Chemtrails and Depopulation – An Insider Speaks Out

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.




posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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I believe the web page linked in this thread represents
Free Speech On The Internet
And there is now groups of men out to control what is said
on internet.
Ok I said what I wanted,
now the ones that feel they are part of the group I mentioned,
can say what ever they want as long as they don't try to silence other men.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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And if you go search the link in this thread it does not use
Airplane, Aircraft or Airports in the link.
I found Airborn which many contrailers claim is natural.
Overreaction to a word,
Chemtrail?

www.hiddenmysteries.org...



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.


You take care also,
you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.
edit on 16-4-2012 by Gmoneycricket because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.


You take care also,
you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.
Most of the time when someone has a claim like that (Chemtrails existing), the claimants are the ones who have to bring the evidence to the table first.

edit on 4/16/2012 by ArrowsNV because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.


About as much as there is in car exhaust...

Do jet exhausts do this?



Not disagreeing that components of exhaust are dangerous or deadly, just wonder why you would be concerned with jet exhaust exclusively and not ground based sources?



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.


You take care also,
you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.
Most of the time when someone has a claim like that (Chemtrails existing), the claimants are the ones who have to bring the evidence to the table first.

edit on 4/16/2012 by ArrowsNV because: (no reason given)


I know and you are late to the argument T and C of this site states I cant cross post same info across diff. threads.
Go read chemtrail threads and meet the players,
then we can talk.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 




you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.


About as much as there is in car exhaust...

Do jet exhausts do this?



Not disagreeing that components of exhaust are dangerous or deadly, just wonder why you would be concerned with jet exhaust exclusively and not ground based sources?


Good picture
now all you have to prove is there is no airports or planes taking off in that city of smog.

Looks like of chemicals created by man from all forms of transportation,
I can agree with you on that Sir
Pollution is a fact not a conspiracy.
edit on 16-4-2012 by Gmoneycricket because: Sir



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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On a side note. There has been no chemtrailing where I am in the last three
weeks or so, with an accompanying huge decrease in air traffic. I have cause to be
optimistic about this developement, and am wondering if anyone else has noticed
a similar drastic reduction in air traffic/spraying in their area.

Airlines are changing their flight patterns in your area? Is it military or civil traffic? I get concerned when I hear this, why would airline traffic suddenly change or move? I am not saying what I think... on a side note.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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It's Mexico city, arguably the most polluted city in the world.

Planes landing and taking off will contribute to this but once they're cruising they don't, nor do the ones that fly over to and from other destinations.

The 3.5 million plus cars add to this.

The thousands of other various sources add to this.

Which is my point about how you can't really single out jets for creating the smog...



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 



Planes landing and taking off will contribute to this but once they're cruising they don't, nor do the ones that fly over to and from other destinations.



Can you show me a test of emissions gathered
during cruising altitudes that prove
zero combustion emissions in contrails or during flight?
Or are we to believe they turn into gliders and no fuel is used?



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.


You take care also,
you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.
Most of the time when someone has a claim like that (Chemtrails existing), the claimants are the ones who have to bring the evidence to the table first.

edit on 4/16/2012 by ArrowsNV because: (no reason given)


I know and you are late to the argument T and C of this site states I cant cross post same info across diff. threads.
Go read chemtrail threads and meet the players,
then we can talk.

You don't seem to understand ATS T&C Sec15d. You can't cross-post "from other discussion boards". If this is in the Chemtrail "board" then you should be fine. So please, I would love to see this 'proof'

You see 'threads' and 'boards' are two different things

Are you sure you've read the T&C? www.abovetopsecret.com...
edit on 4/16/2012 by ArrowsNV because: added emphasis



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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My starting point is always that the world has been completely hijacked by villains. Benefit of the doubt cannot afford to be granted anymore.


This is a good starting point, OP, and I also want to congratulate you on your blue skies. Would that they were mine. A lot of people are leery of the flu vaccines and I guess with good reason because this person seems to know what they're talking about. But even without a virus from above, there's plenty going up and coming down to concern ourselves with.

Gmoneycricket makes a really good point about anonymous - that's what we all are here. In this climate, I would strongly caution anyone against coming forward to blow whistles under their real names. That would have to be a really courageous person and also a person with a death wish.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


let me know when you have even one shred of verifiable evidence to prove your hypotheses on 'chemtrails'.

take care.


You take care also,
you prove there is no cancer causing chemicals in a contrail.
Most of the time when someone has a claim like that (Chemtrails existing), the claimants are the ones who have to bring the evidence to the table first.

edit on 4/16/2012 by ArrowsNV because: (no reason given)


I know and you are late to the argument T and C of this site states I cant cross post same info across diff. threads.
Go read chemtrail threads and meet the players,
then we can talk.

You don't seem to understand ATS T&C Sec15d. You can't cross-post "from other discussion boards". If this is in the Chemtrail "board" then you should be fine. So please, I would love to see this 'proof'

Are you sure you've read the T&C? www.abovetopsecret.com...


So you are confident that you have proof of
no cancer causing chemicals in contrails
that I call chemtrails.

Chemtrails is a chemical agent
released by commercial planes
that can cause harm to living creatures
which cancer causing chemicals falls into.
Or do you have a different set of rules of what
harmful chemicals might be.
I can not agree with you
until you prove there in zero chemicals in contrails.
I was taught a list of chemicals in fifth grade science
and contrails have chemicals that even a fifth grader would have
to address to pass his science test.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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So OP it is still a good question,
so if they are not using airplanes in this link to release airborne chemicals
how are they doing it?
And why, and where etc.
I saw military etc.
I live in a rural area,
I like the idea of wolfs chasing the city slickers away.
When living in the desert with the likes of rattlesnakes,
Sheriff Joe, Jan Brewer, Fast an Furious, illegals being shot as they cross the border, or my Politician being shot in the head, the story does not seem that outrageous!
While the Black-hawk Helicopters fly over my head.


So you haven't yet figured out the airborne conditioning-agent release program that is being operated by the government.



Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
And if you go search the link in this thread it does not use
Airplane, Aircraft or Airports in the link.
I found Airborn which many contrailers claim is natural.
Overreaction to a word,
Chemtrail?

www.hiddenmysteries.org...


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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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This is bit off-topic but at least at my eyes very important issue: contrails deprives me of my share of sunshine. Is there possibility that whole chemtrail debate is planted into media by air... industry to suppress this simple fact?



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 02:22 AM
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Is there possibility that whole chemtrail debate is planted into media by air... industry to suppress this simple fact?


No.

And, the occasional persistence of contrails that contribute to further high-level cirrus formation is NOT as "wide-spread" as you seem to believe. Perception is skewed.

No, the "chemtrail" silliness and 'meme' is rooted in something else......from the 1990s. A few people decided to use persistent contrails, especially the situation when such contrails are indicative of approaching and changing weather conditions that are usually and naturally associated with weather fronts....(has been for as long as Man has been observing the weather). They used this phenomena to "scare" people unfamiliar with the science of aviation, and of meteorology....in order to promote their "fear-based" agendas.....which included primarily, the selling of elixirs and "cures" for all sorts of imagined "ailments".

This "chemtrail" craze, begun in the 1990s originally, is just the latest version of the age-old "snake oil salesman" con-job.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
Oh boy! An anonymous insider who offers no proof!

I always like to believe those sorts of things blindly.


Just look up. Also, years ago now, they had that goo, that resides on your porch tested and published on the news hours, its mentioned in international documents, and so, its time to wake up.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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That isn't what I'm saying.

Can you prove that the emissions from cruise altitude jets reach the ground?

Have you ever seen a contrail come down to ground level?

Think about why not.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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I know mechanisms of contrail/persistent contrail pretty well. While I was in India during winter dry season with almost constant weather I saw contrails very rarely and I was able to "forecast" weather on base of formation of persistent contrails ... at least to the extent that there will be some change.
In middle of Europe there is less Sun and more frontal systems, more jets ... more persistent contrails. Some otherwise nice days are lost for farming. My point is: in place, where I live, even few % less sunshine and you are in trouble - specially with fungal pests.
By the way do exist any serious studies on correlation of persistent contrail formation and amount of Sun energy reaching surface? From my memory: some scientist in US was shocked by increase in Sun energy on surface stations across USA in days after 911 when almost all air travel was stopped. It was quite high number about 15%.



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