Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by nenothtu
I have no answers here, but I am living the reality. To fix the problem, I mean really fix it would take a change of mind set for us.Stopping the
madness will take us stopping the enabling. That takes courage and hope and then we will change this back to what it once was.
That's exactly right - there is no easy fix at this point.
Greed makes the world go around, it appears. There is a biblical verse that is often misquoted as "money is the root of all evil." The ACTUAL quote
says "the love
of money is the root of all evil." Greed, pure and simple, is what got us where we are.
The greed of the "corporate entities". the greed of the unionized workers. The greed of the "poor" looking at the "rich" and wanting someone to give
them "their" share of that, as if anyone has a claim on what they have not produced. The greed of the Pied Piers in DC promising the greed of the
have-nots that they would "give" them something for nothing, knowing all the while that they can't give what they don't have, and that they will have
to TAKE it from someone else... but always, ALWAYS keeping more than their own share for themselves.
The greed of the Socialists thinking they have some sort of "right" to what they have not worked for, merely by calling
workers". The greed of the capitalists, thinking they can bleed off more profit than was agreed upon to begin with by throwing a few people over a
barrel and watching the rest of the fearful fall into line... after all, that might affect THEIR greed of it filters over to them, so they'd BETTER
fall in a line!
Greed. And none can see that their own greed is even there, much less an integral part of a far larger greed-driven cycle. It feeds itself - the greed
from the top stimulates the greed at the bottom, and the greed at the bottom in turn strengthens the greed at the top by feeding it of it's own
I don't care at all for such abstract notions of "who owns the means of production". If I own them, I will do with them as I see fit, either for
success or for failure. if, on the other hand, someone else has a say in how they are run, then I do not "own" them by any stretch of the imagination,
and I will walk away from them, just as fast as I can, and let those others operate them as THEY see fit, either for success or for failure. There is
no such thing as "workers owning the means of production". By making a plurality out of ownership (the same could be said of corporations), no one
really "owns" it at all any more, except on paper. If anything, the State owns the means, and just tells the workers that they somehow "own" the means
to placate them and keep them working, same as corporations do but telling the workers they are somehow benefiting from working there. It ALL plays on
the greed of the workers to enrich someone else.
My own personal solution is to control my own means, and let other folks look out for theirs. When I make a contract, I do what I agreed to do for the
price they agreed to pay, and I don't gripe about it. If their price is too low, I don't make the contract to begin with. If they fail to pay what
they agreed, I walk away with the job undone. They can do it their DAMN selves if that's the way they want to work it.
I don't use credit at all much less live on it like most folks do. Other people can willingly walk into debt slavery if their greed leads them that
way. I'm not going to follow that Pied Piper who promised one thing to their greed, and delivers quite a different thing to their corpus.
Like I said, that's just MY solution. Other people can let the debtors wring blood from their noses as they're being led along all they like. Chase
that next newer ipod for all I care. Just be aware of where that road will lead you to, and don't complain when you arrive.
edit on 2012/4/18 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)