also see that there is little to be gained for either of us in further discussion so I will just wish you well with your thread and politely bow out.
Originally posted by seabag
You’re a self-described “Englishman in the Netherlands” so I don’t expect you to understand American patriotism….it’s a cultural thing. No worries!
Umm, they are kids emulating what they see.
I think one can argue thats brainwashing.
Your speculation into the intent, is just that