SECRET SPACE WAR - Which side are TPTB on? Which ALIENS do 'Star Wars' Satellites Target?

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posted on Oct, 27 2013 @ 08:03 PM
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Getsmart



To others here, you will note that the animosity of attacks against certain posts and the individuals who post disturbing information, mostly reveals that something hit a nerve, or either disturbs conventional thinking of closed minds or, more likely, the agencies and private interests who wish to clamp down on the truth.


Getsmart
edit on 27-10-2013 by Getsmart because: taking pot shots at those who post sensitive information proves some of it MUST BE TRUE !


This is pure wishful thinking on your part..


You have not divulged anything new, nor do the governments want to shut it down..otherwise it would be shut down. If there is anything..it is black projects and the government love it when a yahoo on the internet spreads this kind of garbage...as long as there is people like you..no truth will ever be given because those of us looking for answers will always be drowned out by the nuts of UFOlogy.

I don't fear anything you say because it is pure BS...but I do follow ATS's motto..Deny Ignorance...and letting people know they should look into this and not take the word of some person on the internet.

If researched...they would find that a lot of the UFO stories have altered by believers to further their delusions of alien visitations. Also a lot of the people spreading " the truth" are hoaxers and charlatans looking to make money off of gullible people.

So my request is..in order to deny ignorance ..do some research..some thorough research..a lot of the answers you find will change your belief system or you could ignore the facts and continue to live in the stupid world.




posted on Oct, 27 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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Onslaught2996
Thread full of garbage evidence to fulfill their own delusions...
stories are being taken as fact without any true research...
always the same old junk stories...
the usual suspects posting in here...
everything is true..without any actual research...
people who have a complete absence of rational thought...
I come into every thread hoping that something new is revealed...


Well, at least we can all agree that your post is quite an Onslaught, 2996. LOL
Congratulations on your kindhearted brotherly spirit towards fellow ATS members. This attests to your character and grants us perspective on the validity of your gripes.


Beyond the personal attacks, you use law enforcement language, calling other ATS members "the usual suspects" as if you were the Thought Police. We can also note that you complain about the failings of others, for not providing you with the answers you wish. These, you say, need to comply with your exacting demands in terms of research methodology and evidence compilation. Your post indicates that you imagine we all must have signed up at ATS purely for your benefit, to dutifully deliver exciting revelations to your heart's desire.


Yet it is not the duty of other ATS members to make you happy. You say you aren't obtaining the revelations you hope for, by simply clicking on a thread title. Then why not go out and do some of that field work you demand of others ? Don't forget to do that "real research" you require of others, using tried and tested hard science to validate every fastidious step. Just remember, nobody else here has the gumption to demand you to deliver it to us on a platter. Nor to mock you for any shortcomings, as long as your efforts are genuine and your motives honorable.


As OP and a truthseeker, I humbly request that all in this thread try to post constructive contributions outlining as clearly as possible what they deem to be the truth, explaining why, with tolerance for esteemed members whose ideas which do not match your own. This is a speculative thread in a speculative forum, where members are encouraged to speculate. This is how we are able to rethink problem sets and arrive at new theories. Nobody should be discouraged from engaging in the process, nor mistreated for taking the risk of considering controversial ideas. Thanks in advance.


GS
edit on 27-10-2013 by Getsmart because: it is easy to criticize and far harder to offer intelligent vision.



posted on Oct, 27 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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Getsmart

taking pot shots at those who post sensitive information proves some of it MUST BE TRUE !


Amazing logic right there. Kind of like the time you warned us that if you were suddenly no longer posting after being attacked by a MiB and dowsed with anthrax that it would give relevance to your posts. Well you're still here posting away, so what does that say about the relevance of your posts?


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posted on Oct, 28 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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As OP and a truthseeker, I humbly request that all in this thread try to post constructive contributions outlining as clearly as possible what they deem to be the truth, explaining why, with tolerance for esteemed members whose ideas which do not match your own.


You cannot control the actions of anyone but yourself, yet you are unable to do what you demand of others! Time and again you post evident hoaxes, then wash your hands of responsibility for them. Might I humbly request you try to post only constructive contributions that outline as clearly as possible why you deem them to be true?



posted on Oct, 28 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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Thanks, friends of the thought police, for bumping this thread.


Going personal isn't going to take anything away from the relevance of this topic. There is considerable evidence of hostile action involving UFOs and even this September military publications outline engagement of the Iranian Air Force against UFOs (after minute 5:00 in video).

There have been allegations that the US Military are allied with Aliens. In any case they are reverse engineering their craft, which were "DOWNED" using Electromagnetic Pulse Weapons. In my humble opinion, I trust that most military analysts will concede that shooting down spacecraft with weapons can be termed a form of military engagement ? Hence underlining the distinct possibility of military conflict in our direct airspace and further out in outer space, ie. a SPACE WAR.


Check out the declarations below by Steven Greer. He is not alone in analyzing data, vetting whistleblowers and investigating allegations. An eyewitness ready to testify to Congress states one location contains downed Alien ships and the biological remains of combat casualties from 9 different Alien Species, in an underground base near US Military Intelligence Headquarters at Fort Huachuca, Arizona (after minute 2:00).

Some have ventured to say that US Intelligence has been hijacked and become VASSAL to Aliens, with data funneled to them from various agencies. If said ET's are indeed valid allies, aligned with our interests, this could be an acceptable strategic alliance. Having advanced technology doesn't mean they wouldn't use humans for the grunt work of data handling. However, if there is instead an Alien Occupation Force working for an inhuman agenda and using our intelligence gathering facilities as a means to monitor the entire planet, then humanity is in a far more critical position than previously envisaged.


I am not trying to convince anyone of this. This possibility is presented to behold and consider alone or correlate to whatever other information and ideas they might have on the topic. If we cannot discuss such possibilities in a dedicated Conspiracy forum, clearly explaining what is a HYPOTHESIS versus what is factual evidence, then where can we talk about it ? Sorry for those who wish this topic was BANNED.


Truthseekers will agree don't need members acting as drill sergeants, telling others what they can think about or discuss. It is common knowledge that the truth causes intense reactions, either of denial by those whose reality construct is overly invested in the prevailing lies, or by agents of the system spinning those lies.


That multiple people, or bots, post personal attacks when controversial possibilities are brought up, can legitimately make us wonder why they have an axe to grind ? Chastising other members for what they perceive, consider or hypothesize is taxing them of THOUGHT CRIMES. This isn't George Orwell's Big Brother in action, those who wish it were might like to move to China ? There this task is handled directly by the Government ! Oh... but isn't some of that also being done here ?


Cheers,


Getsmart
edit on 28-10-2013 by Getsmart because: considering alternative ideas is the start of critical thinking !



posted on Oct, 28 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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someotherguy

Originally posted by Nite_wing
According to the Morlocks, we taste like chicken.


According to cannibals, we taste like pork. They even call humans the long pig.


Interesting. I heard we were more closely related (corresponding DNA) to pigs than chimps. Stands to reason that we taste like pigs/pork. Well, now we know they're going to do in the south when TSHTF!!! BBQ anyone? *Squeal*



posted on Oct, 29 2013 @ 09:14 PM
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Getsmart
Thanks, friends of the thought police, for bumping this thread.


Going personal isn't going to take anything away from the relevance of this topic. There is considerable evidence of hostile action involving UFOs and even this September military publications outline engagement of the Iranian Air Force against UFOs (after minute 5:00 in video).

There have been allegations that the US Military are allied with Aliens. In any case they are reverse engineering their craft, which were "DOWNED" using Electromagnetic Pulse Weapons. In my humble opinion, I trust that most military analysts will concede that shooting down spacecraft with weapons can be termed a form of military engagement ? Hence underlining the distinct possibility of military conflict in our direct airspace and further out in outer space, ie. a SPACE WAR.


Check out the declarations below by Steven Greer. He is not alone in analyzing data, vetting whistleblowers and investigating allegations. An eyewitness ready to testify to Congress states one location contains downed Alien ships and the biological remains of combat casualties from 9 different Alien Species, in an underground base near US Military Intelligence Headquarters at Fort Huachuca, Arizona (after minute 2:00).

Some have ventured to say that US Intelligence has been hijacked and become VASSAL to Aliens, with data funneled to them from various agencies. If said ET's are indeed valid allies, aligned with our interests, this could be an acceptable strategic alliance. Having advanced technology doesn't mean they wouldn't use humans for the grunt work of data handling. However, if there is instead an Alien Occupation Force working for an inhuman agenda and using our intelligence gathering facilities as a means to monitor the entire planet, then humanity is in a far more critical position than previously envisaged.


I am not trying to convince anyone of this. This possibility is presented to behold and consider alone or correlate to whatever other information and ideas they might have on the topic. If we cannot discuss such possibilities in a dedicated Conspiracy forum, clearly explaining what is a HYPOTHESIS versus what is factual evidence, then where can we talk about it ? Sorry for those who wish this topic was BANNED.


Truthseekers will agree don't need members acting as drill sergeants, telling others what they can think about or discuss. It is common knowledge that the truth causes intense reactions, either of denial by those whose reality construct is overly invested in the prevailing lies, or by agents of the system spinning those lies.


That multiple people, or bots, post personal attacks when controversial possibilities are brought up, can legitimately make us wonder why they have an axe to grind ? Chastising other members for what they perceive, consider or hypothesize is taxing them of THOUGHT CRIMES. This isn't George Orwell's Big Brother in action, those who wish it were might like to move to China ? There this task is handled directly by the Government ! Oh... but isn't some of that also being done here ?


Cheers,


Getsmart
edit on 28-10-2013 by Getsmart because: considering alternative ideas is the start of critical thinking !


Do not worry Getsmart, time will make its work and if it is the case concerning Aliens being involved with earth (which I believe to be the case by the way), light will be shed on those issues.

The logic is simple, every lie that has being said or done get to be known one day or another, so the lies from NASA, ESA or anything/anyone else will be portrayed as what they really are to us, humans, it is only a matter of when, not if it will happen.

The greatest thing which will have ever happened on this planet since a long time.




Thruthseek3r



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:03 AM
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Hi Truthseek3r,


Let us hope that we'll live to see the unfolding to which you refer. Truth does tend to come out over time unless a continuum of disinformation has been actively suppressing it durably.


Regarding the Secret Space War there was recently published a photograph taken from the International Space Station which is reported to be showing us the reentry of Albert Einstein - an waste-laden ISS supply shuttle. While I am not an expert in space image analysis, there is the assumption that for a fire to burn there must be presence of certain gasses, and I wonder if sufficient amounts of combustibles would be aboard such a supply cargo hold?


The space object shown in the photograph is clearly highly flammable at very high altitude where little if any gaseous substances would be present to support such a blaze. Earlier reports of re-entry damage to satellites were that the metal would weaken from heat, causing them to break apart into small pieces before the entire vessel would have time to combust and become engulfed in flames. To the inexperienced eye, this therefore looks a lot more like a space craft which was shot down by a plasma pulse in an unofficial Space War engagement. It seems to have been hit, and is burning up BEFORE entry into our atmosphere.


Wow! Astronauts Watch Fiery Death of Space Station Cargo Ship (Photos)


The photo makes a "statement of fact" of what the object is, to prevent our querying minds to wonder what it might be. Of course it must be a "Space Station Cargo Ship" since that is what the astronauts were watching during its reentry. Similarly the mainstream press will declare "Firemen watch as passenger planes bring down the Twin Towers". The professionals watched exactly that, so how can you question tha the FACT that it was the planes which brought down the towers. Similarly, the professionals watched their own cargo ship, so we cannot question that it was indeed that cargo ship. And this even if physics and chemistry make it highly unlikely that it was the planes, or a metal can full of astronaut poop ! Unfortunately they won't release the recorded chatter aboard the ISS. You can just hear them saying:


Unofficial version: "Yay ! We sure blasted them space buggers out of the neighborhood !"

Official version: "Hey Larry, check out how ISS poop lights up the sky !"


Take your pick LOL





Getsmart

edit on 6-11-2013 by Getsmart because: we see what they want us to see and not what is in front of our eyes !



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:06 AM
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No it's a mexican spacecraft, a real illegal alien



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 02:40 AM
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I wish to thank ATS member Dividuality for calling this documentary to my attention. It highlights in no uncertain terms how Space has become the New Arena for Warfare and a Mysterious New Battleground. Openly verifiable known military ventures into Space Warefare Technology include the deployment of potentially offensive spy micro-satellites, narrow beam Starfire Laser Space Weapons, low orbit kill vehicles, prompt global nuclear strike capability, Falcon HTV-3X orbital space plane,





At minute 9:45 of the second video, former member of the US Committee on Armed Services Joseph Cirincione states that "It's a Con, it's a Con. Missile Defense is the greatest Fraud in the Department of Defense. And believe me, it's had a lot of competitors." This leaves us with several potential explanations. One is that the Military Industrial Complex is exploiting the US Taxpayer by pillaging the US Budget with $200 billion of useless expenditures. Another is that Missile Defense is a misnomer, carefully chosen to draw attention away from the real purpose of these programs, which are actually Anti-Spaceship Weapons Systems.


This second video also quotes the Military Space Command documents which state their goal to Control Space:

Control of Space is an ability to deny others the use of space, if required.


Which begs the question:

To whom - or to "what" does the Space Command seek to deny our immediate Outer Space?


Also, there will probably be a distribution of military strike capability in Space across international borders and ideological boundaries, with religious leaders of the Islamic world, officials of communist China, potentates from the Kremlin and a diversity of other human factions joining forces in Space united against a common enemy.




Getsmart



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 04:05 AM
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This thread is full of so much logic fail I don't even know where to begin.

Real aliens hostile to our planet would annihilate us without blinking. The 'war' would be over real quick.

Why? Because real aliens will most likely be millions and perhaps billions of years more advanced than us by virtue of the age of the galaxy since most star systems are older than ours by a billion or more years.

Then there is the fact that we're here talking about this. Given how long our civilization has been around, we'd have been obliterated in the past and thus would not be here talking about a fictional "space war" with advanced aliens.

Unless you believe the aliens just so happened to show up at just the right time that we'd pose a little more of a nuisance to them.......

But why let math get in the way of a good sci-fi story right? Emphasis on the "fi".
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posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 04:13 AM
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Getsmart
I wish to thank ATS member Dividuality for calling this documentary to my attention. It highlights in no uncertain terms how Space has become the New Arena for Warfare and a Mysterious New Battleground. Openly verifiable known military ventures into Space Warefare Technology include the deployment of potentially offensive spy micro-satellites, narrow beam Starfire Laser Space Weapons, low orbit kill vehicles, prompt global nuclear strike capability, Falcon HTV-3X orbital space plane,





At minute 9:45 of the second video, former member of the US Committee on Armed Services Joseph Cirincione states that "It's a Con, it's a Con. Missile Defense is the greatest Fraud in the Department of Defense. And believe me, it's had a lot of competitors." This leaves us with several potential explanations. One is that the Military Industrial Complex is exploiting the US Taxpayer by pillaging the US Budget with $200 billion of useless expenditures. Another is that Missile Defense is a misnomer, carefully chosen to draw attention away from the real purpose of these programs, which are actually Anti-Spaceship Weapons Systems.


This second video also quotes the Military Space Command documents which state their goal to Control Space:

Control of Space is an ability to deny others the use of space, if required.


Which begs the question:

To whom - or to "what" does the Space Command seek to deny our immediate Outer Space?


Also, there will probably be a distribution of military strike capability in Space across international borders and ideological boundaries, with religious leaders of the Islamic world, officials of communist China, potentates from the Kremlin and a diversity of other human factions joining forces in Space united against a common enemy.




Getsmart



Space Command is like the US Navy. It sees space as a new ocean. It's not set up to fight aliens but to prevent hostile nations from gaining "the high ground".

The oft-repeated Reagan speech referred to the Soviet Union and communism. That was what he was referencing. It's not a reference to space aliens but what Reagan considered an alien ideology to 'the free world'.

SMH.

So, did you "Get the Bracelet" yet? Your post sounds like the drek that "Unsealed: UFO Files" show serves up every week.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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Masters of Space is an excellent documentary, I encourage anyone interested in it to watch the full version which is titled Pax Americana and the Weaponization of Space. (Masters of Space was a shorter, edited down version for TV.)

Getsmart do you realize you just gave a huge middle finger F-U to every researcher in the documentary?
The weaponization of space is a very real and important topic but you've gone and tainted it with this alien space war nonsense. The documentary talks about countries building space based weapons that could be used to disable other countries satellites and somehow you've twisted that into a bunch of gobbledygook about "human factions joining forces in Space united against a common enemy." Now when someone is searching for serious research on space based weapons they're going to find this thread which does nothing but make a mockery of the subject.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 01:43 AM
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Well guys, first I thank you for your collegial attitude towards fellow forum members, for that is really what makes ATS a special place: mutual respect and open minded discussion. Also, alternative thinking is what shows the cracks in the bubble world spun for us by TPTB, be they human or alien in origin.


Regarding my thread, I am sorry if you were disappointed to see a viewpoint which is different from your own, or from the one promoted by the military establishment. Possibly you have some form of attachment, either to their perspective or maybe even to their various corps, assuming you might be in active service or a veteran. Yet, please concur that military powers engage in both secrecy and in active disinformation to keep their motives and operations out of public purview. This means that we cannot rely upon their communications to tell the truth.


The ever so frequent argument that Aliens cannot exist because we'd be toast if they did - where have we heard that before? Was it in George Orwell's "Animal Farm"? Oh, humans cannot exist or they would have decimated all animals, given their manifest superiority? Or... they'd outright kill us, so they must be good humans because "look, we're still alive"! Today, some farmers play Mozart for their cows to increase their milk production. Of course their fate is lovely, and obviously there is no conspiracy to exploit them.


IF there are aliens, something I happen to know for fact, and IF they are many times superior to us intellectually, then why would they obey the logic of barbarian humans who can only think of annihilating their foes rather than putting them to good use? For there is no proof that we aren't worth more to them alive than extinct. For all we know, there could be other reasons which are less obvious for which we are not targeted for military defeat, with only selective incursions into our Airspace and Oceans, the installation of underground and underwater bases such as we might ourselves install in distant planets the day we are able to reach them by Space Travel.


When it comes to math demonstrating what is real and what is not, please give us the formula to calculate a mother's love for her child, the matrix rotators to predict which candidate will be elected, the algorithms to reveal how beautiful a sunset can be? Your mistake is not in how you operate the math, it is in your failure to properly qualify what must be quantified. And some things don't come true by calculating them.


You will be hard pressed to bring me to rescind my view that Aliens do in fact exist. I am a first hand eyewitness to their reality. While some doubt their sanity when confronted with facts that others, ignorant of their existence, systematically deny: they nevertheless cannot deny what they have most clearly experienced with all of their senses. Can doubt your senses, can you doubt your sanity, or can you doubt The Powers That Be?


Each examine your own life experience, everything you may have seen and heard and felt, what you think and how you think. Then oppose this to a fully controlled media establishment bent on propaganda with an agenda. Consider the reliability of our political class, which engages in careers as professional liars and spin artists, deceiving the electorate with every breath. Reflect upon those who wield military and intelligence powers, and who are engaged in overt or covert warfare and need for strategic and tactical reasons to hide the facts and protect in the strictest secrecy what they know to be true. Do you trust your senses, your own reasoning, or do you rely upon them to enlighten you?


When your own perceptions give you an alternative view of reality, different from the social consensus, you either hold true to what you know to be real in your flesh and bones, or you back down and accept the fictional world fed to you by a society bent upon pacifying and reassuring its citizenry. Yet, if you acknowledge the tremendous unlikeliness of a single short lived differentiated experience which does not jibe with the official story, then you may tend to see many other things we are taught and told in new ways, ways which may correspond to the insight you have gained into our reality, one which includes intelligent beings beyond our own species.


Yet, we are constantly invited - even in this forum - to keep the narrow view that only one species in the universe has a noteworthy brain and knows how to use it. And we can easily help ourselves to the mind boggling concept that we are the only species in the galaxy capable of venturing into Outer Space. Finally, we can also find comfort in the certainty that our political and military leaders would have unfailingly told us absolutely everything they know, especially as it pertains to our national security, and they would never dream of keeping anything important from the general population. And since they state that the only thing in space is satellites, meteorites and weather balloons, then there cannot be anything else! The astronauts despite rigorous selection and masonic oaths of secrecy who claim to see "bogies" and maintain that aliens do exist are clearly just delirious fools who have succumbed to some strange space illness. Maybe this is due to them having eyes and a mind? The many thousands of eyewitnesses to close encounters, then all of that is claptrap from people who don't know all that you know... that it is just swamp gas or collective hallucinations and that there is nothing to know, please move along!


In any case I thank you both for bumping this thread, which much to your displeasure hops back to the first page: that is what I call good sportsmanship! I am sure that thanks to your help quite a few others will gain a different perspective on the sightings in our skies, taking the official astronomical apologetics at face value when it comes to determining what is really going on up there. For what begs the question and causes a stir about this thread topic is not really what is happening right now in Space. The BIG Issue is what this implies about what has been happening down on Earth, the Alien Agenda and the potential COMPLICITIES among humans who just maybe happen to govern us for "others"?


If our political and military leaders are genuinely committed to defending humanity from Hostile Aliens bent upon colonizing our planet and enslaving our species, then we ought to be proud that they would be protecting our interests in Outer Space, using if necessary dissuasive military countermeasures. Hence the reality of a Secret Space War might be reassuring to us, if we could be certain that we are not vassals of one Alien power battling another, for reasons not in our own interest.


Getsmart
edit on 21-11-2013 by Getsmart because: Aliens exist and interact with humans... not always "COMING IN PEACE" !



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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Please visit my thread on Capt.Mark Richards and the secret space programme.

I have hundreds of hours research under my belt from many testimonies of many credible and highly established witnesses, see Bob Dean..Richard Hoagland..etc but despite all this evidence..(and you do have to use discernment)..trying to talk to those poor brainwashed souls that continue to deny that the brick that has just hit them in the face, is indeed a brick...its an almost impossible task, and they have nothing but empathy from me.

The "evidence" that they require as proof..is out there if only they took their heads out of the sand and looked! Structures across the globe and on other planets that are impossible to recreate with even todays technology.. hundreds upon thousands of unrelated corroborating sightings and abductions photos and videos for the past 60+ years..the more you dig..the deeper the rabbit hole goes.

But you don't read the last chapter of a book and hope to understand the whole book..there are a series of steps you need to take in order to wake up.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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You don't understand: GetSmart was being sarcastic, then he accused you of being a paid disinfo agent. Everyone who doesn't think that every ambiguous word he types is manna, can only be an agent of evil.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 07:01 AM
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Getsmart

Well, at least we can all agree that your post is quite an Onslaught, 2996. LOL
Congratulations on your kindhearted brotherly spirit towards fellow ATS members. This attests to your character and grants us perspective on the validity of your gripes.

Beyond the personal attacks, you use law enforcement language, calling other ATS members "the usual suspects" as if you were the Thought Police. .....


No, you ninny, he was alluding to a famous line in the movie 'Casablanca' [1942]. Jeeez, get a life out in the real world, man.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 03:26 AM
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JimOberg

No, you ninny, he was alluding to a famous line in the movie 'Casablanca' [1942]. Jeeez, get a life out in the real world, man.


Jim,


Much a fan of Claude Rains and his character as Capitaine de la Gendarmerie Francaise, in that scenario he referred to a class of underworld criminals readily rounded up. This was poking fun at how police work was done at the time, conveniently pinning crimes on anyone you wish and then going on with your murky business. It was at minimum unflattering for ATS members posting in a thread to be compared to the dregs of humanity from which to pick and choose a culprit.


ATS members can legitimately find it disparaging to be called "suspect" simply for posting in this thread and not agreeing with Onslaught. Maybe you have reasons for defending his behavior, but does it really make it right when there is a cultural reference attached to an insult? It is called "pulling class" to find it witty and amusing to mock others using cultural allusions they cannot perceive or understand, for lack of education or cultural exposure. Is this so typical of the Officer's Club mindset to seem OK to you?


Given your background and necessary knowledge of what is actually going on up in our skies, at minimum you have insider information about what alliances certain earth powers may have brokered. It's a crying shame that you chose to not contribute to this thread when you could enlighten us all with your extensive knowledge of the subject. Many here hoped you would find it in your conscience to release at least a few shadow references to what you know to be true.


GS



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 04:08 AM
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vivid1975

Please visit my thread on Capt.Mark Richards and the secret space programme.

...100's of hours research from many testimonies of many credible and highly established witnesses, see Bob Dean..Richard Hoagland..etc but despite all this evidence..(and you do have to use discernment)..trying to talk to those poor brainwashed souls that continue to deny that the brick that has just hit them in the face, is indeed a brick...its an almost impossible task, and they have nothing but empathy from me.

The "evidence" that they require as proof is out there if only they took their heads out of the sand and looked! Structures across the globe and on other planets that are impossible to recreate with even todays technology.. hundreds upon thousands of unrelated corroborating sightings and abductions photos and videos for the past 60+ years..the more you dig..the deeper the rabbit hole goes.

But you don't read the last chapter of a book and hope to understand the whole book..there are a series of steps you need to take in order to wake up.


Hi Vivid,


Thanks for your post and I encourage others to do the hard work you have engaged in. I used to be a defense journalist and it was part of my job to sift through fact and fiction to gain real intelligence. For example you would sort out combat information from the shortwave radio transmissions of each enemy force, and much true data would be mixed in with propaganda reports to enhance troupe combat morale. Yes, it is hard to figure out what is true when every speck of truth is meshed with lies. But that is the task you have engaged upon in sorting out some real nuggets of truth inside the Captain Mark Richards report.


This job is very difficult for most people, for when done over time it comes with the absorption of an avalanche of conflicting data which cannot make sense when assembled. Summative knowledge by accumulation is not sufficient to determine the truth, but it does help gain awareness of data patterns and recurring facts. Extensive research is therefore only one aspect of deciphering hidden knowledge. Intensive research will often reveal more, when you dig in deep into a given area and learn from what you discover to be true or false. If false, you can eliminate it. If not proven false, it is not to be considered true until you can continuously retain it as not being false, constantly reexamining its validity in the face of new events, phenomena or theories.


But you say this all more tellingly with your allusion to a brick which hits you in the face. This is what causes most folks to shy away from anything unconventional. At best it is very uncomfortable to have to question all that we believe, more often it is deeply painful to learn that we have been deceived and that the world is not at all a Disney playground, as we were taught. You are right to say that only a seasoned researcher will have a field day with the Captain Mark Richards report, as there is much in it which defies conventional reasoning.


- he is imprisoned, hence he cannot legitimately be a high ranking officer of the US Space Command

- he claims things which have never been reported in any mainstream news report

- he says he was framed, as do most guilty criminals who are imprisoned and claim their innocence

- he claims insider information of current programs from inside a prison cell

- he could not be filmed by hidden camera which means we cannot observe his body language

- his interview is hearsay by Kerry Cassidy which means it could all have been scripted and read by her

- there are many references to information already found elsewhere in assorted alternative sources

- he claims the US is allied with an alien race nobody has ever heard of, the Raptors

- he states he was officially authorized to leak information, which begs other questions


In summary, if he was indeed legally authorized to leak information and used for the purpose of a controlled limited disclosure, then this would be for a specific purpose. It is commonplace for the intelligence community to blend valid and vital information with blatant falsehood, in order for a specific target group to discover this data and, after sifting out the static interference of lies, integrate it into their data matrix. This prevents unskilled non professional parties outside the intelligence community from discovering this valid information, unable to properly remove the amalgamated clutter of fiction from the worthwhile factual information transmitted.


Additionally, this could circumvents the betrayal of oaths of secrecy, because in this instance some unexpected prisoner whom nobody would ever believe, from the depths of credibility of a prison cell, spins a tall tale which only the wildest of conspiracy nuts would ever entertain for an instant. Nonetheless, agencies doing broad spectrum open research would stumble upon this. For it is possible that all is true, but that for example the identity of the Raptors is fictional in order to discredit the whole story in the eyes of those for whom it was not intended. The target, however, would replace Raptors with xxx, and gain new data about what might be going on, event reports or critical strategic or tactical information. Finally, this might be the only way of informing us, a useful if narrow community of truthseekers and researchers, about what is actually going on, while keeping this out view of the general public which is under constant monitoring and intense scrutiny, as the mass mind control agenda is of paramount importance to TPTB.


We can therefore assume several things. This could all be a hoax. However, even if parts are proven to be untrue, other parts might incorporate important revelations. Finally, most of this could be legitimate, given that we haven't yet done enough research to the point where it can be established that what is said is completely untrue. Captain Mark Richards may have indeed been framed, nothing is easier to do. His past history and earlier identity could have been falsified, just as easily by those who have access to public archives and records. Nevertheless, he could instead be an attention getting fabulator who wants to capture the public eye and be somebody in society, rather than just a number in a jail cell. Take your pick, but do so only after properly researching the entirely of his message.


Secret Space Programme Whistleblower Capt. Mark Richards Project Camelot


It is useful to all of us that you bring this up here, in this thread about the SECRET SPACE WAR, because it shows that there might in fact be a lot more to the US Space Command that what is commonly known. For example, few understand that there were secret defense space missions throughout the entire NASA history of public space missions. Few know that astronauts were chosen among Freemasons to ensure their oaths of secrecy will extend beyond normal military requirements. Few realize that the footage of the first moon landing was faked, and that the real footage is kept concealed in secure vaults. Few know that the Nazis who were designing and experimenting with UFOs 80 years ago brought their knowledge to the US intelligence and aeronautics communities. And few know that there are indeed necessarily complicities between the worldly powers of human leadership and otherworldly powers since the dawn of time. FWIW.


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edit on 23-11-2013 by Getsmart because: when thigs are kept secret, it takes treasures of investigation to reveal the truth !



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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I used to be a defense journalist and it was part of my job to sift through fact and fiction to gain real intelligence. For example you would sort out combat information from the shortwave radio transmissions of each enemy force, and much true data would be mixed in with propaganda reports to enhance troupe combat morale.]


Why were you monitoring communications directed at ballerinas? (You didn't think anyone ever believed you were a government agent or defense reporter, did you? You have some nerve trying to do that in front of Jim Oberg, you pompous fraud!)





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