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Revealed - The TRUE Biblical Geneology

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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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OEC / YEC....

Can someone help me out with the achronyms please?
Others I have also seen but don't understand their meaning:
GWT , JOSC (or something like that..referring to the judgment)

The Bible translation achronyms I understand (e.g. KJV, NIV, etc)....
and the Q and P texts, also.

but OEC/ YEC, GWT, JOSC ?


OEC = Old Earth Creationist (God needed Evolution)
YEC = Young Earth Creationist (Biblical Creationism)
GWTJ = Great White Throne Judgment (1,000 years after Christ's 2nd coming, on Earth, for the damned and those who were born and lived through the millennium)
S+GJ = Sheep and Goats Judgment (Immediately after the 2nd coming of Christ, those with the mark of the beast and those who persecuted Israel will immediately be cast to Hell, and will not enter the Millennium)
JSOC = Judgment Seat of Christ (In heaven for believers, it's to judge our faithfulness and service for His kingdom, rewards will be won or lost)


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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Where do you get the authority to change the word "Adam" in Genesis 5:2 to "mankind" as you did? If we start changing words to fit your theology, then yes, anything could be possible to form new doctrine. But if we leave the words alone and trust God who promised to preserve them, then we fall under God's authority.

P.s. I believe God when He said people lived 900+ years back before the flood. Its not to hard to believe considering all the other miracles in the Bible that make living long look like child's play.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
Where do you get the authority to change the word "Adam" in Genesis 5:2 to "mankind" as you did? If we start changing words to fit your theology, then yes, anything could be possible to form new doctrine. But if we leave the words alone and trust God who promised to preserve them, then we fall under God's authority.

P.s. I believe God when He said people lived 900+ years back before the flood. Its not to hard to believe considering all the other miracles in the Bible that make living long look like child's play.


Back off, he's a babe in Christ still trying to iron out his theology, I'm talking to him via u2u. New converts are not heretics if they mess things up at first in the process of discipleship. Do you ever speak in the spirit of Ephesians 4:15?



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Back off, he's a babe in Christ still trying to iron out his theology, I'm talking to him via u2u. New converts are not heretics if they mess things up at first in the process of discipleship. Do you ever speak in the spirit of Ephesians 4:15?


It's all good. First thing I tell new Christians is to GET CHRISTIAN FRIENDS. Time to separate yourself from the Old and begin a New life. That's always the biggest hurdle I've come to find with the majority. So easy to get back into your old ways, even if you feel "on fire" for Christ.

Of course, I could be wrong. I should say, of the majority I work with, that is the issue.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
This is a digital simulation, comprised of indivisible "digits". That coupled with the aspects of Entropy means this "reality" is a sub-set to a much larger analog reality. That analog reality, the spiritual world, is more real, it's not DIGITAL!

Glory to God.
How do you know they're not both digital?


Entropy. For the constants of physics to be slowing down the implication is that we live in a sub-set of a larger "reality". Muti-verse theory. This gets really crazy, but when you're dealing with Plank's length anything smaller than that micro-threshold instantaneously is everywhere in the universe simultaneously. The particle looses locality.


Then your speaking of the 'God' particle, omnipresent... the Tachyon?..?

By the way OP, you sort of lost me right from the get-go with this somewhat alternate reading. It was hard to understand.... I'm trying to keep an open mind.....it's difficult, I'm sincere here not making jest.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
Where do you get the authority to change the word "Adam" in Genesis 5:2 to "mankind" as you did? If we start changing words to fit your theology, then yes, anything could be possible to form new doctrine. But if we leave the words alone and trust God who promised to preserve them, then we fall under God's authority.

P.s. I believe God when He said people lived 900+ years back before the flood. Its not to hard to believe considering all the other miracles in the Bible that make living long look like child's play.
edit on 20-4-2012 by KJV1611 because: i can


I'm leaning your way KJV1611. I also think that the interpretation is faulty, but I want to try to understand the premise ? It just isn't jelling for me...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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1) We know a global flood never happened.
2) We know that at no point there were only 2 humans.

In short, if you take Genesis literally, you can be easily proven wrong.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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The problem I see is if you make the Bible into an allegorical story thread, you run the risk of conforming the Bible to your own sinfulness and wickedness. The Bible is literal. There's nothing to be afraid of in that.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
1) We know a global flood never happened.
2) We know that at no point there were only 2 humans.

In short, if you take Genesis literally, you can be easily proven wrong.
This is absurd. how has this been proven wrong? If it's easy, please explain yourself.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
1) We know a global flood never happened.
2) We know that at no point there were only 2 humans.

In short, if you take Genesis literally, you can be easily proven wrong.


Really? The evidence for Noah's Ark is pretty darn strong.

www.arkdiscovery.com...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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It says it the Bible, blatantly, that know man. NO MAN. May know the will of god.

So I guess it's just you talking, and not god.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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According to the book you believe, of course.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by addygrace

Originally posted by MrXYZ
1) We know a global flood never happened.
2) We know that at no point there were only 2 humans.

In short, if you take Genesis literally, you can be easily proven wrong.
This is absurd. how has this been proven wrong? If it's easy, please explain yourself.


Yes, explain, and also stop saying "we", you're not a scientist. You never have been one, you never will be one.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Iason321
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It comes from the God who directed it all.

This entire experiment, from beginning to end, and he's been communicating with us since day one, but people fail to listen.....

This earth and reality is but a simulation in the mind of God, and to truly know the mind of God we must be present with God (which will not happen in this lifetime), Paradise is much realer than this reality and than most people think.....


You're trying to use faith in God as proof?

Sorry, but we need a bit more than that here at ATS !



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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All interpretations are faulty, because all interpretations made on the bible are interpretations of interpretations, since Paul/Saul wrote the first book 30 - 80 years after Christ died and all other books were based off of his.

Little extra info - Paul actually said Jesus never lived on Earth in the original version, in fact, he didn't even claim that Jesus was a human.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by 4REVOLUTION

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Back off, he's a babe in Christ still trying to iron out his theology, I'm talking to him via u2u. New converts are not heretics if they mess things up at first in the process of discipleship. Do you ever speak in the spirit of Ephesians 4:15?


It's all good. First thing I tell new Christians is to GET CHRISTIAN FRIENDS. Time to separate yourself from the Old and begin a New life. That's always the biggest hurdle I've come to find with the majority. So easy to get back into your old ways, even if you feel "on fire" for Christ.

Of course, I could be wrong. I should say, of the majority I work with, that is the issue.


I just get righteous anger going when mature Christians attack new converts for getting something wrong that they themselves conquered a while ago. Babes in Christ ironing out their doctrines the first time aren't heretics. They are just babes feeding on milk at this point. They need discipled not rebuked. So my anger is righteous, don't worry though I won't go to sleep on it. LOL



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Wrong

On

Every

Level



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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I think I'm done with this topic, it's stirring up a lot of controversy and I am not trying to argue or cause strife with anyone.....

Honestly, what difference does it make how someone interprets the first 6 chapters of Genesis, as long as they believe every word of it and adhere to the commandments and wholeheartedly believe in the NT, (well, I also believe in the OT)

I will repeat again to anyone calling me a heretic or anything -

I believe every single word of the Holy Bible to be the Divinely Inspired Word of God,

I do believe our interpretations of the text are evolving as our scientific knowledge evolves,

and I do NOT believe science, evolution, or darwins theory are at odds with the Bible, only with a very literal interpretation,

But, as I stated, I'm done arguing that point.....for now......


I am in the process now of making a thread on the religious forum about Biblical Hermeneutics and the Literal vs Allegorical interpretations and also I'm going to point out some flaws in the KJV translation and hopefully try to solve some issues.....

If I am labeled a heretic or blasphemer on my endeavors for ultimate truth and knowledge, than so be it.

Many of the leading Christian thinkers before me were labeled heretics in their days too.....



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by thegagefather
All interpretations are faulty, because all interpretations made on the bible are interpretations of interpretations, since Paul/Saul wrote the first book 30 - 80 years after Christ died and all other books were based off of his.

Little extra info - Paul actually said Jesus never lived on Earth in the original version, in fact, he didn't even claim that Jesus was a human.


Paul was decapitated in Rome 25 years after Christ died. Nero had him and Peter martyred. Go Google when Nero ruled Rome.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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You can believe whatever you want...



Just hope you're right with the Lord when he makes his return, or your body dies... whichever is first!



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