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Kindergartner handcuffed, taken to police station after allegedly throwing tantrum

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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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The problem here is what all of you who think this the school and cops went too far would've done. It's obvious that this 6 year old girl has ZERO parenting going on at home, because she is under the assumption that she can do whatever she wants.


All that happened here was simply a lesson was taught, and a much needed lesson. She wasn't spanked, beaten or anything else horrible, she was simply told that she can't just do whatever she wants whenever she wants.


All of you bleeding heart sheeple out there crack me up.




posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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because the school staff would have then been sued or charged for putting their hands on the child. Schools are in a no win situation, if they discipline an unrully child they are racked over the coals for inapproriate action, "oh my the school centered out and tramatized my little angel by making it stand in a corner", if they follow procedure and call the cops for an out of control little hellian they are racked over the coals for calling the cops on a 6yr old.....sorry if anything the people that should be accused and investigated are the parents and child, it's their lack of parenting skills, or the home environment. The child should be tested for mental illness, or find out if its just a spoiled brat.

In the land of sue anyone who looks at your funny, nobody wins and everyone loses in a situation like this.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Have youy ever had the "pleasure" of being handcuffed?

I'd rather get a good ol' spanking.

PC BS all the time.. "Zero parenting" because a kid goes into a tantrum.


"She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days."


Did anyone even CONCIDER this might have an underlying medical condition?

Inexcusable and nobody will change my mind about that whatever is said. I also find it peculiar that there is NO mention whatsoever as to what lead to the blowout, she might have been provoked in some way.

ETA: the handcuffs are also mentioned in the article, she had complained because they were to tight, and knowing kids (and handcuffs, i never said i've been a shining beacon of civility in my younger years), the more you struggle and move, the tighter the cuffs get. Ever seen a 6yo that sits still for 2 minutes?
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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Like all others that are linked already?

100 arrest requests by 1 school alone in a few years time?

Including for blowing up a condom? O_o

I think YOU are the disinfo agent here.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Imightknow
The problem here is what all of you who think this the school and cops went too far would've done. It's obvious that this 6 year old girl has ZERO parenting going on at home, because she is under the assumption that she can do whatever she wants.


All that happened here was simply a lesson was taught, and a much needed lesson. She wasn't spanked, beaten or anything else horrible, she was simply told that she can't just do whatever she wants whenever she wants.


All of you bleeding heart sheeple out there crack me up.


Here's the problem I've not really seen mentioned with this approach.

If the government can now enforce this type of discipline upon our children- even at this age- for 'natural' developmental behavior, then there is NOTHING the government can't do when it comes to usurping parenting decisions.

In other words, opposing this type of state action isn't really a bleeding heart position at all! In fact, it's just another 'big' government move to regulate the lives of normal people into compliance with a world vision that has nothing to do with safety, peace or prosperity.


I think it nuts to consider it appropriate to call law enforcement for a six year old's tantrum, handcuffing her and then incarcerating her.

What's next? The same for children who do not eat all of the government's recommended food groups?

All of you people complaining about the absence of proper parenting are barking mad if you think the government will do better. And if you succeed with your world view, good luck trying to parent at all when a cabal of bureaucrats get to make most or all of your parenting decisions.


Now, who are the real sheeple?



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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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Loam, I agree with you about the slippery slope. I think that part stems from the charges actually being filed. That is where we head down the slippery slope. When the school had exhausted their efforts, the police were called and couldn't fix the situation, the mother refused to answer her phone, the options were dwindling, and at that point Child Services should have been called, but instead they decided to make an arrest? That is where they left the track and went into lala land! Then, they actually filed charges against a 6 year old? That is way off in lala land!

I believe, if someone can have criminal responsibility, then they can have also have regular responsibilities such as drinking, driving, etc.

Yes, the government has overstepped its bounds, but I think we all know that already. There is no common sense left in government, there is no liberty, there is no personal responsibility. It is all about the attorneys involved, and the politics involved, and the people are just pawns to be played.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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I'm not sure I've got very much confidence in the parents of this child. The mother goes on to say this:


"Call the police? Is that the first step?"


Umm... no... the first step was to call you... six times!


The police officer called to the school later wrote that he "noticed damage to school property and possible assault of other students and staff. I made six attempts to contact her mother via telephone."


At least they tried to contact the parents first, which is what any school would do in this case. What are they supposed to do if the parents don't answer? The kid was being a danger to herself, and to her classmates. I can see how they were at their whits end. They'd be damned if they actually used physical force to subdue the kid, and they'd be damned if they just let her destroy everything. In this day, it's apparently the worst thing in the world for a school to discipline an unruly kid, so they did all they could have done. They would have had hell to pay if they laid a hand on the girl so they got the authorities to do it.

It's not like she was tazered... physically abused... or treated unfairly in any way:


Swicord, the police chief, denied the child was held in a holding cell, with the Associated Press reporting that he said she was held in the department's squad room and given a Coke to try to calm her down.


I say its good that the girl was "a little shaken up". She needed it. Maybe she'll think twice before throwing another tantrum like that. I'm not sure if others here agree with me, but whiny, tantrum-throwing children need to be put in their place at one point or another, or else they're behavior is just going to get worse.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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I agree with you completely... It's not upto the government to decide what the best way is to parent your kids.

Next to that, there was public outrage here in NL when they made it law that the "parenting spanking" was now labeled child abuse (didnt stop them from pushing it trough though)

I really miss the outrage here, are we really that desensitized already?

Being locked up with handcuffs and all (even in the friggin holding cell) might have very well traumatized this girl.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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That wasnt the school's first step, it was what the POLICE did.. so yes, calling the police WAS the first step.

But let's just keep denying the police state ur in, i guess it must take an outsider to really see it when you arent slowly indoctrinated into it.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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I saw this on the news last night...

Wasn't remotely surprised.


As we say "Only in America"


:shk:



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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This is just one of so MANY examples, I stopped documenting them.

A Conspiracy Against Children: Exactly who is out of control?

Our culture is stark raving mad in my opinion.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by oaf21

I'm not sure I've got very much confidence in the parents of this child. The mother goes on to say this:


"Call the police? Is that the first step?"


Umm... no... the first step was to call you... six times!


The police officer called to the school later wrote that he "noticed damage to school property and possible assault of other students and staff. I made six attempts to contact her mother via telephone."




at this moment in time a lot of people are having great difficulty putting food on the table nevermind trying to keep phones in operation.

and how many people will have their explotative employers sack them for answering a phone at work?

in another couple of years they will probably be locking up the kids because they couldn't get a hold of the parents on facebook.




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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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We can all agree that arresting a child is bad but we have to deal with facts here and many people on here are embracing ignorance. That is not our motto.

THE PARENTS WERE CALLED 6 TIMES!!!!

THE SCHOOL CAN NOT PHYSICALLY TOUCH THE CHILD, THAT IS CHILD ABUSE.

THE CHILD WAS A THREAT TO HERSELF, HER PEERS, AND TO THE STAFF.

SHE WAS NOT PUT IN A HOLDING CELL, IT WAS IN THE SQUAD ROOM, GIVEN A COKE IN FACT.

YOU ARE ALL FOCUSING ON THIS ONE KID. OTHER KIDS WERE INVOLVED. THEY WERE PROBABLY TRAUMATIZED BY THE TANTRUM.

THE POLICE KNOW THEY CAN BE SUED FOR THIS KIND OF ACTION. THEY WERE GIVEN NO OTHER CHOICE AS THE SCHOOL CANNOT DETAIN THE KIDS THEMSELVES.

THE POLICE WERE DOING THEIR JOBS. SERVE AND PROTECT. THE WERE CALLED TO PROTECT THE WELL BEING OF EVERYONE ELSE AROUND. THIS IS A PARENT ISSUE. WE SHOULD ALL BE THANKFUL THAT MAYBE THIS KID CAN GET SOME HELP NOW. THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES TO LIST THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM, SO WE CAN'T NECESSARILY BLAME THE PARENTS EITHER.

This is disturbing to me. The fact that there are so many members caught up in the sensationalism of this article. Pay attention to your kids and I am 90% sure that this won't be a problem for you. It is scary and there are abuses of power. This is not one of them. THIS IS TAKING PRECAUTION. Your other choices are try to calm the kid down yourself (failed), school detainment (lawsuit), or throw the kid out in the streets (lawsuit).

DENY IGNORANCE!!



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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WHY Handcuffs ?

Probably he had left the Tazer gun in the car, after all they just can't take any form of disrespect, even if it is from a six year old girl. It seems that the latest qualifications you need to get into the force, is that you have sociapathic tendancies and are actually Brain Dead !



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Why are you shouting?

The sad fact is that you and so many others see nothing wrong with a society that finds it acceptable to cuff and detain a six year old girl.

Its 2012 and american society has failed its children.

Americans don't know how to handle a six year old child and as a result turn to the government law enforcers to detain her.

You have been brainwashed by the crime and punishment mentality that you don't know how to deal with children anymore.

Its very disturbing.

Please calm down and stop shouting at me.

Thank you.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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I was shouting to get my point across. Nothing else could have been done. I find it disgusting that so many people on this site find it acceptable for a child to threaten all those other children. There was no other choice and that was my point. My belief is that the school should have been allowed to paddle this kid and detain her. That is not how this works anymore. This is what we are left with. You nor I can change it, so get over it. This is the best outcome for a situation like this in today's world. What would you have done in the situation?



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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I actually work in an Emergency Department that deals with minor mental health issues, like this. You may not think of it as mental heath, but where do you think the parents go for help. The police bring them to us instead of jail. But I have on more than one occasion seen handcuffs used, would you prefer they man handle them, lock them in a closet or just put up with the child's behavior? Doesn't matter how old you are, you can't put others at risk to get hurt. She was traumatized by the holding cell... hmmm... how do you think the rest of the children that saw the child's behavior at school are coping with it? Bet some don't want to go back! There are consequences in this world and they need to be realized younger in life before you are on your own as an adult to figure it out for yourself. Starts at home!



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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That is exactly right PsychNurse. And thank you for your efforts in helping people like this. I have been that child myself but with introverted tantrums. Had I not gotten help, I would not be here today. This child and those around her are a lot safer because of this.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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you should be careful with your shouting.

someone may get scared by your tantrum.

remember a six year old got cuffed and detained for a tantrum.
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