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Originally posted by Contag
I don't understand some of the hating that's going on in this thread. And people apparently being unimpressed with the image of a dead rapper on stage, chain swinging, pants moving and folding, accuracy in movement and gestures. I don't know why this would be compared to that animated Japanese girl (aside from tech aspect).
They've taken a once living person and resurrected his persona, onstage infront of thousands of people. How could you compare the work involved in recreating Tupac to a cartoon? Obviously a lot of effort was put into doing this. Making sure he moved and sounded as accurately as possible. "IT'S SO OBVIOUS IT'S FAKE" If it was so obvious, this wouldn't be so cool to so many people. Stop being anti-fun.
Where the hell do you guys see this type of stuff so often, in everyday life, that you have to talk it down instead of appreciating the medium? So they animated the Gorillaz and some anime, big whoop. They did a real person here with very realistic movement (yes I saw the feet. don't freak out on me).
Originally posted by SeventhSeal
reply to post by Contag
Best post of the year goes to you. Like I said, this is why we can't have nice things. Conspiracy theorists remain to be ungrateful for what they're blessed with.
"Oh this is cool....MUST BE GOVERNMENT TRYING TO KILL US!"
Originally posted by JeepEscape
I agree with you completely. I spent the weekend at Coachella, and this performance blew people away. So what if it's not "real hologram". The larger point here is that people LOVED seeing Tupac up there, even if it was just CG and 3D illusion. I'll tell you this right now, if I could go see Led Zeppelin, or Bob Marley, Hendrix, Mozart, Bach, etc in a full production like this, I would gladly shell out the ticket price.
I also noticed that some online publications and people were wondering how they were able to keep everything in sync with all the stuff happening on stage. It would be very, very easy to get the timing wrong if Tupac's performance was all pre-rendered. I don't think it was. A think the animations were triggered in real time. Video games have had this for years, so it only makes sense. That means you could set up whole shows that are "driven" by real people, and are not constrained by a fully pre-recorded animation.
As a futurist and a 20 year IT professional, I have learned to never say never about technology. I believe we will eventually have free standing holograms. Why? Because we want them. I've seen some interesting papers written on this subject, including some that use nanotech.
I generally enjoy this site, but so many people here are just cynical and depressed, and can't see the good in anything anymore. It's really quite sad.
Originally posted by Contag
Really interesting point you bring up about the timing, that didn't cross my mind. I think I have to agree with you completely, too. Everything had to be triggered at the correct time. This wasn't a school house puppet play. I guess everything would be pre-rendered, but still activated according to what's needed at what time. I get what you mean with the driven aspect. You could have projections interacting with the audience, responding accordingly to what's going on. Like touching the left hand of a doll to get a cry, and the right hand to get a laugh (as opposed to the left hand doing everything in a pre-determined sequence). Except this is expensive as hell.edit on 17-4-2012 by Contag because: (add something)edit on 17-4-2012 by Contag because: grammar
Originally posted by iLLest
Everyone keeps saying how fake it looks. They only worked on it for like 4 months....so no # its not gonna look PERFECT. Government has been planning this for who knows how many years. You think they will perform it knowing its not perfectly deceiving??? Come on...
Originally posted by Gdiddyaz
I was just relating this to Project Bluebeam in another post earlier tonight!! Here are the links I posted on the other thread...
First is an in the audience perspective of the hologram in 1080p... gives a good idea of what the viewers actually saw:
This is a link to the company that did the holographic projection. Not much info on their site... but click on the "Creative Solutions" link to see more videos and info about what they do.
Digital Domain Media Group Inc. is responsible for creating the "Tupac hologram," which isn't technically a hologram, because it's a two-dimensional image. Read more: www.usmagazine.com...