First off I just want to say thank you, you have made a VERY strong example of just how fooled we all are when it comes to the "law" and "statutes"
and so on and so forth. Now I am not exactly a law guru so to speak but I get the jist of where you are going and you even mentioned the freeman on
the land concept, which I have looked into and tried to make sense of just what it is to be truly free. Most of you questions can be answered by
understanding just what jurisdiction is. There are many forms of jurisdiction.
When you are born you are given an identity that is recorded. That identity whenever it associates itself inside of a society immediately comes under
it's jurisdiction. This could mean driving around on the roads, you have geographical jurisdiction (the road) lets say it is in America, you drive on
an American road you must abide by American traffic laws, but remember the association isn't necessarily your physical body, it is your identity. If
they cannot identify you within the time frame that their jurisdiction allows then they must release you. So say you are riding around in a car that
is not registered within any American database as a "motor vehicle" then it technically isn't a motor vehicle so say you get pulled over, they cannot
identify the car and say you do not have any way of being identified if they arrest you, you will be held for 72 hours by American law and then they
must release you.
Jurisdiction is what pulls you into "the law" wherever you are. Now you must understand you only have the true right to be inside of a country
(geographical jurisdiction) if you were born there, or go through the usual means (passport etc, whatever that countries laws are). Say you were born
in America and you have NON STATE ISSUED identity, meaning it is not the identity that THE STATE gave you but YOUR PARENTS gave you, say a hospital
record of your birth, NOT THE STATE ISSUED BIRTH CERTIFICATE, then you identify yourself as a National of America, not a citizen, see how it works?
Truly being free means you detach yourself from the Citizen and become the National, sorry if I am being confusing.
The tricky thing is when it actually comes to the courts, say you get a ticket and MUST APPEAR, if you show up and walk up to the table and say on the
record that you are FIRST MIDDLE LAST name then they on the record now have you in their jurisdiction because you identified yourself as a citizen's
name attaching the body to the name, and you are now under that citizens limits, meaning all laws even small stupid statutes that bring nothing but
state revenue like seat-belt tickets.
Say you get the ticket and you MUST APPEAR, if you don't sure they will issue a warrant, but that only applies to the citizen not your body, if you
never identify yourself as the citizen then they can never arrest you under that warrant because you are not FIRST MIDDLE LAST, you are just a man
Now say a cop sees you murder someone, if you are withing a geographical jurisdiction then you can bet you will be arrested. However think about it,
if you cannot be identified, then who will they charge? Who will they record the court hearing with? They have no clue who you are. What language you
speak. Where you are from. Granted murder is a big deal, and I understand there are areas in the world where they freely execute people, but think
about it, would someone from that area who does that sort of thing, have a random cop walking up on them? I understand where you are coming from
however MURDER is a defined crime meaning certain aspects must be met for it to be murder. Usually premeditation and other things. Now granted as far
back as most true LAW goes (magna-carta, etc) murder is unlawful period, now certain areas of the world have extended that simple concept into
statutory definitions. So a cop sees you murder someone, and he may or may not know who or where you are from, being in his jurisdiction gives him the
right to stop you, and arrest you, NOW think about this, if someone was simply doing an execution, do you think they are going to SURRENDER their body
to an alien person for no reason? Most likely not, they will fight for THEIR own jurisdiction.
I know this answer may not exactly be simple to understand but just try to remember, the odds of a cop in America just walking up on an unidentified
tribe is rather slim, other areas in the world maybe, but in areas where there may be unidentified tribes around the world, most likely dont have
officers just cruising around to maintain the peace. In America wo have "Indian Reservations" (go figure that one...) from what I understand no
government has any authority within those actual geographic locations. Granted that whole issue is crap, how can we show up slaughter and then go hey
we'll "give you" some land to have. BS but that is another thread.
Sorry I know this is hard to get but hopefully it helps. If you have any more questions or whatever just holler, lol.
Ok so rereading I noticed my response was pretty basic.
Just remember your born you are given an identity that must follow the countries laws it is a citizen of. If you go to another country and take your
identity (citizen) and go through customs and the government of that country gives you (citizen) permission to visit, you now and alien to that
country on a visa, which means you (citizen) must now follow all that countries laws while you visit, if you don't and are caught and identified, then
you cannot be prosecuted in that country because you are not a citizen, you will be deported to you home country and THEN executed under its laws
because they apply to you (citizen).
edit on 19-4-2012 by guesswhoyouknew because: Clarification