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Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by Blaine91555
He has a point. The U.S does treat Britain quite disgracefully as an ally.
I agree, they are a fair-weather friend. Friends only when it suits them.
I'm also surprised that the OP never mentioned the fact that both Canada and the UK also had war plans for the US, so it certainly wasn't a one way street:
The Royal Navy never prepared a formal plan for war with America during the first half of the 20th century. The government of David Lloyd George in 1919 restricted the navy from doing so to prevent it from using American naval growth to justify building more ships. Like their American counterparts most Royal Navy officers viewed cooperation with the other nation as the best way to maintain world peace due to the shared culture, language, and goals, although Britons feared that British attempts to regulate trade during a war with another nation might force a war with the United States.
Defence Scheme No. 1 was created on April 12, 1921 and details a surprise invasion of the northern United States as soon as possible after evidence was received of an American invasion of Canada. It assumed that the Americans would first attempt to capture Montreal and Ottawa, then Hamilton, Toronto, the prairie provinces, and Vancouver and southwest British Columbia. Defence Scheme No. 1's American counterpart was War Plan Red, a plan to invade Canada as part of a war with Britain, created in 1930.
The purpose of invading America was to allow time for Canada to prepare its war effort and to receive aid from Britain. According to the plan, Canadian flying columns stationed in Pacific Command in western Canada would immediately be sent to seize Seattle, Spokane, and Portland. Troops stationed in Prairie Command would be sent to attack Fargo and Great Falls, then move to Minneapolis. Troops from Quebec would be sent to seize Albany in a surprise counterattack while Maritime troops would attack Maine. When resistance to the Canadians grew they would retreat to their own borders, destroying bridges and railways to hinder American pursuit.
The Royal Navy officers believed that the United Kingdom was so vulnerable to a blockade that, if a superior American fleet appeared near the British Isles, it would quickly surrender. The officers planned to, instead, attack the American fleet from a Western Hemisphere base, likely Bermuda, while other ships based in Canada and the West Indies would attack American shipping and protect Empire trade. The navy would also bombard coastal bases and make small amphibious assaults. India and Australia would help capture Manila to prevent American attacks on British trade in Asia and perhaps a conquest of Hong Kong. The officers hoped that such acts would result in a stalemate that would make continued war unpopular in the United States, then a negotiated peace
Originally posted by Rising Against
So it seems, if anything, it was a plan to counter a potential attack from America. Hardly the same as what America planned really..
My apologies, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't mention the UK and Canadian plans intentionally.
Originally posted by IPEEINTHESHOWER
reply to post by LeBombDiggity
HAHAHA, sounds like someone is mad that the UK used to rule the world and now sadly they are nothing more than a sinking Island. Maybe you're mad that the USA kicked your countries arse in Revolutionary war or is it we have military bases on your sinking Island right now and you don't have jack S&%# on our land. If the USA never got involved in WW2 Britain could not have defeated the combined Germany and Italy in Western Europe and Mediterranean/North Africa area. Germany and Italy would have defeated Britain.
Maybe you should be thanking us Yanks for saving your sinking Island instead of wishing it ill will.
This September will mark the 229th anniversary of the end of the American Revolutionary War. I guess some wounds never heal. This weekend, the Britain's National Army Museum voted George Washington the greatest military enemy ever to face Britain.
Historian Stephen Brumwelll said it best "the American Revolutionary War was the worst defeat for the British Empire ever,"
Every time you sip some earl grey you should be thankful that the USA will protect your sinking island.
edit on 16-4-2012 by IPEEINTHESHOWER because: (no reason given)
Pointing out every little thing that potentially makes America look like an evil monster in this world is getting lame.
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
The military has war games for just about every situation imaginable - probably even have plans for an Alien Invasion.
Just because they have plans and ideas, does not mean they will follow through with them.
Britain, and Canada are some of the U.S.'s closest friends - we need them, and they need us. You will never see a war between these countries unless someone comes into power who tries to wipe us out, invade us, or damage us.
There is no money in it, nor security in it.
edit on 16-4-2012 by MentorsRiddle because: (no reason given)