Well guys, first I thank you for your collegial attitude towards fellow forum members, for that is really what makes ATS a special place: mutual
respect and open minded discussion. Also, alternative thinking is what shows the cracks in the bubble world spun for us by TPTB, be they human or
alien in origin.
Regarding my thread, I am sorry if you were disappointed to see a viewpoint which is different from your own, or from the one promoted by the military
establishment. Possibly you have some form of attachment, either to their perspective or maybe even to their various corps, assuming you might be in
active service or a veteran. Yet, please concur that military powers engage in both secrecy and in active disinformation to keep their motives and
operations out of public purview. This means that we cannot rely upon their communications to tell the truth.
The ever so frequent argument that Aliens cannot exist because we'd be toast if they did - where have we heard that before? Was it in George Orwell's
"Animal Farm"? Oh, humans cannot exist or they would have decimated all animals, given their manifest superiority? Or... they'd outright kill us, so
they must be good humans because "look, we're still alive"! Today, some farmers play Mozart for their cows to increase their milk production. Of
course their fate is lovely, and obviously there is no conspiracy to exploit them.
IF there are aliens, something I happen to know for fact, and IF they are many times superior to us intellectually, then why would they obey the logic
of barbarian humans who can only think of annihilating their foes rather than putting them to good use? For there is no proof that we aren't worth
more to them alive than extinct. For all we know, there could be other reasons which are less obvious for which we are not targeted for military
defeat, with only selective incursions into our Airspace and Oceans, the installation of underground and underwater bases such as we might ourselves
install in distant planets the day we are able to reach them by Space Travel.
When it comes to math demonstrating what is real and what is not, please give us the formula to calculate a mother's love for her child, the matrix
rotators to predict which candidate will be elected, the algorithms to reveal how beautiful a sunset can be? Your mistake is not in how you operate
the math, it is in your failure to properly qualify what must be quantified. And some things don't come true by calculating them.
You will be hard pressed to bring me to rescind my view that Aliens do in fact exist. I am a first hand eyewitness to their reality. While some doubt
their sanity when confronted with facts that others, ignorant of their existence, systematically deny: they nevertheless cannot deny what they have
most clearly experienced with all of their senses. Can doubt your senses, can you doubt your sanity, or can you doubt The Powers That Be?
Each examine your own life experience, everything you may have seen and heard and felt, what you think and how you think. Then oppose this to a fully
controlled media establishment bent on propaganda with an agenda. Consider the reliability of our political class, which engages in careers as
professional liars and spin artists, deceiving the electorate with every breath. Reflect upon those who wield military and intelligence powers, and
who are engaged in overt or covert warfare and need for strategic and tactical reasons to hide the facts and protect in the strictest secrecy what
they know to be true. Do you trust your senses, your own reasoning, or do you rely upon them to enlighten you?
When your own perceptions give you an alternative view of reality, different from the social consensus, you either hold true to what you know to be
real in your flesh and bones, or you back down and accept the fictional world fed to you by a society bent upon pacifying and reassuring its
citizenry. Yet, if you acknowledge the tremendous unlikeliness of a single short lived differentiated experience which does not jibe with the official
story, then you may tend to see many other things we are taught and told in new ways, ways which may correspond to the insight you have gained into
our reality, one which includes intelligent beings beyond our own species.
Yet, we are constantly invited - even in this forum - to keep the narrow view that only one species in the universe has a noteworthy brain and knows
how to use it. And we can easily help ourselves to the mind boggling concept that we are the only species in the galaxy capable of venturing into
Outer Space. Finally, we can also find comfort in the certainty that our political and military leaders would have unfailingly told us absolutely
everything they know, especially as it pertains to our national security, and they would never dream of keeping anything important from the general
population. And since they state that the only thing in space is satellites, meteorites and weather balloons, then there cannot be anything else! The
astronauts despite rigorous selection and masonic oaths of secrecy who claim to see "bogies" and maintain that aliens do exist are clearly just
delirious fools who have succumbed to some strange space illness. Maybe this is due to them having eyes and a mind? The many thousands of eyewitnesses
to close encounters, then all of that is claptrap from people who don't know all that you know... that it is just swamp gas or collective
hallucinations and that there is nothing to know
, please move along!
In any case I thank you both for bumping this thread, which much to your displeasure hops back to the first page: that is what I call good
sportsmanship! I am sure that thanks to your help quite a few others will gain a different perspective on the sightings in our skies, taking the
official astronomical apologetics at face value when it comes to determining what is really going on up there. For what begs the question and causes a
stir about this thread topic is not really what is happening right now in Space. The BIG Issue is what this implies about what has been happening down
on Earth, the Alien Agenda and the potential COMPLICITIES among humans who just maybe happen to govern us for "others"?
If our political and military leaders are genuinely committed to defending humanity from Hostile Aliens bent upon colonizing our planet and enslaving
our species, then we ought to be proud that they would be protecting our interests in Outer Space, using if necessary dissuasive military
countermeasures. Hence the reality of a Secret Space War might be reassuring to us, if we could be certain that we are not vassals of one Alien power
battling another, for reasons not in our own interest.
edit on 21-11-2013 by Getsmart because: Aliens exist and interact with humans... not always "COMING IN PEACE" !