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Originally posted by MountainLaurel
Not one person that claims "chemtrails" are infact just "normal" contrails has commented on a very important documentary / study done by Rosalind Peterson that I posted .
The amount of barium will also vary based on the weather. Very heavy rains will leach more barium out into the groundwater. So you’d expect more barium after very rainy seasons. This is actually what you find if you look at the historical records in California (which has very uneven annual rainfall). You see spikes in barium whenever there is a wet year after a dry year. Recent years like these are 1991, 1995, 1998 and 2004 (2001 and 2003 also spiked to a lesser extent). The expected peaks were confirmed by the results of Rosalind Peterson at California Skywatch.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Contrails are made the same as all combustion by-products with a side effects of cancer.
why do you keep repeating this when you know it is wrong??
What makes your petroleum product so special that it is better then ours
Does not cause cancer, Prove it?
How did you get samples at that altitude?
www.dtic.mil...
What on earth are you going on about??
Contrails are condensed water - AFAIK (Internet slang) as far as I know ...water does not cause cancer, therefore contrails do not cause cancer.
What is your problem with that?
Several studies have identified acute health effects of jet fuel exposure and include skin irritation, nausea, balance problems, headaches, loss of concentration and lingering fuel taste and odor; biological markers, namely blood and urine, were also identified as valid indicators of jet fuel exposure [1-3, 5, 7-11]. There is some evidence that the long-term effects of jet fuel exposure include increased psychiatric symptoms, impaired sensory responses and postural imbalance [4, 12]. However, the overall paucity of work pertaining to the chronic effects of jet fuel exposure is somewhat surprising considering that aromatic hydrocarbons, compounds containing at least one benzene ring, can comprise 10-20% by volume of kerosene based fuels, and have been associated with carcinogenesis [13, 14]. Most notably, benzene has already been classified as a potent human carcinogen, while naphthalene is considered a possible human carcinogen because of the significantly increased nasal cancer incidence observed in rat models following inhalation exposure [7, 13, 15]. Interestingly, there has yet to be an adequate epidemiologic assessment of the carcinogenic potential of jet fuel in humans.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Contrails are condensed water - AFAIK (Internet slang) as far as I know ...water does not cause cancer, therefore contrails do not cause cancer.
What is your problem with that?
It is a by-product of aircraft flight which involves water and cancer causing chemicals.
And by using terms like (AFAIK Internet slang.... as far as I know ...)
Means best guess or what?
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Contrails are condensed water - AFAIK (Internet slang) as far as I know ...water does not cause cancer, therefore contrails do not cause cancer.
What is your problem with that?
It is a by-product of aircraft flight which involves water and cancer causing chemicals.
Of course contrails are a by product of aircraft flight which involves water and cancer causing chemicals - where did I say otherwise??
Sheesh
But contrails are just water.
And the exhaust gas pollution is there whether the contrails are there or not - so why the focus on contrails?
And by using terms like (AFAIK Internet slang.... as far as I know ...)
Means best guess or what?
It means exactly what it says - as far as I know water is not a cancer causing chemical.
I'm prepared to look at evidence that you must have that says otherwise for you to say that contrails cause cancer - by all means share it with us.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So you have proof of no unburned jet fuel in aircraft engines during flight called hydrocarbons and or soot,
I have a picture you showed me,
unless you would like to retract that picture in all chemtrail threats for the last 6 months?
It shows water and cancer causing chemicals.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So you have proof of no unburned jet fuel in aircraft engines during flight called hydrocarbons and or soot,
I have a picture you showed me,
unless you would like to retract that picture in all chemtrail threats for the last 6 months?
It shows water and cancer causing chemicals.
Huh?
What are you talking about now - pollution or contrails??
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
Aren';t you supposed to be an expert at something in 3 states - ah yes - here it is??
What is your area of expertise that you claim? How come you don't actually provide anything that actually resembles any expert testimony, or answer simple questions??
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So you have proof of no unburned jet fuel in aircraft engines during flight called hydrocarbons and or soot,
I have a picture you showed me,
unless you would like to retract that picture in all chemtrail threats for the last 6 months?
It shows water and cancer causing chemicals.
Huh?
What are you talking about now - pollution or contrails??
Of course there's probably unburned fuel and soot in the exhaust - but, as I have said already a couple of times - they are there whether there is a contrail or not.
And the contrail itself is only water.
You are just using a strawman now - apparently you think that because burning hydrocarbons generates pollutants as well as water, therefore contrails, being water, must cause cancer.
That's just rubbish, and completely ignores the fact that such pollutants are present whether contrails are formed or not.
I suspect you think you are being clever by trying to link pollution to contrails, whereas they are you can have pollution without contrails, and if you throw boiling water into the air at sub-zero temperatures you can make "contrails" without pollution.
your "argument" is just another chemmie sophism - a dishonest word game trying to "prove" that chemtrails exist, because you know there is no verifiable evidence.
As such it is more evidence of chemmie immorality
Aloysius, do you have some sort of translator or mystical cipher that decodes their posts?
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So you have proof of no unburned jet fuel in aircraft engines during flight called hydrocarbons and or soot,
I have a picture you showed me,
unless you would like to retract that picture in all chemtrail threats for the last 6 months?
It shows water and cancer causing chemicals.
Huh?
What are you talking about now - pollution or contrails??
Repeat
The Non Cancer Causing List of Transportation.
Should be easy if I am wrong.
(I wish I was getting paid to post on ATS, maybe I wouldn't have to worry about being F'KIN BROKE ALL THE DAMN TIME THEN)
We are being ridiculed by people that may be paid with our tax dollars.
So remind the kids that I put dinner on the table tonight. Because Daddy makes his living on proving contrails are harmless snow cones of Ice, or what some call man made cirrus clouds.
(I wish I was getting paid to post on ATS, maybe I wouldn't have to worry about being F'KIN BROKE ALL THE DAMN TIME THEN)
Hahaha! I love that movie.
Originally posted by ProudBird
"So long, and....THANKS! For all the fish!!"
Yeah....THAT ^ ^ ^ was brilliant....wasn't it?? COME on....!! It was BRILLIANT!!! (Did you hear the lyrics???? If not, play it again!! I'll. wait...............................)............
OK....back to the 'humor' aspect.....( I mean, this thread is about, basically NOTHING!!!!)....