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Topic started on 16-4-2012 @ 06:10 PM by bobthealie11

According to pythagoruem numerology I have a master number 11 but according to Chaldean numerology Im a 7. Which system is more accurate?

reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 06:41 PM by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS

reply to post by bobthealie11

I have often been conflicted with the same question...

On one hand, you have a number system that in the number 10 includes the number 0. And one can argue that in order for there to be 1 there has to be none(0).

On the other hand, in order to define 10, implies an addition of a digit, which then should exclude any notion of nothingness, for 10 is a derivative of 1+2+3+4=10, which doesn't contain a prerequisite of 0. So, is it then faulty to even have a 0 in the notation of 10?

Here's the way I see it...

If everything can bee seen as stemming from a singularity, this would imply that 1 should be the start. Not zero... When we identify an object, or even a group of objects..., it would only make sense that applying a number to them would have to start with 1. To start with zero, would to be identifying an object that isn't actually there, and would be a waste of time.

So all in all... if i'm not mistaken as to the characteristics of the two different numerology systems... Chaldean numerology doesn't us the number 0. This to me, would be more appropriate. Which then would also coincide with the notion that there was no year 0, and in fact started with one.

I still hold any and all Pythagorean definitions of numbers and their characteristics as being the most correct between the two. The one that I find to be the most accurate, and a construct of deeper reasoning is that of Mayan Numerology. 1-13. It's been a while since I've had any in depth thought about the subject though...

Although that will soon be changing, for my friend will be returning back to the country, and is determined to write the longest book possible in regards to numerology, and he wants my help. Only because he claims that my reasoning skills will be a huge contribution to his writings.
I thought I used to be fairly acquainted with numerology... this dude has an entire computed dedicated to it! With multiple programs, charts, solar bliggity blah blahs and so forth. Truly amazing the depth in which one can attempt to apply numerology.

All in all, go with Chaldean in my opinion, which is subject to change...

reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 07:01 PM by NorEaster

The modern Pythagorean Method - based on 1-9 and each letter of the Latin alphabet paired up with its sequential number - is a lazy migration that occurred in the Middle Ages from the Greek alphabet to the more commonly used Latin. It completely destroyed the entire premise that Numerology was originally predicated on - the sound of a person's name when spoken aloud in their own language, dialect and regional accent.

Chaldean is the actual method, but again, it's not about the letters in the name. It's about the name - the entire birth name - when spoken aloud by the parents and the person who was given that name. The tonal sound as the entire name is pronounced by the people who use the name as associated with the person whose name it is.

Here's an example of how it works - I'll use MARIE as it is often pronounced when it's the middle name of a girl. This specific name can be pronounced pretty differently depending on the local/regional accent involved.

MAREE 4121 - 8

MUHREE 4621 - 13/4

MREE 421 - 7

MEHREE 4121 - 8

As you can see, the specific pronunciation can make a pretty big difference. Also, when you look at the spelling, the I isn't counted at all, and the double E is treated like one version of a single E (a long E). A name like ANNE would only have two numbers (AN) with the second N and the E ignored.

I've been doing Numberscopes for decades and never liked what I saw until I discovered Leeya Brooke Thompson's research and finally found out why the results were generally murky at best. Now the charts are really impressive. Her book The Wisdom of Sound and Numbers is the best book in the business as far as calculating. The best book in the business for number meanings and translation is Numerology and the Divine Triangle. Nothing touches the combination if you use the 1st book for calculations and the 2nd book for translation.

reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 07:44 PM by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS

reply to post by NorEaster

Awesome! These are all things that I quickly skimmed over once before, but forgot pretty much everything you mentioned.

Now I've got some interesting aspects of numerology to become acquainted with, in preparing for my friends return!

reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 08:01 PM by swan001

Make a grid

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
a b c d e f g h i
j k l m n o p q r
s t u v w x y z

now, add your name letters up. example Mary: M=4, a=1, r=9, and y=7.
So, 4+1+9+7. That equals 21.

Note: The word ''fox'' gives ''6+6+6''... Intriguing.

according to tarot, 21 is the World.

If you have a number suprior to 22, just add up is components. Example: 42 = 4+2 = 6, the Lover.

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reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 08:25 PM by NorEaster

Originally posted by swan001

If you have a number suprior to 22, just add up is components. Example: 42 = 4+2 = 6, the Lover.

Actually, the 42/6 is the 2 of Cups if you're aligning it with the Tarot (which I think is appropriate, by the way) The reason I alerted on this is because 42/6 is my own Essence (name) Number. The parity continues to 78/6 (10 of Pentacles) before you start chopping them up in the way you suggested above.

What you're noting (taking the 42/6 number as an example) is the influence of the 4 and the 2 (with the 4 primary within that combination) on the 6 being expressed. In this case the stability (4) of close coupling (2) is the foundation of the human community (6), as opposed to (let's say) a 33/6, which is very much about communication and personal expression (double 3s) as the foundation of the human community brought together through inspirational leadership. Both concerning community and the joining of people in community, but arrived at differently.

reply posted on 16-4-2012 @ 11:32 PM by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS

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I think you may be interested in the following...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Psychology and Basis Behind (NWO?) PART 1

The following is a synopsis of the psychology and basis that is behind those that many would claim are to be responsible for the destruction/take-over of humanity... This is what they are, and the construct behind how we become

This ENTIRE THREAD was produced from a numerology and tarot reading using one defining word and date. The word is not of importance and nor is the date, but the truth and revelations that it seemingly provides is undeniable.

This is a part 1 of a 2 part thread. The second part has not been completed, and I am still waiting for the before mentioned friend to return. I told him I wouldn't touch it with out him being a part of its creation.

As you read it, you will undoubtedly catch on to the specific numbers, tarots, and celestial influences responsible.

reply posted on 17-4-2012 @ 07:22 AM by NorEaster

Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
reply to post by NorEaster

I think you may be interested in the following...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Psychology and Basis Behind (NWO?) PART 1

The following is a synopsis of the psychology and basis that is behind those that many would claim are to be responsible for the destruction/take-over of humanity... This is what they are, and the construct behind how we become

This ENTIRE THREAD was produced from a numerology and tarot reading using one defining word and date. The word is not of importance and nor is the date, but the truth and revelations that it seemingly provides is undeniable.

This is a part 1 of a 2 part thread. The second part has not been completed, and I am still waiting for the before mentioned friend to return. I told him I wouldn't touch it with out him being a part of its creation.

As you read it, you will undoubtedly catch on to the specific numbers, tarots, and celestial influences responsible.