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The DHS is KGB...... (America has been invaded by Russia)

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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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Yeah I think we are on the same page so far and good post btw. Good call on the title change but I can no longer edit my OP, if a moderator wants to change the title to say USSR or communists, thats fine by me.




posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Sweet see you after a cup in the morning.
gnite
ljb



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Have a good one.




posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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interesting..



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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Hi honeycomb,
I certainly do not want to steal your thread. You have bit into a big chunk of rump here.
But imo it's all good and doable.

As a starting point let's under stand that it would take some time just to break this down.
It is a masterpiece of complexity. Just this first link. So can we try to identify exactly how this shows the DHS is directly or indirectly infiltrated by Soviets??? That is if we can even agree that it is what we think it is.
First let's look at source, Dates (very important) then individuals.Then relationships then loyalties
Anyone want to start. Live and learn time. I hope all members will help
cheers ljb
www.newswithviews.com...


IMPORTANT CAVEAT: Most of the information in two articles "Former Russian Prime Minister/ex-KGB Head to Work for Homeland Security and "Ex-KGB Heads Hired to Help Spy on Americans" by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt must be attributed solely to Al Martin and to his National Liberty Press since I have not yet been able to obtain documentation from U.S. Government sources. Al Martin's original article "Get Ready for the Sovietization of America" which provoked this writer to respond, appeared in the 4/21/03 issue of American Free Press. Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt

The old saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" could be applied to George Dubya's ability to "manage" controversial information. He is walking in his ex-CIA Daddy's footsteps, following intelligence guidelines on how to vaporize controversial information, or if unable to vaporize it, to simply move it around to another agency or individual, and hope no one catches on.

The following revelation, obtained from National Liberty Press, is even more interesting than information in the original Martin story since it reveals the lengths to which the government will go to disguise its controversial activities, thereby "snookering" Al Martin, myself, and others, through the use of disinformation. However, the truth will out, and the truth, outlined below, is in this case even more shocking than the original information which proved to be untrue.

Former KGB counter-intelligence chief, General Oleg Kalugin, who is a Fox News commentator, recently stated that Admiral Poindexter's Office of Information Awareness (OIA) which is involved in spying on United States citizens, had hired both General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr V. Karpos, former KGB heads, as consultants and advisors. (Primakov in addition served as Russian Prime Minister in the late nineties.) (Note: The KGB was the Secret Police in the former Soviet Union)

Al Martin, whose credibility has been questioned by a couple of NewsWithViews.com readers, had previously reported that Primakov and Karpov were hired by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). This information was disinformation provided by the Bush Administration to cover up the fact that Poindexter's OIA had hired Primakov and Karpov.

When the Bush administration realized it couldn't get away with lying about the hiring of Primakov and Karpov by Poindexter's OIA, it put out out very effective disinformation to the effect that these two former Soviet spies had a relationship with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is a lie.

In this way, when the media goes on its wild goose chase and calls the Department of Homeland Security...and the media has been persistent in getting the truth related to this most unusual story... the DHS legitimately says that the former KGB chiefs are not connected with the DHS. What Governor Ridge's office isn't telling the media is that these two ex-KGB operatives are working not for DHS but for Poindexter's OIA which has been set up to spy on Americans.

It does boggle the mind to find out that the administration which has waged war against Saddam Hussein (considered by President Bush to be responsible for the 9/11 terrorist act) would be hiring Primakov, a very close friend of Saddam Hussein's and a terrorist himself, to assist our government in fighting terrorism.

"The Soviet/Russian KGB created, and still controls, the international terrorist network. Under the reign of "ex"KGB officer Vladimir Putin, the Russian government--including the deniable commercial entities assisting the Iraqi war effort - is very much on the side of the terrorists." (The New American, April 21, "Our Enemy, Our Ally", by William Norman Grigg, www.thenewamerican.com)



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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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I think a good start would be to perhaps investigate some of the Russian spies who were caught, one was a woman a couple years back. Maybe if we can connect the dots and see where they were infiltrating?

abcnews.go.com...

Interesting. This one here was in contact with Hillary Clinton.

abcnews.go.com...-3qP28


According to court documents relating to the spies' arrest, Murphy had been in contact with a fundraiser and "personal friend" of Hillary Clinton, who took the office of Secretary of State in January 2009. The fundraiser, Alan Patricof, said in a statement in 2010 had retained Murphy's financial services firm more than two years before, had met with her a few times and spoke with her on the phone frequently. Patricof said they "never" spoke about politics, the government or world affairs.

A spokesperson for Clinton told ABC News in 2010 that at the time there was "no reason to think the Secretary was a target of this spy ring."


And this article is very telling.

www.foxnews.com...


The linchpin in the case was Col. Alexander Poteyev, a highly placed U.S. mole in Russian foreign intelligence, who betrayed the spy ring even as he ran it. He abruptly fled Moscow just days before the FBI rolled up the deep cover operation on June 27, 2010. Poteyev's role in exposing the illegals program only emerged last June when a Russian military court convicted him in absentia for high treason and desertion.
The U.S. swapped the 10 deep cover agents for four Russians imprisoned for spying for the West at a remote corner of a Vienna airport on July 9, in a scene reminiscent of the carefully-choreographed exchange of spies at Berlin's Glienicke Bridge during the Cold War.
While freed Soviet spies typically kept a low profile after their return to Moscow, Chapman became a lingerie model, corporate spokeswoman and television personality. Donald Heathfield, whose real name is Andrey Bezrukov, lists himself as an adviser to the president of a major Russian oil company on his LinkedIn account. President Dmitry Medvedev awarded all 10 of the freed deep-cover operatives Russia's highest honors at a Kremlin ceremony.
The swap was Washington's idea, raised when U.S. law enforcement officials told President Barack Obama it was time to start planning the arrests. Agents launched a series of raids across the northeast after a decade of intensive surveillance of the ring, which officials say never managed to steal any secrets.
The case was brought to a swift conclusion before it could complicate the president's campaign to "reset" U.S. relations with Russia, strained by years of tensions over U.S. foreign policy and the 2008 Russian-Georgian war. All 10 of the captured spies were charged with failing to register as foreign agents.
An 11th defendant, Christopher Metsos, who claimed to be a Canadian citizen and delivered money and equipment to the sleeper agents, vanished after a court in Cyprus freed him on bail.
Attorney General Eric Holder said the FBI decided to arrest the illegals because one of the spies was preparing to leave the U.S. and there was concern that "we would not be able to get him back." Despite the ring's failure to gather any intelligence, Holder said they still posed a potential threat to the U.S.


Read more: www.foxnews.com...



"In my view this whole operation was a waste of human resources, money and just put Russia in a ridiculous situation," said Oleg Kalugin, a former KGB major general who spied against the U.S. during the Soviet era, in an interview earlier this year. He now lives near Washington.
Alexander Vassiliev, a former KGB officer and journalist who has written extensively about Soviet spying in America, said the illegals were supposed to act as talent spotters and scouts, identifying Americans in positions of power who might be recruited to spill secrets for financial reasons or through blackmail. Spies with the protection of diplomatic credentials would handle the more delicate task of recruiting and handling the agents.


Read more: www.foxnews.com...



The 10 Russian illegals included:
-- Chapman, the daughter of a Russian diplomat, who worked as a real estate agent in New York City. After she was caught, photos of the redhead's social life and travels were splashed all over the tabloids. Following her return to Russia, Chapman worked as a model, became the celebrity face of a Moscow bank and joined the leadership of the youth wing of the main pro-Kremlin party.
-- Vicky Pelaez and Juan Lazaro, of Yonkers, New York. He briefly taught a class on Latin American and Caribbean politics at Baruch College. She wrote pieces highly critical of U.S. policy in Latin America as a columnist for one of the United States' best-known Spanish-language newspapers, El Diario La Prensa.
-- Michael Zottoli and Patricia Mills of Arlington, Virginia. He had worked at a telecommunications firm. The couple raised a young son and toddler in their high-rise apartment.
-- Richard and Cynthia Murphy of Montclair, New Jersey. He mostly stayed home with their two pre-teen children while she worked for a lower Manhattan-based accounting firm that offered tax advice. As part of her job, she provided financial planning for a venture capitalist with close ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton.
-- Donald Howard Heathfield and Tracey Lee Ann Foley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. He worked in sales for an international management consulting firm and peddled strategic planning software to U.S. corporations. She was a real estate agent.
--Mikhail Semenko of Arlington, Virginia, who spoke Russian, English, Spanish, Chinese and Portuguese. He worked at the Travel All Russia travel agency, where co-workers described him as "clumsy" and "quirky."
In return for the return of the illegals, Moscow freed four Russians after they signed statements admitting to spying for the U.S. or Britain.
The U.S. spies included Alexander Zaporozhsky, a former colonel and deputy chief of Russian foreign intelligence's American section, who had retired in 1997 and moved to suburban Baltimore in 2001. He was arrested after he returned to Moscow for what he thought was a reunion with KGB colleagues and was sentenced in 2003 to 18 years in prison for espionage.
Zaporozhsky may have provided information leading to the capture of Robert Hanssen and Aldrich Ames, two of the most damaging spies ever caught in the U.S.
Gennady Vasilenko, a former KGB officer who worked in Washington and Latin America, was accused by Hansen of spying for the U.S. He was arrested in Havana in 1988, but released from Moscow's notorious Lefortovo prison after six months for lack of evidence. But suspicions lingered, and Vasilenko was arrested again in 2006 in Moscow and sentenced to three years in prison for illegal weapons possession and resistance to authorities.
Vasilenko now has a home in Leesburg, Virginia. He declined the Associated Press' request for an interview.
Arms control researcher Igor Sutyagin worked for what may have been a British-based CIA front, and he denies being a spy, saying he didn't pass along any information that wasn't available through open sources. He told reporters he signed a confession out of concern he would otherwise ruin the swap for the others -- and for fear of abuse and misery in the three years remaining in his prison term.
The fourth was Sergei Skripal, a former colonel for Russian military intelligence, the GRU. He was sentenced in 2006 to 13 years in prison for passing the names of other Russian agents to British intelligence. Skripal, now about 60, is said to be suffering from diabetes. Both Skripal and Sutyagin went to Britain following their release.
U.S. officials have not commented on the Poteyev case.


Read more: www.foxnews.com...



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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So now we have Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and Barack Obama.

Who would have guessed?




posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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This one looks promising. Wikilleaks.

http://__._/gifiles/docs/1673644_re-russian-spy-ring-update-russian-double-agent-helped-crack.html


On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor's web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.



From: "Anya Alfano"
To: "TACTICAL"
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:15:35 AM
Subject: Russian spy ring - Update - Russian double agent 'helped crack'
US spy ring

Filling in a few blanks of the story--if true, doesn't sound like Comrade
J was actually a trigger, or possibly even involved at all.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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U.S. officials deny Russian spy was trying to seduce Obama Cabinet official

homelandsecurity-consultancy.blogspot.com...

This article has been removed.

today.msnbc.msn.com...


12th person detained in Russian spy case deported
Updated 5:26 p.m. CT, Tues., July 13, 2010
A Russian man who became the 12th person taken into custody in the recent spy ring investigation has been deported from the United States, the Homeland Security Department said Tuesday.


www.emptywheel.net...


And there are a few interesting details about it. Here’s a timeline I put together:

June 9: Chapman’s laptop chats with Russian Official #1 surveilled

June 11: Obama briefed about Russian spy swap

June 16: Chapman’s laptop chats with Russian Official #1 surveilled

June 18: Obama chairs NSC meeting on Russian spy swap

June 24: Obama and Dmitri Medvedev go to Ray’s Hell Burger

June 25: Complaint against 9 spies dated

June 26: FBI collects evidence against last two remaining spies; FBI agent says to Chapman, “I know you are going back to Moscow in two weeks.”

June 27: Spies arrested

June 29: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov complains about timing of arrest; Obama reported to be miffed about timing of arrest; DOJ attributes timing to pending travel–presumably Chapman’s

Week of July 5: White House almost cancels spy swap because names of proposed spies in Russia leaked

July 10: Two weeks after FBI Agent said Chapman would be traveling to Russian in two weeks

Of particular note is the June 18 NSC meeting. Most key cabinet members that would make interesting targets for Russian spies are members of the NSC. Director of OMB attends NSC meetings that pertain to its area of responsibility. They all learned–at least in the abstract–of the looming spy trade on June 18, 2010, a week before the FBI started rolling up the spies.

Now consider the excuse for the timing of the spy arrests DOJ gave at the time.

As we previously reported, charges issued so far against the alleged “illegal” long-term Russian penetration agents do not accuse them directly of espionage—stealing or attempting to steal U.S. intelligence or defense secrets. Instead, court documents portray them as talent spotters, alleging that they were assigned to identify and ingratiate themselves with influential Americans who had access to U.S. policymakers or government secrets, the idea being that those individuals could then be targeted for more aggressive recruitment by other Russian spies.

As the timeline above makes clear, Chapman was the one about to leave the country. Also note that DOJ admitted one of the spies was targeting “a personal friend” of a “current cabinet official.”

According to court papers, the individuals who were targeted included a former high-ranking U.S. national-security official; an American working on nuclear-weapons research; and someone described by the FBI as a “prominent New York–based financier” who was “prominent in politics,” “an active fundraiser” for a U.S. political party, and “a personal friend” of a person described as “a current cabinet official.”

So the info on a cabinet official was out there–though now the FBI has revealed that the apparent intent was to set a honey trap.

Finally, look how squeamish Rahm got when asked whether Obama had triggered the timing of the arrests.

Now, on Thursday, Rahm pushed back against any indication that Obama might have been involved in the decision to roll up the spies. First, Rahm claims that the decision to arrest the spies now was entirely that of law enforcement and intelligence.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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HI honeycomb
You may think this is off topic but I assure you it is not. Now this is a real Commie SPYING.

Sure the Russians were agents but they got caught at nothing???

The administrations crew is interesting though.

I did condense the content. This guys credentials in Moon and nuclear tech are as long as your arm.
Perhaps Mossad was not directly involved. But they are the real vestige of the KGB
BUT it was his intent to pass to the Israeli's. He actually thought he was working for them.
More Mossad agents in the USA than all other countries combined
Why as an American citizen would he want to?
God forbid if he had DUAL citizenship.


en.wikipedia.org...

Stewart Nozette
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Stewart David Nozette

Born (1957-05-20) May 20, 1957 (age 54)
Chicago, Illinois, United States en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Nozette
Known for Attempting to transfer American nuclear and space technology to Israel

The FBI arrested him October 19, 2009,[5] charging him with attempted espionage, after a sting operation.[3] Nozette attempted to sell U.S. classified information to someone he believed was an Israeli Mossad operative, but was in reality an undercover Federal Bureau of Investigation employee. He pleaded guilty to one charge of espionage and was sentenced, under the terms of a plea bargain, to thirteen years in prison.[6]
Nozette was born in Chicago, Illinois on May 20, 1957,[3] to Helen and Morris Nozette.[7] He grew up in Chicago’s heavily Jewish West Rogers Park neighborhood. His parents were involved in the local reform temple. He earned a B.S. in geosciences with honors and distinction (University of Arizona, 1979), and a Ph.D. in Planetary sciences (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1983).[3][8]

He held security clearances to study nuclear material with the United States Department of Energy, and was on the National Space Council
Nozette worked as a technical consultant for Israel Aerospace Industries between 1998 and 2008. After he left the government job, Nozette was heavily involved in India's extraterrestrial Moon probe, Chandrayaan-1. He was a principal investigator of the Mini-RF instrument on the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter and a co-investigator on Chandrayaan-1.[8]
Nozette was under investigation by the Justice Department for possible fraudulent billing on a NASA contract by a nonprofit corporation he ran, "Alliance for Competitive Technology". An unnamed NASA Inspector had allegedly found billing to NASA for expenses including, among other things, three mortgages, nine credit cards, a Tennis club, pool cleaning, and the Mercedes-Benz Credit Corporation.[13] Documents found by the Justice Department while investigating this allegation included classified documents and an e-mail in which Nozette "threatened to take a classified program on which he worked to an unnamed foreign country or Israel." This information was passed along to the FBI.
According to the criminal complaint, Nozette told his espionage contact that his parents were Jewish,[7] and therefore claimed a right to return under Israel's Law of Return. He also asked allegedly for two million dollars and a passport.[3][15]

Also this from Metapedia
Stewart Nozette - Metapedia
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Nozette
en.metapedia.org...
Ties to Israel and India
From November 1998 to January 2008 Nozette worked in the United States as a technical consultant[46] for Israel Aerospace Industries[47] a wholly owned Israeli company and was paid approximately $225,000 according to court papers.[48] He earned the money from the Israelis by answering questions presented to him once a month and performing assigned tasks.[49] During the sting operation Nozette admitted to the undercover FBI agent he provided classified information to the Israelis in the past and assumed Israel Aerospace Industries was a front organization to gather intelligence.[
His father had worked on the Manhattan Project developing the atomic bomb during World War II. After the war Morris Nozette started a plastics company.[34]
FBI sting operation
On September 3, 2009 Nozette received a phone call from a FBI agent who would later identify himself as an Israeli intelligence operative.[21] Later that day they agreed to meet and have lunch at a restaurant located in the Mayflower Hotel in downtown Washington DC. During the meeting Nozette quickly showed a willingness to work for Israeli intelligence
 
Breaking the Taboo on Israel's Spying Efforts on the United ...
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www.alternet.org/world/130891/breaking_the_taboo_on_israel's_sp... - Similarto Breaking the Taboo on Israel's Spying Efforts on the United ...
Mar 10, 2009 ... Israel runs one of the most aggressive and damaging espionage networks targeting the U.S.

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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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Your link, the 2nd one is not working for me.

Now I had a thought. From my earlier posts, some of these Russian spies were using dead peoples names. Oldest trick in the book right? Also considering the lefts stance on immigration and voting?



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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I'm so glad that a few ATS'ers are doing the 'legwork' in uncovering the endgame. I just hope it is all exposed before November elections.

You will find that Obama is right dab in the middle and is the Trojan Horse in the latest coup on the U.S. Just be careful with what you uncover.


Oh, BTW, Russia has always been behind this administration's coup on the White House. I don't know if I'd call it KGB, but I'm sure KGB (or its equiv) has been involved. I mean, some secret network had to have been involved. Just as involved as the commie Americans who sold their souls to the devil. I hope smart Americans figure it out, before it is too late for us (as a whole) and make these scumbags pay dearly for their treason!



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Thank you, it feels good to know that it is appreciated. But one person can not do it alone. I think it's important that everybody who finds things like these as a matter of interest, for the betterment of our country and for all people to help contribute. It is human nature to make mistakes and to not learn from previous mistakes is to repeat the past. As the game continues it will become more refined and as many people may fall to their own follies or believe in lies to the point of their own death, that in the end it will come down to a tightly knit group of like minds, though subtle differences. I think that is a part of nature and evolution.

So welcome to the thread and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and input.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Your link, the 2nd one is not working for me.

Now I had a thought. From my earlier posts, some of these Russian spies were using dead peoples names. Oldest trick in the book right? Also considering the lefts stance on immigration and voting?


Honeycomb,

try this, I so suck at links

[/url]www.alternet.org/world/130891/breaking_the_taboo_on_israel's_sp[url\]

Back to the CHASE
First you need to understand the PAST. Both sides of the coin. HISTORY and all there is to it. STOP .I say, STOP being led around by the nose with trash op-ed news and government PROPAGANDA..
Please just read your opener. It's a total spin of a story of naught.
BUT if you break it down you will see the PROPAGANDA.
A quick read and wanting to make Russia out to be the boogie man will work. YOU are MADE to think that by the craftiness of the writer. The actual content says Russia is just doing what it should do and no harm was done.
Take it slow and BREAK IT DOWN.

There are COMMIES in the US, Europe, Australia, New Zealand
and BIG time in CANADA.

THEY are from the FORMER SOVIET UNION not the RUSSIA of today.
Prove me incorrect if you would like.

cheers ljb



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Hi sour,
What do you make of this?? Here is a real different perspective. An abbreviated part of it.

Why the Israeli Communist Party defends Assad’s regime
by Asma Agbarieh-Zahalka
www.challenge-mag.com/en/article_297/why_the_israeli_communist_party_defen
www.challenge-mag.com/en/article__297/why_the_israeli_communist_party_defen...

The following article was originlly written in Arabic as a response to Muhammad Nafa'a, the General Secretary of the Communist Party in Israel (MAKI). We offer it in English because it gives an important insight into the political and ideological discussions regarding the Arab Spring. Nafa'a has been publicly supporting the Assad regime against the popular uprising in Syria. So have 50 other communist parties. This article proposes an alternative socialist position.


ohammed Nafa’a, secretary-general of the Communist Party of Israel (Maki), recently published a series of articles in which he adopts the position of Bashar Assad and views the uprisings in Syria as an imperialist-Zionist plot. The articles were published in Al-Ittihad, Maki’s journal, and on the Modern Discussion website (in Arabic).

The secretary-general’s position is dangerous because it not only represents the Israeli party’s position, but also that of no less than 50 communist parties that were present at the congress in Brussels on May 13-15, 2011. According to the congress decision (Paragraph 5), “It is clear that Syria is the victim of destructive and provocative manipulation by American imperialism and its ally Israel, and by other reactionary forces in the region. Washington has long aimed to bring down the Syrian regime, which it categorizes as part of the ‘axis of evil’, and to replace it with a puppet regime loyal to America and its allies. We strongly oppose all intervention in or threats of aggression towards Syria by imperialist forces and Israel. We support all the national democratic forces in Syria which are acting to obtain the legitimate demands of the people.”



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Thanks for posting this incredible information.


I have always believed that the KGB infiltrated a certian global running/drinking club a long time ago. One of the slogans they place on t-shirts reads "KGB". They claim it stands for "Keep Getting Boozed", but once you realize what the club is all about, you realize what role it plays in society. During one Olympics (can't remember which year), the club was forced to discontinue selling the shirts at the event because officials believed it was promoting the KGB.

For those who haven't seen it, here's one of my favorite videos, which certainly pertains to the information and influence I'm referring to in the above paragraph.

Make no mistake, mind control and social conditioning are dangerous weapons.


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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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Hi aft,
Was that guy with the spot on his head USSR dude or a Russian man???
Do you know the difference??
thanks ljb



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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Hi aft,
Was that guy with the spot on his head USSR dude or a Russian man???
Do you know the difference??
thanks ljb


Are you talking about Mikhail Gorbachev?
www.historyguide.org...

Born in the agricultural region of Stavropol (1931), Gorbachev studied law at Moscow University and in 1953 married a philosophy student, Raisa Maksimovna Titorenko. Returning to Stavropol, he moved gradually upward in the local Communist party. In 1970, he became Stavropol party leader and was elected to the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. Regarded as a skilled technocrat and a reformer, Gorbachev joined (1978) the Communist party secretariat as agriculture secretary, and in 1980 he joined the Politburo as the protég?of Yuri Andropov. After Andropov's ascension to party leadership, Gorbachev assumed (1983) full responsibility for the economy.

Following the death of Chernenko in 1985, Gorbachev was appointed General Secretary of the party despite being the youngest member of the Politburo. He embarked on a comprehensive program of political, economic, and social liberalization under the slogans of glasnost (openness) and perestroika (restructuring). The nuclear disaster at Chernobyl (1986) forced Gorbachev to allow even greater freedom of expression. The government released political prisoners, allowed increased emigration, attacked corruption, and encouraged the critical reexamination of Soviet history.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Hey thanks for posting that. I don't need to watch it, that was one of the videos I mentioned earlier.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Your right I will try to suck in the information. The names are the hardest part for me to remember. I know some of them have been mentioned several times so I will try to investigate those names.

Just a quick couple tips, when posting the URL just copy and paste. No need for the tags but if you do use tags the proper way is open tag in brackets URL and close with /URL or whatever code you are tagging. Make sure when you post external links to use the EX-TEXT tab at the top when you are posting, then just simply copy and paste. Anyways just trying to help, it can be confusing when you don't use the tags because it's hard to tell the difference between the external links and your post itself.

Hope that helps.




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