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Originally posted by CynicalWabbit
On the night before JFK was assassinated his entire Secret Service detail left him in a hotel room in Fort Worth guarded by a fireman while they went out and partied until 3 am.
Originally posted by bknapple32
Its simply laughable now. Obama is responsible for anything to some of you guys.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Perhaps as an excuse to establish a security force separate from the secret service in preparation for the dictatorship to come, since secret service might be a threat to a dictatorship.
Yes, of couse..that is the most reasonable conclusion one could come up with.
Ho-gate is not just some guys getting horny, its about a guy trying to become a dictator, so therefore destroying his bodyguards reputation for...___...and then somehow that will allow the red army to roll in...
Someone told me once that the secret service was made up by humans that actually got randy on their time off...but that can't be true...because you know...global warming or whatnot..
The Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy all acted with remarkable sluggishness when the firing began. Perhaps it was due to the visit they had paid to a "beatnik" nightspot in Fort Worth, where they stayed until early that morning. (The club, The Cellar, was owned by an acquaintance of Jack Ruby who had connections with both big-time gamblers and police officials.) Jim Marrs. Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy (p. 15). Kindle Edition.
After midnight the night before [the assassination], some reporters called me from the Press Club [of Fort Worth], which didn't have a license to sell drinks after midnight. [They] said they had about 17 members of the Secret Service and asked if they could bring them to my place. I said sure. About 3:30 [A.M.], these Secret Service men were sitting around giggling about how the firemen were guarding the President over at the Hotel Texas. That night got the Cellar mentioned in the Warren Report. Jim Marrs. Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy (p. 248). Kindle Edition.
Originally posted by bknapple32
Its simply laughable now. Obama is responsible for anything to some of you guys.
So far the tally...
Hes a kenyan muslim ( with ties to very evil christian pastors) who stole the election because he disenfranchised white voters and isnt even the legal potus. He was behind the bp oil spill, he wants death panels, a communist, a marxist, and a socialist, hes plotting the next 9/11 to take over martial law, and now creates a coup to dismantle his secret service agents so he can again instate martial law... I know im leaving something out...
what will your imaginations do when he is out of office in 8 months or 4 years???edit on 17-4-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by phantomjack
Is it possible that the President and his puppeteers are using this incident to discredit the SS and force a total replacement of the service by the President's own, chosen, men?
What say you, ATS?
Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
reply to post by phantomjack
Interesting idea, star and flag for you.
But doesn't the President already have complete control over the Secret Service, including the selection of the details?
Originally posted by randomname
he ratted them out, thats for sure. i doubt, in the history of the secret service, that not one agent before them was screwing hookers over seas or going to bars and picking up women.
a job requirement of the secret service is to give your life for the president. and the president can't at least try to return the favor by looking the other way while they get laid off duty.
obama should have kept this in house.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Its the secret service...aka, his bodyguards.
If he wanted to replace them, he wouldn't need a "coup". he could simply fire em all and restaff with different agents..his choice. the SS is not above the presidency.
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by phantomjack
So, just because undergo very invasive background checks and investigations, they arent capable of corruption?
I wonder if the presidents pick their own SS agents or do they carry over from previous admins?
Reason I'm asking is because it seems that almost every dept of Obamas admin has one kind of scandal or another going, the highest being, (not counting him) Eric Holder.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by randomname
he ratted them out, thats for sure. i doubt, in the history of the secret service, that not one agent before them was screwing hookers over seas or going to bars and picking up women.
a job requirement of the secret service is to give your life for the president. and the president can't at least try to return the favor by looking the other way while they get laid off duty.
obama should have kept this in house.
Obama?
Obama is suddenly the msm?
Obama simply weighed in on it saying it was not approprate (to the effect..you can tell how interested I am in this). But can you imagine the outcry if it was indeed ignored? suddenly it would be Obama singlehandedly purchased all the prostitutes and wants to make a big prostitute white house or whatever.
Personally, I don't care. Prostitution is legal there, the SS are humans, they should have paid the extra 47 bucks, and people need to get out of other peoples bedrooms. The SS is simply a security agency, not some elected politician...we don't expect them to have no desires in their off time....just make sure the president doesn't get shot and there you go, job well done...have some tequila, catch a donkey show, etc.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by phantomjack
I'll agree on one issue. There is WAY more to this story, because even the racist news when a restaurant refused service to black Secret Service agents didn't get this much coverage. So, why are they all over this issue?
I have to disagree about any coup though. It wouldn't help Obama any to discredit the SS, and he has had more threats on him and more security surrounding him than any president in history, so there is no way he wants to screw up his relation with these guys!
Perhaps it was expanding the size and scope of the SS to accomodate Obama that allowed a weaker crop of candidates to get through? Perhaps it is an environment of weak leadership under Obama that allowed the standards to be lowered? I think those are strong possibilities, but honestly I think it is much bigger than that..... I think there was some type of event that threatened the president's life, and I think these agents were involved, and this prostitution thing is a way to downplay the threat while still destroying the men involved.