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The Ancients, The Great Year and a Brown Dwarf!? [DOCUMENTARY]

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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:37 PM
Hi everyone.

I came across this video on youtube the other day and thought that you may enjoy it.

The Great Year is a compelling documentary that explores the possibility that the fall of ancient civilizations around the globe, and the rise of modern civilization, might be related to our Sun's motion around a companion star. The film examines evidence that ancient civilizations may have known of this celestial cycle and that our Sun may indeed display the characteristics of binary motion.

It has a lot of information that I'm sure most of you will be aware of (considering that this is ATS!) but sharing is caring, right?

The title, The Great Year, refers to one complete cycle of the precession of the equinoxes; approximately 25,800 years. The documentary explores the theory that the precession of the equinoxes is linked to the Yugas (cycles) written about in the Hindu Vedic writings.

The video then discusses how, apparently, ancient civilisations and modern science are pointing to the theory that we are in a Binary solar system i.e. a system with two stars. One is our sun and the other is likely to be a Brown Dwarf or something similar...

I found it pretty interesting even though I'm not sold on the whole idea.

Also, it is narrated by Darth Vader himself... James Earl Jones.

What are your thoughts?


edit on 19-4-2012 by NeverAcquiesce because: of the force

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:05 PM
My people are just returning to set some things straight. No worries.

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:18 PM
Nasa left us hanging for about a year now regarding Tyche and the possibility of a brown dwarf in our outer solar/oort cloud.

thx for the vid will watch...

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:19 PM
I've seen this documentary before, if i'm not mistaken it's narrated by James Earl Jones (you know... Darth frickin' Vader) and it raises some very interesting points.

It proposes that our star system is a binary star system, not unlikely since most star systems out there are in fact binary. Furthermore it examines the possible correlation between the rise and fall of ancient civilizations and our Sun's relation with its binary companion, and that these civilazations had knowledge of this cycle.

I certainly recommend watching this!!

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:22 PM
reply to post by Q2IN2Y

Maybe it will push us into a new stage of enlightenment. A new way of thinking.

Unless it's the Death Star.

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:30 PM
I have heard various theories regarding why the precession of the equinoxes occurs but idea that it is caused by our sun's orbit around a dwarf star has to be one of my favourites. Maybe because I love Sci-Fi.

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:51 PM
Still watching. . . Will Edit this post with my thoughts when done watching and once I get some food.

Edit: Just finished watching it and it was pretty interesting. Nothing much for hard facts but it brings up a few cool ideas. Some of which I already knew. I did learn a couple new things about the long year which i thought was cool. It certainly is possible that civilizations rise and fall according to this cycle. If our companion is a brown dwarf then some people believe that it can emit high levels of radiation (explanation to chem-trails perhaps? Are our governments acting like total dicks so they can preserve humanity at all costs?) Definitely gives some food for thought. Thanks for the video link

Oh. the only downside to this video is its mildly hypnotic music. I didn't mind it too much. . . yes master. . . understood master I shall obey your. . .
edit on 19-4-2012 by Zygonator because: Finished Video so now for some thoughts.

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:53 PM
I've found the Brown Dwarf!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 05:59 PM
Thanks NeverAcquiesce, Nothing really new there for me but I enjoyed the vid immensely. Just wondering when they talk of civilisations falling according to celestial phases, is it due to climatic natural disasters (earthquakes, climate change etc) brought about by the influence of another celestial body on the earth or are they alluding to a change in mindset of humanity. An intellectual leap of evolution so to speak. They seem to imply that the enlightenment and the great surge in discoveries in the second half of the last millennium were as a result of the emergence into a new age.
Could mankind's new age of enlightenment be triggered by wiping out most of humanity and leaving only a handful of intelligent compassionate humans (ATS members
) to repopulate or will there be a metaphysical awakening for all.
Either way mankind really needs a reboot.

Edit:. I really found the animation of the binary suns hypnotically captivating, really brings it home how amazing it is that we are all here standing on this spinning rock hurtling through a vast cosmos without any clue how and why. So sad that so many people spend their time on Earth being a**holes causing pain suffering and misery for others. Sigh, Humans Eh?
edit on 19-4-2012 by HumansEh because: as described

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 06:26 PM
I just finished watching the video and I was mesmerized to say the least, I wish I knew more about this stuff, but don't get me wrong here.
I am firmly on board with the crew that believes we have been more or less wiped out on a regular basis.
Great Thread and Video.
Regards, Iwinder

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 06:27 PM
reply to post by HumansEh

Thanks HumansEh.

There's definitely something humbling about watching the Earth orbit the sun, whether it is animation or otherwise. It makes me think "is that all we are?". Our planet is nothing when you think of the universe as a whole and a single life seems like nothing when you think of the world as a whole.

Are we just a glitch in an accidental universe? It's too much to try and comprehend!

I'm not sure why the rise and fall of civilisation is linked with the stages. Maybe the stages do not necessarily dictate what humans will do and when. Maybe the stages are an example of the predictability of human kind. We get to the stage where we think we know everything there is to know and it begins our down fall.

Only time will tell

posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 06:33 PM
reply to post by Iwinder

Same, I have a strong believe that this is not the first rise of human kind, and I doubt it will be the last.

It's like how natural forest fires reduce everything to nothing in no time at all; but at the same time it makes the perfect conditions for it all to start again.

Beauty of life.

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:16 AM
Wow. This was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. Everything was so very well put.

So anybody can link me to more competent documentaries like this one? Most of the recent documentaries are jokes and are more confusing than revealing. And yes, that includes Ancient Aliens too.

Thanks, ATS ! Looking forward to get more knowledge.

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 01:49 PM
reply to post by Alexander382

Glad you liked it!

I know what you mean about some of today's documentaries. There are some really interesting ones out there but it is a little difficult finding them.

I liked Graham Handcock's Underworld series where he looked for the flooded kingdoms of the last ice age. I'm aware that he gets mixed reviews here at ATS, but each to their own. I for one find his stuff pretty interesting.

Good luck in your hunt for good documentaries, and if you find any please be sure to share.

edit on 20-4-2012 by NeverAcquiesce because: the voices made me

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 03:45 PM
reply to post by NeverAcquiesce

I'm posting this before watching the video... just to let you know that I'm watching it based soley on the fact that it's narrated by JEJ.

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:48 PM

Originally posted by BiggerPicture
Nasa left us hanging for about a year now regarding Tyche and the possibility of a brown dwarf in our outer solar/oort cloud.

thx for the vid will watch...

Interesting video, I enjoyed watching it, thanks for posting.

As for Tyche: the news about it is still over a year old, however, if you read what they said, it could be years before anything is confirmed or not:

Q: When could data from WISE confirm or rule out the existence of the hypothesized planet Tyche?

A: It is too early to know whether WISE data confirms or rules out a large object in the Oort cloud. Analysis over the next couple of years will be needed to determine if WISE has actually detected such a world or not. The first 14 weeks of data, being released in April 2011, are unlikely to be sufficient. The full survey, scheduled for release in March 2012, should provide greater insight. Once the WISE data are fully processed, released and analyzed, the Tyche hypothesis that Matese and Whitmire propose will be tested.

Can WISE Find The Hypothetical Tyche?

Keep in mind it can take several years of observation to confirm motion of a object, especially a distant object with a long period orbit.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:38 PM
reply to post by NeverAcquiesce

Haven't watched the documentary yet, but I have a few comments based on your summary. While some believe that a complete Yuga cycle is 24,000 years and could be tied to the precession of the equinoxes the vast majority of experts on the topic support the belief that a full cycles takes millions of years. Now despite this there are theories that say the Earth's climate is in part due to precession. This is known a the Milankovitch cycle. However, it is not just based on precession but axial tilt and eccentricity. These things are not caused by a companion star though. For example, precession is caused by competing tidal forces from the Sun and Moon.

I also saw someone mention that multistar systems are the norm. This is not true for our position in the galaxy. Most systems around us only have a single star. It is also worth mentioning that if yellow dwarfs (our Sun's classification) are in a multistar system they are much more likely to be paired with another yellow dwarf. So it would be exceedingly rare for our Sun to not only have a companion but then to have that companion be a brown dwarf. Of course if our Sun did have a brown dwarf as a companion there is no reason for us to have not found it yet.

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 07:30 PM
reply to post by Xcalibur254

You know, I always thought that disinfo agents on ATS was just a silly idea. But after reading your posts and seeing that you are always "anti-conspiracy" I guess you might say, no matter the subject of the thread, I am starting to think maybe there are. Why else would you be on a site like ATS if all is exactly as it seems in the world to you?

Anyways, I thought the video was very interesting. Thank you for posting OP. I'm not sure if I believe in the binary system idea, but I do believe the Mayans, Aztecs, Egyptians, etc. when they speak of cycles for humanity coming and going as the seasons. Kinda like the Cylons in BSG said, "All this has happened before, and it will happen again."

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:16 PM
reply to post by Xcalibur254

Actually, I would HIGHLY recommend you watch the video before commenting any further. This is not a "The Mayans and 2012" video. Nor is it a video on "Planet BooBoo".

It's actually a well presented video and asks some very serious questions.


It is thought our galaxy consists of 1/3 binary or multiple systems.

Binary Systems

the 2 closest systems to Sol (our sun) are both multiple systems:

Sirius at 8.6 light years away and Alpha Centauri at 4.3 light years away.


Brown dwarfs most certainly can orbit another star: LHS 2397a.

Stellar evolution theory does not prohibit this, nor does it demand that a companion start must be the same color or size as the parent start (where in the world did you get that from?).


While you are correct, and actual star would have been spotted a long time ago, and a large brown dwarf start orbiting very close could also have been spotted a long time ago, a smaller, faint brown dwarf would not be that easy to spot. Especially if it's orbital period is 26,000 years to a million years at over 100 AU away. That's why I posted about Tyche, NASA themselves said that it will take a long time of observational data to see what it is, and where it's going, etc. So don't speak in absolutes on this subject, when even main stream astronomers have said it's possible.

posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:42 PM
reply to post by eriktheawful

Give me a few days and I'll see if I can turn up the papers I'm referring to. I know at least both I and Phage have cited them in the past. It should be noted though that I'm not saying that stars of one classification can't be paired with stars of another classification. What I'm saying is that yellow dwarfs are almost always paired with other yellow dwarfs. It would be an anomaly for one to be paired with something else.

Regarding Tyche, it would not be a brown dwarf. It would be a gas giant. Matese and Whitmire proposed Nemesis as a brown dwarf but abandoned it when the science didn't pan out. Also, whole sky surveys require any Jupiter sized planets to be several hundred AUs out and stars to be even further. Unfortunately I don't have the exact numbers on me right now but they're mentioned in a number of threads on here.

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