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White House threatens veto of highway bill over Keystone pipeline provision

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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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White House threatens veto of highway bill over Keystone pipeline provision
By Ben Geman - 04/17/12 04:28 PM ET -- The Hill

Obama is in an uproar about the keystone Pipeline again.

This time he's nervous about a provision in the Highway Bill that Mandates approval of the controversial oil pipeline.

He says he will veto the whole Highway Bill because of the "Mandate"

I can understand why Obama is "touchy" and "twitchy" about the word "Mandate"



The White House on Tuesday threatened to veto House legislation to extend transportation programs because it contains GOP language that mandates approval of the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.

The House is slated to vote Wednesday on the bill that keeps the transportation programs funded through September, the end of the fiscal year.

It would take permitting of the proposed Alberta-to-Texas pipeline away from the State Department and task the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission with approving the project.
Lots of excuses in the article. Would he actually stop the highway funding because he is raving jealous or mad at somebody ? Why would he do that ?



But...But...But...well...well...uh..uh..uh



Just one problem here. Obama himself said he would expedite the permits for the keystone Pipeline in a speech right there in Oklahoma last month !!!!

He was standing right in front of pipes and other building materials !!


Here's the scoop from last month ---> Keystone pipeline: Southern portion should be expedited, Obama says
3/21/12 5:21 PM EDT -- Politico

CUSHING, Okla. — President Barack Obama will use Thursday’s visit to Oklahoma to announce that he's ordered federal agencies to get on the horse to approve the southern part of the Keystone XL pipeline, the White House announced.

[color=cyan]Obama will issue an executive order on federal permitting of infrastructure projects, "which will require agencies to make faster permitting and review decisions for vital infrastructure projects while protecting the health and vitality of local communities and the environment," the White House said.....
He was even smiling when he was talking !!


Well which is it ?






edit on Apr-17-2012 by xuenchen because:





posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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He wants to approve it piece by piece, slowly, so that environmentalists don't know what happened until it's all done.

It's also a means to go around congress with approvals and what not, by doing it piece by piece, state by state. There's a whole series of issues that arise from approving the project from start to finish.

As far as I understand it anyway.

Besides, he wants to keep the keystone pipeline debate until after the primaries so he can really dig at the GOP on environmental issues, gas prices and oil production.

Just party politics at it's finest again.

~Tenth



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Let's look at this from an alternative point of view.

This pipeline is the "highway" that will connect the NAU.

NAU = North American Union.

I'm not sure who's on which side but it's some crazy stuff to think about.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 


And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.


Maybe so Senator.

But he told everybody he would make an Executive Order for the permits.

Did he lie again ? or just fib.

You know how they always sneak unrelated items into all legislation don't you ?



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


Let's look at this from an alternative point of view.

This pipeline is the "highway" that will connect the NAU.

NAU = North American Union.

I'm not sure who's on which side but it's some crazy stuff to think about.


I agree with ya on that !!

The NAU is coming eventually.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 


And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.


Maybe so Senator.

But he told everybody he would make an Executive Order for the permits.

Did he lie again ? or just fib.

You know how they always sneak unrelated items into all legislation don't you ?



Why would vetoing this bill because of this ridiculous provision mean he isn't going to issue an executive order for the permits of the southern portion???

Your logic is failing.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher


Why would vetoing this bill because of this ridiculous provision mean he isn't going to issue an executive order for the permits of the southern portion???



Because he seldom does what he says he will do and never does what he promises to do.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 


And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.


Maybe so Senator.

But he told everybody he would make an Executive Order for the permits.

Did he lie again ? or just fib.

You know how they always sneak unrelated items into all legislation don't you ?



Why would vetoing this bill because of this ridiculous provision mean he isn't going to issue an executive order for the permits of the southern portion???

Your logic is failing.




Well Why would it matter if he is going to issue an executive order for the permits of the southern portion???

Your logic and Obama's logic is failing


I thought the Highway Bill will keep jobs and create some new ones


Obama might not care about all That anymore.

** Landslide 2012 **



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Here's a hint: ALL presidents break promises.

Obama isn't an exception.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 


And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.


I just love the way you defend Our Dear Leader.
Very passionate.
I just can't figure out if you do it for lulz or stars.


What is to defend? The pipeline is not going to benefit you or me one bit so why the hell should we pay for it?



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by Nite_wing

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 


And he should veto it.

The Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with the US highway system...it shouldn't be in the bill at all.

Once again...this is a stupid move by the Republicans that will backfire on them.


I just love the way you defend Our Dear Leader.
Very passionate.
I just can't figure out if you do it for lulz or stars.


What is to defend? The pipeline is not going to benefit you or me one bit so why the hell should we pay for it?


You could be right Doctor, but I thought the pipeline was funded by oil companies (I don't know)
($7 billion)

I know there was some funding by States for some environmental studies.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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He needs to veto it. I would love for Congress to quit adding these little riders to legislation altogether. It may hurt but, well to put it nicely the jobs the highway bill would have created and kept aren't worth potentially destroying the water supply so some CEO can collect a fat payday.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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Even if it is, it just promotes the continuation of this viscous cycle of crushing the little guy.

The oil industry needs to be neutered, big time.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Even if it is, it just promotes the continuation of this viscous cycle of crushing the little guy.

The oil industry needs to be neutered, big time.


That's fine for the far future.

But they need to get the hydrogen energy out in the open.

If they stop fossil fuel too soon, how many people will it cost ?

Or do we all go back to simple 17th Century living ?



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
You could be right Doctor, but I thought the pipeline was funded by oil companies (I don't know)
($7 billion)

I know there was some funding by States for some environmental studies.



You could be right, sport but the last time I checked "some funding by states" + tax funded subsidies = my money, not the oil companies money so I guess you could be right but I actually am right so there is that little difference that is fun.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Isn't it BIG GOVERNMENT to take away the ownership rights of hundreds/thousands
of Private Owners via an Imminent Domain type scheme like this pipeline?

Government taking your land, paying you squat for it... sounds very hypocritical of
the GOP.



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