We live in an control grid, if there is resistance the system has people who are willing to go to the greatest lengths at stopping that resistance.
(Police officers, military etc.) If there would be any successful resistance it would have to include the majority of U.S. citizens, but that wont
happen, to many people are in a comfort zone and lack the proper knowlege, also there is a huge dependancy in this country on its government. How many
do you think would give up their weekend fishing trips or Lady gaga concerts or fast food meals (just to name of few) to mount a resistance, because
as soon as a revolt occurs everything everyone enjoys would stop. If the control grid malfunctions it would come to a grinding halt, martial law, 6pm
curfew, no cars on the street, severe restrictions. Urban assault vehicles on every corner, Helicopter flyovers with FLIR on patrol, mass arrests and
mass deaths. The administrators of the grid have powerful resources to clamp down on anything. Im not saying its not possible to change things, but
Im not foolish as to know what it would actually take do under go such a task.
edit on 20-4-2012 by imagineering because: (no reason given)
I do agree with you that we are in a control grid now and when the real American austerity measures kick in there will be rioting in the streets! Then
the New America Civil War to overthrow the corporate ruling class and take back our country!
I laugh at people who scream about food stamps while many depend on "mortgage tax relief" to be able to afford a home! End all tax breaks.... by 2022
the interest payment will be the size of the Pentagon budget ...where will the money come from?
edit on 20-4-2012 by fnpmitchreturns because:
I have never foed anyone on ATS before but with your heartless statement, the guy has a son with a liver problem..........HELLO AH your reply makes me
think you are one of those bankers, CEO's or some other snake in a suit.
The banks, military and corporations are dragging the middle class down like a boulder tied to a child's ankle in a deep lake.
Don't worry, even if you are a shrill or someone of "importance" now, you will end up getting yours.
What goes around comes around.
Anyone with a little kid that has a life or death situation, the medical professionals know they have you by the gonads and they will squeeze every
last dime out of you.
And you say, pay your bills.
If the opening ATS Member says he has a kid with a bad liver, medical care is expensive and we have close to 45 million people with no health
insurance in America.
And having worked for a insurance based company for 16 years (then my job was given away to someone in India) - these insurance companies will get out
of paying anything they can.
Only the rich can afford justice and health in America now.
I'm calling your remark cruel.
edit on 20-4-2012 by ofhumandescent because: (no reason given)
You said it in your quote"nice guys finish last" in your case nice families finish last.I went through this with a house I built in 1997
through a company that was a compleat scam, after I built it the scam kicked in. Anyway my point being is you have to research and educate yourself to
the way of things, you have to become the system to understand the system and beat it or the very least brake even and keep what ever the corrupt
syatem is trying to take from you, like I finally did.
Consult lawyers, not just one but two or three and they will give you directions to go in order to do the reasearch yourself. Saves time and money but
most of all it empowers you with all that you will learn, even if you loose this one you will never let it happen to you and your family
again.......................hope your child is doing OK, good luck!!
Many of the middle class I talked to at the homeless shelter ended up there because of "medical issues" insurance would not cover.
Now folks, start researching the medical and retirement package our Congress and Senate here in America have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELLO ANYBODY OUT THERE!
One one hand I do not want the government meddling in my medical care, but on the other hand, we do need
--- Straight tax system with no loop holes
--- Corporations that out source need to be taxed double and half of that go back to the people they took their job away from
--- We need exactly the same benefits as our Congress and Senate enjoy medically and retirement wise.
Who in the frig works for who?
My Congressman always signs his e-mails, "I work for you"..............BS
We have spent so friggin much money bailing out the banks and making the military rich (war, war and more wars) that we could have used all that money
to feed, educate, clothe and house every single person in America.
But, until the people get really angry and start to really protest drastically this kind of $&|# will continue and get worse.
The middle class is systematically being dismantled.
We only owe a few thousand on our home with Wells Fargo, it has over an acre lot with is worth the balance of the mortgage.
We tried to get it refinanced because we sorta KNEW hubby, working in the housing industry, was probably going to be unemployed soon. We wanted to
make sure we could afford it on what I could bring in.
They jerked us around every which way but kingdom come, and finally denied our mortgage attempt based on the fact that 'cash is not an asset.' A
few months later, he did lose his job.
If we lose this house with just a few thousand left, I am going to be so mad at the govt and banks that it isn't funny.
My wife has expressed a willingness to conduct a protest and endure the scrutiny and backlash. We are talking about threatening the most powerful
institutions in america. Imagine if we could help other people by bringing attention to the facts:
1. The Fed is privately owned.
2. All other banks are simply and legally, agents for the Fed.
3. The Fed does not react to financial cycles but does in fact CREATE them for the sole purpose of aggregating wealth. The effects are obvious and
concur exactly with Jefferson's warnings.
4. There is a difference between Natural Law, Common Law and Admiralty Law.
The last one is a topic that I have only begun to understand. I could use a little help with the dates and implications of changes to the law.
If anybody has suggestions on the best way to maximize coverage, please tell.
Get a lawyer.. contact your local representatives.. call your congressman, assembly man .. goveners office.. even presidents office. Call the news
stations. Make a pain in the butt of yourself and you should get some one to help you
make sure you call the mortgage company disputing the debt (forces a freeze to my understanding) Record the conversation
Make sure you start... i mean continue...
making payments during this time of dispute... game theory warns you they will badger and threaten...
(run the dispute part past the legal aide... might give you basis for the injunction...)
see if you can get the court to force mediation...(legal aide )
but it is a must that all three credit reporting companies get notified of the fraud... the sop is to my understanding is that the company has to stop
all collection efforts during the next thirty days while they respond and by law you have x days to respond
discuss this with legal aide
attempt to move it out of foreclosure
turning it into a debt dispute
any moves period on their part other then negotiating
-- injunction with a request for relief and potential mediation
ask over making payments during this part or if you can with legal aides help set up a protest non-payment account (legal aide will understand- like a
rent protest- the money is there but the bank cant get it )
be prepared to lose-
but it will give you the most upsetting advantage (you do not give a rats arse )
I used this technique for a friend of mine and it work... mind you it was over a fifty thousand dollar debt... but I think that the Fair debt
collection act can actively be used against a foreclosure... check with legal aide
Same thing happened to us. Chase Mtg told us to apply for "re-modification" due to my husband's hours being cut on a long term basis. Started the
process and at first they lost all our paper work, had to do it again. Mind you, this is not simple paperwork they want. It is loaded with page after
page of bullcrap of this and that.
Next , they claimed we never returned phone calls to them (not true!) and we had to do it a second time. Finally they said, on the third time, "we
can modify your mortgage, but your payments would be HIGHER!' What??/
We lost our home. The mortgage companies were given billions in tax payers money to provide relief for home owners in trouble. Yet time after time
they just won't do it. Criminals, everyone of them.
Anyway, we moved, found a small place in the country that we rent, and surpringly are much more at peace. Take heart, friend, this too shall pass.
PS- Did you know in most states you have a "right to redemption?" That means for about one year they can do nothing with your house, but sit on it.
You have to pay the whole thing off, but lots can happen in a year.
Yea, this is what pisses me off the most.
These cockroaches get bailed out with OUR money while everyone else suffers.
Twas the plan all along since the majority of politicians hail from Financial institutions, Wall Street or Large Corporations.
They had their ducks in a row to commit their financial terrorism on the population.
The biggest enemy of this country is not some far away country like Iran, North Korea etc, but are the politicians and bankers and they should be
tried for financial terrorism by the people of this country, and if need be an outside party such as another country.
If we're quoting motivational Star Trek videos, here's my suggestion. The Klingon anthem.
Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam. If they really have backed you into a corner, and you have nowhere else to go, then in a very real sense, they have put
themselves at a disadvantage. Desperation can be a tremendous motivator. One of Sun Tzu's maxims was to never attack anyone on their home ground,
because he knew how much more effectively they would fight.
If you are going to do this, then in metaphoric PR terms at least, make them bleed. Get the media involved, get Occupy involved, and make sure
everyone hears about it. Make sure everyone learns just what amoral, parasitic scum they really are.
Their law is no law. Do not be bound by it, but use it as a weapon against them. They will duck and weave and write it and re-write it as they see
fit, and that is how you can know, more than any other way, that it is no true law at all, because it does not bind them, and it does not stay
You might still lose the house, but at that point, it is not about keeping it or losing it. It is about maximising the amount of pain that they will
experience, while taking it from you.
edit on 20-4-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)
I was thinking the same thing. What is a dollar? If this guy could set up a Paypal account on line and let us know, and maybe offer some corroborating
evidence for any people who are skeptical about such things, then surely many hundreds of us would give a dollar. It's just a dollar for pete's
sake, but they all add up.
I'm sick and tired of people like you that brings in moral convictions such as "You signed the agreement" stick to it.
If morals and virtues were under trial then I can think of better places to start such as the banker politicians and wall street bankers that first
need to be held to account, where they created their own laws and rules to steal from the American people.
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