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Gallup Poll : Romney 48% Obama 43% - 3 Scandals Take Toll

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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
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So according to your "logic", if the employ of a company murders someone, the CEO is automatically responsible...because after all, it happened under his watch, right?




Have you ever heard of the saying " The buck stops here." ?

Obama is viewed as the CEO of America.

Have you noticed that when bad incidents occur in Afghanistan that Obama swings

into damage control mode?

That's because it is happening on his watch.




posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


So according to your "logic", if the employ of a company murders someone, the CEO is automatically responsible...because after all, it happened under his watch, right?




Have you ever heard of the saying " The buck stops here." ?

Obama is viewed as the CEO of America.

Have you noticed that when bad incidents occur in Afghanistan that Obama swings

into damage control mode?

That's because it is happening on his watch.


That's because it's the president's JOB, he represents the country! That doesn't automatically mean he's directly responsible for everything that happens while he's president. This might come as a newsflash to you, but the president isn't actually doing everything or controlling everything


If an employee of Walmart kills a co-worker at work with one of their shovels, the CEO of Walmart won't have to fear to go to jail over it. Yes, the company he leads sold the shovel that killed the employee, and yes, the killer was "under his watch", but he ISN'T responsible for that murder. It's common sense...try it



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by HumansBeing
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Can you remind me what happened on the watch of the last GOP president?

9/11
Tax Breaks unpaid for
2 unpaid wars
No Child Left Behind

Lets compair your list and my list and see which ones were more detrimental to our country?


That's the past.

We are talking about the present.

There is a cancer growing on the Obama administration. --- The GSA Scandal ---

Inspector General Brian Miller has already found some illegalities.

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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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The Bush Tax Breaks, the Afgan War, and No Child Left Behind are not in the past!!! We are still paying for, and dealing with these insane policies. And you want to hand the reigns back to the GOP?



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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What I think is hilarious is that the GOP dismissed the Buffet rule saying it's a "small amount not worth the hassle" even though it would have netted around $50b...yet the $800k GSA scandal (which Obama had no involvement in, he doesn't review their exact budget!!!) sends them into rage mode


Hypocrites much?


What about Bush's housing speech serving as the final nail in the coffin of the US economy? That was also WAY more costly.

Fact is, both parties and their members are messing up. You have to ask yourself, what's hurting the US citizens more. I'd argue the housing speech hurt more people than the $800k GSA scandal (which was a stupid thing). Playing this "only my party is good, and only the others mess up" game is incredibly silly.

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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by HumansBeing
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


The Bush Tax Breaks, the Afgan War, and No Child Left Behind are not in the past!!! We are still paying for, and dealing with these insane policies. And you want to hand the reigns back to the GOP?



Yes, the future of the nation depends on it.

We will -- reduce -- the size of government in order to help balance the budget.

We have a new poster boy to help us achieve that goal.

Government Gone Wild - Left Wing Loon - Jeffrey Neely




posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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LOL... Right! Since when is 50 Billion dollars not much money.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by HumansBeing
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LOL... Right! Since when is 50 Billion dollars not much money.


Google congress talking about the Buffet tax...you have members of GOP arguing it's a negligible amount because it only funds the government for half a day...or a day. Next item on the agenda? The $800k GSA scandal, which sends them over the top. How long does that fund the government? 7 seconds!!!!


Someone looking at the numbers before listening to those chimps can't help but laugh...or cry...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by HumansBeing
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LOL... Right! Since when is 50 Billion dollars not much money.


$50 Billion over 10 years???


We have a $$$ Trillion problem.

The Buffett Rule was just another way for Obama to poke a stick in the eye of

capitalism.

Obama is an Anti-capitalist.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by HumansBeing
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LOL... Right! Since when is 50 Billion dollars not much money.


$50 Billion over 10 years???


We have a $$$ Trillion problem.

The Buffett Rule was just another way for Obama to poke a stick in the eye of

capitalism.

Obama is an Anti-capitalist.


^^^ Eurisko doing his GOP impression to further prove my point


Tax breaks don't automatically result in economic growth and prosperity. Since the Bush tax cuts, unemployment has grown, and the economy has shrunk. But who cares about facts, right?



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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They did during the Reagan years.

I'll take that over socialist solutions any day of the week.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Here we go again... another conservative who envokes the all mighty Regan, and yet fails to realize that in todays political structure Regan would be considered a centrist democrat.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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So is it pretty much unofficially down to Obama vs. Romney?

All I ever see now is Romney, Romney, Romney in thread titles. Is Paul just about out of the equation?

A choice between Obama and Romney crushes my spirit. Looks like another apathetic election year for me, reminiscent of McCain and Obama.

Can someone please let me know why Romney is pretty much the believed Rep nominee? It really pisses me off. Doesn't surprise me- it's just that everyone is acting like he has it in the bag.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by HumansBeing
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Here we go again... another conservative who envokes the all mighty Regan, and yet fails to realize that in todays political structure Regan would be considered a centrist democrat.




The economy will begin to truly recover when The Supreme Court rules ObamaCare

unconstitutional and then flushes the whole thing down the toilet.

Right now ObamaCare is like a dark cloud hovering over the Fortune 500.

ObamaCare introduced - uncertainty - into our economy.

Our next target - Dodd / Frank -.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by AshleyD
A choice between Obama and Romney crushes my spirit.

Not much difference between the two.

Can someone please let me know why Romney is pretty much the believed Rep nominee?

Delegate count. No one else can reach the required number.
That and high level endorsements. He is definately 'the guy' ...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by AshleyD
So is it pretty much unofficially down to Obama vs. Romney?

All I ever see now is Romney, Romney, Romney in thread titles. Is Paul just about out of the equation?

A choice between Obama and Romney crushes my spirit. Looks like another apathetic election year for me, reminiscent of McCain and Obama.

Can someone please let me know why Romney is pretty much the believed Rep nominee? It really pisses me off. Doesn't surprise me- it's just that everyone is acting like he has it in the bag.


Most of the big money's behind him, and money wins nominations.

The hilarious part?

If you watch the news now, you have TOOOOOONS of guys who dissed Romney before because they promoted Bachmann/Santorum/Cain/etc...but now they all come out saying "Romney's a great candidate and people should be enthusiastic".

It's almost like a staged event in North Korea



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by HumansBeing
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Here we go again... another conservative who envokes the all mighty Regan, and yet fails to realize that in todays political structure Regan would be considered a centrist democrat.




The economy will begin to truly recover when The Supreme Court rules ObamaCare

unconstitutional and then flushes the whole thing down the toilet.

Right now ObamaCare is like a dark cloud hovering over the Fortune 500.

ObamaCare introduced - uncertainty - into our economy.

Our next target - Dodd / Frank -.


Wait...let me get this right: Did you just claim Obamacare is responsible for the bad economy?

You can't be serious! That makes no sense whatsoever



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by AshleyD
So is it pretty much unofficially down to Obama vs. Romney?

All I ever see now is Romney, Romney, Romney in thread titles. Is Paul just about out of the equation?

A choice between Obama and Romney crushes my spirit. Looks like another apathetic election year for me, reminiscent of McCain and Obama.

Can someone please let me know why Romney is pretty much the believed Rep nominee? It really pisses me off. Doesn't surprise me- it's just that everyone is acting like he has it in the bag.


Welcome to the discussion.


It's not over. The next 3 months will be critical.

The economy will get worse. The GSA Scandal will reveal more devastating examples of

Government Gone Wild. I see Obama stepping aside around July 20, 2012.

The SCOTUS ruling on ObamaCare will set the wheels in motion.

The left is floating polling data on Hillary.

Can you see step 2?
- Heeeeeeeeres Hillary! - Salon



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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This is so depressing. lol

There was even a campaign slogan I saw for Romney the other day. It pretty much said something like, 'Why not give him a shot? What do we have to lose? or something like that. Basically, the dems have made a mess so let's give the rep a try.

I'm like... haven't we failed enough? Once the dems mess up, it's always 'let's give the reps a chance! How much worse could it be? We might as well try.' And when the reps mess up, it's the same logic.

I think both parties have failed enough.

And, yes, true. I understand Paul is technically a rep but he's really not a mainline rep or anything. Far more into the libertarian realm and balks at most of the rep dogma.

It just pisses me off I guess.

Really not looking forward to two more 'choices' like this again. Ugh.We'll never get out of this mess. People are just too damn stupid. lol



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Really not looking forward to two more 'choices' like this again. Ugh.We'll never get out of this mess. People are just too damn stupid. lol



You can thank the "news" outlets for that. They let themselves being turned from NEWS outlets into PR agencies. Add to that the fact that money buys politics, and "corporations are people (my friend)", and you know why the entire system is going down the drain.

It's really depressing. I spent years living the States in the 80s, 90s, and a couple of years since...and the news have progressively gotten worse. It's almost as if the people are systematically being dumbed down to the point where all they listen to are 1-liner slogans. Some posters on ATS are great examples of this....I won't name anyone though, I'm sure you can read just fine

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