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IRS Travel Ban: Revoking Citizenship By Stealth (Monday, April 16, 2012)

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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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www.infowars.com...


“There is no requirement that the tax payer be guilty of or even charged with tax evasion, fraud, or any criminal offense — only that the citizen is alleged to owe the IRS back taxes of $50,000 or more,” reports the Daily Economist.




“It takes away your right to enter or exit the country based upon a non-judicial IRS determination that you owe taxes,” Constitutional Attorney Angel Reyes told FOX Business. “It’s a scary thought that our congressional representatives want to give the IRS the power to detain US citizens over taxes, which could very well be in dispute.”




While U.S. citizens will be treated as guilty until proven innocent with regard to tax delinquency under this bill, individuals and corporations that have avoided hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes continue to escape any scrutiny whatsoever from the IRS.


Slowly but surely they are taking away our rights and our freedom.
If this passes it would be insane. How can they pass this crap?
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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by eyeseaewe
How can they pass this crap?


Because we don't "allow" or disallow them to do anything anymore, they do as they please and are only concerned with controlling us, not serving us. Oh the irony in it all, we actually decide every 2 and 4 years what group of people are going to be our zoo keepers.

If someone can't see that we have already lost our freedoms then they are absolutely delusional. We don't have to actually lose our rights to not be free, all that is required is to elect those whom seek to control us.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Ha! I assumed the IRS probably already had this power. I guess that means I'm jaded lol. My old man has always been a smart savy guy very suspicious of our government. He doesn't believe the stuff I tell him is going on these days. The water temperature keeps rising but the frog just sits there. Poor frog.


ETA I can see the logic behind this. A lot of folks would be tempted to "dine n dash" on a $50k tax bill.
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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by eyeseaewe
How can they pass this crap?
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easy watch'em do it.


Originally posted by Nucleardiver

Originally posted by eyeseaewe


Oh the irony in it all, we actually decide every 2 and 4 years what group of people are going to be our zoo keepers.



speak for yourself...

you got to be kidding
if you think we have any
say At All
In who our "zoo keepers" will be.

its decided for you



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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I can certainly see the logic as well.......in another nation with another form of Government.

In this case, they are taking a God Given (By our creator.. Says so, right there at the top) right to freedom and ability to travel and restricting that for a violation tax structure. So.....on one hand, God has given me this right as a human being....and on the other...I have Uncle Sammy saying my heart can be God's but my butt belongs to Uncle.

Umm.. Hey, that line of garbage works for recruits in Boot Camp. I'm not 19 and this isn't Boot. I'm not buying the logic and while I don't believe I'll ever owe $50,000.......It doesn't matter. There are many many things I'll never do, but that doesn't make it right for others to be abused and violated for it themselves.


It's not about money. It's not about rich and poor. It's a battle of principle for the basic concept of FREEDOM vs. Government. It's coming time to choose ideological lines in this battle and telling us we can no longer exit the nation because we owe Uncle tax money is one step closer to the day that choice is no choice at all.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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I was just thinking that I can see them modifying this so it includes any debt owed to the feds.

Student loans, home loans, etc.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by eyeseaewe
I was just thinking that I can see them modifying this so it includes any debt owed to the feds.

Student loans, home loans, etc.


kinda like a
Soft Prison America...
keep your slaves from leaving
or seeking employment elsewhere...



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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This is a dangerous slippery slope which can only get worse. First it will be for supposedly owing Uncle Sugar $50K. Then it'll be any amount that he says we owe. Then it'll be because you owe a traffic ticket, and finally it will be anybody who visits websites like ATS.

Might as well cross the Mexican border and catch a flight out from there. That border is porous as hell and people walk back and forth unmolested all day long.

As far as those traitors in congress, they can all ride the slippery slope off a cliff.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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Well I have less than twenty thousand in debt and the government owes me tax return so I'm good. Ha! :-)



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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They already do this with child support. Owe money, no passport. Have passport and owe money, passport revoked.


If you owe $2,500 or more in child support, you are not eligible to receive a U.S. passport. You should make arrangements to pay the state where child support is owed BEFORE you submit your application for a U.S. passport.


travel.state.gov...



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus[/i
Might as well cross the Mexican border and catch a flight out from there. That border is porous as hell and people walk back and forth unmolested all day long.


It's just a hunch, but I have this sinking feeling that Mexican Border Patrol won't be quite as nice as ours. I don't picture the Mexican Federal Police or Mexican Military giving us all water bottles and kind words as we're collected up and ..well..there is another thing huh? I'll bet THEY don't just ride us back to the border and let us go, either. Imagine that...if we found the Southern Border guarded....from the OTHER side. lol.. Oh the Irony that would be under those circumstances.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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But Wrabbit,

we say you owe $50000.

Does not matter if true or not.

Ya know, I hate traveling now because of the TSA anyway.

I have to go back to Michigan soon for a week.

Dho...



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by DonVoigt
Well I have less than twenty thousand in debt and the government owes me tax return so I'm good. Ha! :-)


Someone else said the same thing but the point is it doesn't matter what you say.

The IRS says your debt is over $50,000.

You Ain't Going Nowhere.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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well their gonna need to prove it cause I can and I ain't goin anywhere anyway I love it here all my family is in close proximity I ain't got no reason to go anywhere, I love it here, just wish I was making a little more money



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Right I agree with you. I don't have any plans on leaving I'm happy here.


I'm American and one of my rights is being able to leave if I wish. They shouldn't be able to take my rights away just because the blew 700 billion dollars.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Like I said they have to prove their claim which means their gonna have to prove me wrong and that is not gonna happen proof is what counts



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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I can fly out of the country easily enough. Not that I am debt to the IRS or other federal agencies, but the funny thing about knowledge...they just can't seem to take that away. Since I know how to fly a plane, I could fly it right on out.

Now what happens when it lands is where things become interesting.... but suffice it to say, I can leave any time I so desire.

And as a side note, I do not I have to limit myself to air travel as I can operate a variety of vehicles and modes of transportation. 330 million people requires a lot of manpower to contain. I wish them luck on that if it ever came down to push versus shove.
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