The Mother of All Conspiracies

Excellent post, however you see a gap in the education system, self-sustainability, history, etc. It amazing to see so much history even mainstream to show mistakes of leaders, thats why we have laws that can issue a 99 year silence like dunblane for example. By that time the corrupt individuals are escaped from punishable means.

One note you didn't mention was the omega project codes, this and puma punku - ancient aliens all becoming mainstream along project bluebeam.

I would love all readers not only re-learn these topics but also to look at the Billy Meier material. In particular the Goblet of Truth. It seems we are all here to deny ignorance and this could be a very important tool.

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"...or just a way to keep us in the dark about our own possible greatness."

This, right here, my friend, is the answer to it all.

The human potential for greatness is unbelievable...da Vinci, Tesla, just run through a list of your own heroes and you will see that this is true.

I imagine, that all that free time would lead to us unlocking our great potential in meaningful pursuits. Art, philosophy, music, writing - those things that require the prism of our perception. Things that are uniquely and individually our own that cannot be replicated by anyone else.

Doctors will always follow the call of healing people, and I imagine that gifted sprocket-heads would have the time to sit around and engineer solutions, and actually work on implementing them.

We would have time to pursue spiritual endeavors, and as we all find ourselves with all this "free time," we would have the time to work together to make the world a better place for everyone. We would have time to formulate and implement solutions - especially the environmental and energy ones.

People will always have their own individual calling. And for those who don't answer to any call, that is their right as well - there should be no stigma.

Great thread. You just hit it on the nail. I just discussed about this thread with my father and after few minutes he started with his own problems. Shows how well government has succeeded in depriving people of their thinking capabilities while keeping them busy with their daily problems.

Great post, great recap of how things are.

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You are exactly right, Guavas. Not trying to steal your thunder but I've been saying the same thing for years. I teach my kids how to live off the land and ask them regularly to think about how they would make it if there wern't any power or food just to keep them thinking. I also spend a lot of time informing my daughter that all of the stuff that she's taught in school is horsesh^t and I show her the facts on the internet. We teach our kids how to sow, how to grow food and can it, how to 'Mcgyvar' things when need be, how to hunt and clean the animals, etc., etc.. It's actually just Appalachian culture to do these things and teach it to our youth and the government hates us for it.Why do you think all of those lies, stereo-types about us are mentioned on every TV show every week? That and the people who are stealing our natural resources and their families have spread these lies for years about us to try and dehumanise us and take away our credibility and respect for being an independant people.

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Hunh. I hadn't even thought of that. I just thought "where should I put this?" and General Conspiracy seemed the best spot lol.

And you do bring up a very important and interesting point...it's the people who don't have any interest in contemplating conspiracies that really should be the ones reading stuff like this, because they aren't looking for it. The people looking for it are already largely aware of the problems -- it's the people who AREN'T looking for it that we need to get the message out to.

Especially the stuff about racism man...that crap has got to go. We've lived with Gene Roddenberry in our lives long enough to know that Klingons and Humans can play well together just fine, and we need to stop reacting every time they stir the racial pot with that MSM stick.

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I agree. It is not that this plan of control was made many hundreds of years ago by evil people behind private walls. Our ancestors had good intentions and good plans for the future. Hence the system was created for good. But then bad guys saw the government as the ultimate power to control the nation and then they started slipping in. Pushing good people out and brining in their allies within the order. Talking about the currency system we have today, it was introduced for the good so that it could be easier for people to trade but then the loopholes in the system were found and abused by whom we today know as banks. Same with the religions. The holy books were written to pass on the knowledge to the masses but again, evil people saw in it the potential to control people. What we have today was slowly evolved as you said. And now they are doing a good job in keeping us in the dark.

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Of course, even in Colonial times there were blacksmiths for crafting things out of metal, plantation owners who grew tea and tobacco, butchers and Innkeepers. Shopkeepers did have material for dressmaking. They just weren't as specialized as we are now. Today many occupations are so specialized, I look at some of the jobs out there and wonder how someone even came up with it.
Still, we cannot live off the land as our ancestors in Colonial America did. The Pioneers carved a place out of the wildnerness where one had to have a gun to survive, and the winters were cold, bathtubs were a luxury. You couldnt just get rushed to the hospital every time something is off. Owning land has always been a way to survival and the communists and socialists of today believe that private property is some kind of evil thing. Their goal is to completely abolish private property, but anyone who has land has to pay ridiculously high taxes now just to keep it, never mind the mortgage itself. We have been slowly degraded from our ability to be autonomous, and continually pegged into more specialized occupations which give us only a bit of mastery in one small and finite work, instead of masters of the land and our surroundings. Dependency comes in so many forms.

You are quite right, much of it is deliberately engineered. John Dewey believed that people are cogs in the wheel of the State and that for the common good, children must be socialized to be those cogs. They existed for the State.

Here is a good read


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Oh just for fun I thought I'd post this cute spoof on blacksmithing from the 1946 film The Harvey Girls

Originally posted by Ghostcooler

The age of selfishness, self centered, inconsiderate,individualist thinking must,will,and is giving way to an age of altruistic,selfless,collectively beneficial thinking and acting must,will and is taking place.

This right here folks is what it's all about. We are waking up to the notion that we, as a species, are indeed in imminent danger as a whole. Selfish and self-centered solutions are not going to save us from ourselves here. After all, Einstein himself said we cannot solve problems with the same mindset that created them.

And I do believe we're all starting to get a sense of it all...perhaps lending credence to the notion of a global, collective consciousness of sorts. I'm really beginning to think that we all are truly connected to one another.

age of altruistic,selfless,collectively beneficial thinking and acting must,will and is taking place.

What planet are you living on?

Definitely NOT the mother of all conspiracies, BUT you got the basic stuff correct. The less time people have to research and think for themselves, the more this perverse system perpetuates itself and worstens. It is like a computer virus that left untouched will eventually destroy all your software.

"The lie is different at each level". Basically the bottom line is that inter-dimensional aliens are fighting a gallactic war and earth is part of their spoils. For some people this idea maybe too radical to accept since they have been conditioned to believe only what their church wants them to believe, but just like anything else, mainstream religion is also a sham. NASA is a sham, at least the public facade that has always been advertised to everyone. The real NASA is an adjunct to the Department of Defense which means they can CLASSIFY whatever the ptb wish. Science is run by luciferian masons, just like politics, religion, education, EVERYTHING!

Masonry is the gateway to hell, but only a select few reach the top. Everyone else just goes along for the ride and according to your degree are afforded the analogous respect and responsibility. I would have thought people would have caught on with masonry and the other secret societies(like skull and bones) much easier.



Watch all parts of the series. It is a long watch but definitely worth every minute of it. I only paste the first part so that I don't take too much server space on ATS and get yelled at. lol

Originally posted by Mark16
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I Love Pavlov! I just think of things differently i guess. I feel that with enoug mental effort anything can be achieved. And if you think anything isn't possible you hamper yourself. Good point though, mate.

Thanks.

Oh, and you obviously haven't met the imbecile who tried stapling water to a tree...

Originally posted by lambros56
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You think so....... why ?

Remember Manning.

'Nuff said.

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Thanks for trying. You are definitely getting closer though.

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What you said in here is exactly when I started to realize something wasn't quite right...back when I was fresh out of high school, I found the job thing to be very odd.

It was a catch 22. I couldn't get a job because I didn't have any experience, and if a job is the only way to get experience, how the hell was I expected to get the experience necessary to get a job if I couldn't get a job without that experience?!? ARGH!

I knew from then on, that something was up, and luck indeed plays a more important role than people care to admit.

Your post resonated with me, however, because I, too, have been there myself. The feeling of hopelessness, the futility, the bleakness. One thing that helped (me, at least) through those tough spots is in finding something that you can create. For some reason, I believe that creating things brings a fulfilling meaning to our lives.

And it matters not what is created, so long as you are the creator. Art, music, philosophy, hell, even poetry. Since you're in IT, it could be a new network architecture that you created, or a new program that you created that makes life easier for others.

Try and find something - anything - that you can create that brings joy and meaning to your life. If it brings joy to others or helps others, that's even better.

See if this helps...as it has helped me.

I'm not looking for stars or anything, but I really, really think that a thread I posted once applies here.

Especially considering all of the Matrix references in this jumble. This thread is beautiful, a golden contribution...

And here's my take on the Matrix end of it:

Matrix

And here's a snippet to show you how it applies:

This is all created by the government, and taught and enforced by society. We are prisoners of societal standard, of conformity, because it is the simplest way of controlling us. When we are conditioned to follow a certain path or response or behavior, we become limited, just as a jail cell will limit our physical freedom.

There is no arguing with the fact that government and society condition us. Pavlov has taught us exactly how this is done, and it is applicable in nearly all situations where control is desired, albeit in varying levels of complexity. We are slaves to the will and the convenience of our nations politics and economics. If you are dubious, look to how often our leaders listen to us, and actually accept our pleas. More often than not, if they actually listen, they will devise a way to reap more benefit than we do. And all the while, we continue to do as they desire, for that is how they planned it.

You may want to have a look. Seriously.

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I've been there, my friend. The futility of the nation we live in has me thoroughly depressed at one point. I believe the sky actually cried my pain.

I'm in a better way now...and I have all of you to show me I'm on the right path.

United we stand, divided we pray.

Originally posted by guavas

Originally posted by Ghostcooler

The age of selfishness, self centered, inconsiderate,individualist thinking must,will,and is giving way to an age of altruistic,selfless,collectively beneficial thinking and acting must,will and is taking place.

This right here folks is what it's all about. We are waking up to the notion that we, as a species, are indeed in imminent danger as a whole. Selfish and self-centered solutions are not going to save us from ourselves here. After all, Einstein himself said we cannot solve problems with the same mindset that created them.

And I do believe we're all starting to get a sense of it all...perhaps lending credence to the notion of a global, collective consciousness of sorts. I'm really beginning to think that we all are truly connected to one another.

Sounds more like a version of Marxism for the spiritually inclined. Whereas in spiritual terms we are All One, and we do gain by cooperation, there is no mandate from our Creator that we have "collective salvation" as the Prez once suggested.

Any Brahmin can tell you that salvation is still individual even if we recognize our Oneness. We are still on this earth as Individualizations of the One.
even in Marxism, someone is still ruling at the top. When will people realize there is no system which totally operates without a ruling class. It's just that Marxists like to pretend it's the Proletariat running things, while they admit themselves that someone is always going to be at the top. Marx lied when he said the State would eventually wither away.

Let me ask you this. When you meditate do you need 5 or 10 other people to meditate with you and help you find the point of Light inside?

Edit: I do like your point on creativity. This is what I think is necessary. Too much collective salvation takes away creativity and focuses on automation and following orders.

However, we cannot fight the system alone either. I guess a balance has to be found between our Oneness and our Individualness.

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S and F! I lack the words to put in perspective how close to the mark are, IMHO of being right. I think the same, things got here slowly, deliberatly. The only real questions I have left that need answering as far as "the system" goes, is how do you break a machine this large, and ingrained, in such a vast poulace? What is the right way to go about breaking it, and if you can break it, than what do you do after its gone? I mean we have most .gov for a reason, not always good ones, but reasons. I just don't know what could replace it but a restart of our curent form. That however, would create a lot more problems tan we have right now, including th power vacuum left in the world, after our fall, because that's what it will take to change it.

I think this video says it all.

Whatever god or gods there may be, whatever force created and/or rules this reality and universe, let it bless Linkin Park until the day they are forgotten...which, I hope, is never.