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"Hence a possibility of the Toutatis-Earth collision is not excluded but it is completely unpredictable. To investigate conditions of a hypothetical collision of a minor planet with the Earth we made the following numerical simulation. Based on the Toutatis' orbit, we deduced such orbital elements for a fictitious minor planet "Fatum" that a shape of the orbit was very similar to that of Toutatis, but we knew in advance that "Fatum" would certainly collide with the Earth in September 2004 and we calculated values of the impact parameters.
"We created a set of 638 artificial observations of "Fatum" in 1988-1997 for the same dates and with the same random observational errors like those of Toutatis. Then we corrected the "Fatum's" orbit for different observational intervals to examine the exactness of the impact prediction in 2004. We found that in 1993 we would be sure that the collision is inevitable, and in 1997 we could determine an impact area on the Earth�s surface in range of a square of 100*100 km. We show that if we knew the impact date so early we could undertake an action to avoid the collision by trying to change the "Fatum's" heliocentric velocity only by one cm/sec."
The 'Meier' book was apparently called, "Existing Life in the Universe". Meier does not sell it on his site.
There is a search engine, for example, at the huge Vancouver Public Library (online) that will search for any book in print or out of print...globally.
'Existing Life In The �niverse' does not come up in the search, which means that if Meier did publish it, he didn't get an ISBN for it (which means he self-published it).
Which also means you have to just take his word for it that he published it when he says he did and that he said what he did in it.
To CLAIM a book was published is one thing. To offer ROCK SOLID documentation is quite another. The Meier claim is tenuous 'evidence' at best.
Now, unless you have something substantial to enter as proof against Meier, I suggest you do a little research (tons of documents available for FREE at www.theyfly.com) and you'll see that not only was Meier ahead of the game re Toutatis but that there are literally dozens of such prophetically accurate items in copyrighted, published documents and books that constitute proof to a legal standard, years, even decades before the information was "officially" confirmed.
A minor rumor has hatched on the Internet that a large and deadly asteroid will strike Earth this fall. Bulletin board discussions cite a 63 percent chance of impact, while concerned readers have e-mailed SPACE.com wondering if it is true.
Astronomers know of no such impending doom.
The rumors are likely rooted in a real event, however. On Sept. 29, 2004 an asteroid the size of a small city will make the closest known pass of such a very large space rock anytime this century.
Originally posted by markjaxson
Also please dont lock this thread mods i know we shouldnt open threads if the guest speaker is on but this is so strange could someone ask Billy about this?