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Is Obama planning a COUP by discrediting the Secret Service?

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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32
Its simply laughable now. Obama is responsible for anything to some of you guys.

So far the tally...

Hes a kenyan muslim ( with ties to very evil christian pastors) who stole the election because he disenfranchised white voters and isnt even the legal potus. He was behind the bp oil spill, he wants death panels, a communist, a marxist, and a socialist, hes plotting the next 9/11 to take over martial law, and now creates a coup to dismantle his secret service agents so he can again instate martial law... I know im leaving something out...

what will your imaginations do when he is out of office in 8 months or 4 years???
edit on 17-4-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)


You forgot the birth certificate.





posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
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Interesting idea, star and flag for you.

But doesn't the President already have complete control over the Secret Service, including the selection of the details?



You are correct. He hand selects them, one by one.
There is something fishy going on here, all the hookers were foreign nationals.
Smells like a set-up.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Seriously? Amazing so few of you understand the importance of this. There is no such thing as "off duty" when you are the President's detail overseas. A call could come in any time and these people need to be ready.

Two, most of them are married guys. Cheating is not a crime, but it is the height of disloyalty and for an SS person, loyalty is everything.

Three, these idiots were bragging in the club that they were part of the President's detail. That compromised security and the mission. It set them up to be attacked outside the club by gangs or to be blackmailed by prostitutes -- a few hidden camera pics and the threats can roll. Hey, gringo, I'll mail a picture of your skinny d*** in my $$$$$ to your wife and mabe the Times if you don't tell my friend here what he wants to know (like maybe the President's plans for the next day). These men COMPROMISED the security of a President of the U.S. Now every country will have the hottest spies posing as prostitutes to entice the all-too-eager-to-fail SS men as they travel with the President around the world. It is an astounding failure of character, decision making and disloyalty. What it tells me is the the SS has a major gap in how it is selecting qualified candidates.

Why is it now that all our elite LEs and military men have become such arrogant &$%$*, devoid of moral character. This can be seen in all the sadistic Blackwater behavior (reported all over this site) and I wa hoping that was an exception. This action of a HUGE number from the highest profile security detail in the world shows what is the new normal.

We are such a country of rot with every group having any power or authority it makes me physically ill.
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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I think someone else is trying to remove the SS so they can infiltrate someone to knock the pres off.

This sort of incident would normally be kept VERY hush hush, why was it plastered all over the media?



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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So Obama, the President is going to coup himself by setting up, not his own security detail, but, an few guys on the advance travel detail and getting them in trouble? How does that even make any sense?



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad
So Obama, the President is going to coup himself by setting up, not his own security detail, but, an few guys on the advance travel detail and getting them in trouble? How does that even make any sense?


I'll type slowly for you.

By getting rid of certain SS agents that he feels are not loyal to him, would give him the opportunity to replace them with those who might be more loyal.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Here is an interesting radio interview by Glenn Beck (yeah, I know, you guys don't like him) and a former SS agent about this very conversation just posted:

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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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"They tend to have no life outside the Service"

Really? What makes you an authority. I grew up in the VA DC suburbs. My large family grew up knowing many SS agents and their families. One of my sister lived next door to one and he'd come to she an her husband's parties. My brother had one living three doors down. "No life outside the Service"? "Robots"? What dumb comments base on zero knowledge of reality. My guess is you've never met one.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by MrSpad
So Obama, the President is going to coup himself by setting up, not his own security detail, but, an few guys on the advance travel detail and getting them in trouble? How does that even make any sense?


I'll type slowly for you.

By getting rid of certain SS agents that he feels are not loyal to him, would give him the opportunity to replace them with those who might be more loyal.



Type as slow as you like because your going to have to explain how the President coups himself. Your also going to have to explain how he decides who is not loyal and then tricks them into hitting a strip club and getting some hookers.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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So what makes this one different? Why this one? And if your theory is correct, I wonder just how close they got?


Pure speculation follows, but every good lie has an ounce of truth to it. Perhaps they did leak the schedule, but not by accident in the hotel room. Perhaps they weren't sent home, but actually AWOL? Perhaps there were even strippers involved, but they were foreign agents?

I'm guessing if this hit the news at all, then the plot got very close to the president, and they were afraid the story would break, so they pre-emptively broke their own story to mitigate the fallout.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by MrSpad
So Obama, the President is going to coup himself by setting up, not his own security detail, but, an few guys on the advance travel detail and getting them in trouble? How does that even make any sense?


I'll type slowly for you.

By getting rid of certain SS agents that he feels are not loyal to him, would give him the opportunity to replace them with those who might be more loyal.



They put willingly sacrifice their own lives in exchange for his. If there are any that aren't loyal to him, then he should certainly replace them with ones who are loyal. This isn't the military we are talking about that swears allegiance to the Constitution. This is the Secret Service that swears to sacrifice their own life to protect a president's. There would be no reason for a coup, he could just fire them.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by pajoly
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"They tend to have no life outside the Service"

Really? What makes you an authority. I grew up in the VA DC suburbs. My large family grew up knowing many SS agents and their families. One of my sister lived next door to one and he'd come to she an her husband's parties. My brother had one living three doors down. "No life outside the Service"? "Robots"? What dumb comments base on zero knowledge of reality. My guess is you've never met one.


I had a very good friend that worked for the Secret Service for assignments. She had weeks and months off at a time, and she spent that time in her regular duties, and partying with us at the beach. She was a normal woman, except when she was in a Tuxedo crawling through elevator shafts, LOL!



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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If this sort of thing had happened in the U.S. it would have been hushed up pretty easily, I'm sure. The cops would have come, seen it was S.S. guys and they would have just let it go. We would have never heard a thing about it. But this happened in a foreign country where no U.S. agencies have any real control and it got out into the press before anything could be done.

I really don't think this is Obama's doing, all of this happened before he ever got to Columbia by the S.S. advance team who was there making preparations for his arrival.

Personally, I could care less if some S.S. guys are banging some prostitutes. They work hard, risk their lives daily for the President and if they need some R&R, fine. Prostitution isn't even illegal in Columbia in certain areas, and this was apparently a legal brothel, much like in Nevada. So these guys weren't even breaking the law.

If anything, maybe this happened because someone in the Columbia wanted to discredit Obama throw a little tarnish on his trip for some other political gain.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM
I don't believe the allegations for a second. I think someone put the charges on the tab, and the agent disputed it because there was no one else in the room. All the reports about agents bragging in a strip club? That sounds like utter BS to me. I think they are being set up. Perhaps as an excuse to establish a security force separate from the secret service in preparation for the dictatorship to come, since secret service might be a threat to a dictatorship.


holy ignorance batman

the "guest" didn't check out on time (7:00 am) so the hotel sent somoeone to check on her. they knocked on the door. the woman was making a scene about getting paid, and people started to notice, and it became a story from there.

in what world do hookers get paid anything other than cash ?

tab ?

really ?

put down the haterade

this nonsense reminds me of the "bush will end term limits, dictator for life" threads

where is he now ?

lol



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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So what makes this one different? Why this one? And if your theory is correct, I wonder just how close they got?


Pure speculation follows, but every good lie has an ounce of truth to it. Perhaps they did leak the schedule, but not by accident in the hotel room. Perhaps they weren't sent home, but actually AWOL? Perhaps there were even strippers involved, but they were foreign agents?

I'm guessing if this hit the news at all, then the plot got very close to the president, and they were afraid the story would break, so they pre-emptively broke their own story to mitigate the fallout.


fwiw the schdule, and the SS assignments, are not released until the last second, and had not yet been released when this happened, so any info gleaned would be useless at best

there were marines, ariforce, army spec forces, officers and supervisors invlolved, and some SS guys

this was boys away from home getting drunk and stupid and the media devouring it

when babe ruth used to travel , the press travelled with him. as a married man, he had floozies on the train, the media never wrote about it. this is more about commentary on modern news cycles than anything else



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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One thing is almost for certain, the true story most likely has nothing to do with the SS agents being with hookers.

So who is the winner in this situation, or what policy or agenda benefits from it?



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:16 PM
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Interesting! Perhaps he is heading off a coup? It is hard to believe that the Secret Service would compromise their duty and integrity in such a way. Perhaps the deluge was planned for them? I think that your suggested conspiracy could be quite plausible.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Obama without the SS? I don't see it. Let's think of another way to blame this on Obama.
I am sure if we put our heads together there are many dubious connections.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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I called the DC field office and was told something that no government official has ever said to me: "I'm sorry sir, but we aren't answering any questions from the media."
They really are the Secret Service.


But the SS (the similarity always strikes me) DID make an official statement on the 14th that bears on this conversation - NONE of the agents relieved of duty were members of the President's protection detail. They were uniformed officers and agents in charge of general security in advance of the President's visit to Cartagena.

Secret Service Statement (PDF)

Their wall of silence is disturbing though. All I asked was if the President could select the members of his personal detail, and you should have heard the way I was shut down. It wasn't what the agent I spoke to said, it was how he said it; with anger and bile. I suppose it would look innocent enough in a written transcript, but I'm here to tell you that the agent I spoke to had ZERO love for the press.
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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News flash: There is no "dictatorship" on the way.

Dare I say, there's nothing on the way.



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