The Google Takeover, page 1


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reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:15 PM by cranspace
reply to post by ValentineWiggin




"Please first sign in with your Google account".


Goggle has become self aware
And hates Bill Gates
Goggle probably does not like apples either

Cran



reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:19 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin

I looked at getting a youtube account a few years ago here in Holland. Even back then a google (mail) account was a compulsory part of the registration process. So, no youtube account for me. I guess they are just making it consistent worldwide now.


reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:22 PM by ValentineWiggin
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin

I looked at getting a youtube account a few years ago here in Holland. Even back then a google (mail) account was a compulsory part of the registration process. So, no youtube account for me. I guess they are just making it consistent worldwide now.


I think the major downfall of this entire thing, Google, Facebook, etc and their new policies is that it silences the people who are smart enough not to buy into their crap. I mean just think about it, who are the most likely people to avoid these services because of these privacy issues? People who are awake and aware. It's a relatively genius way to stop important information from spreading to the masses via Social Networking.


reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:32 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin

Yup, to say these sites are offering basically free services it makes one wonder where all the money is really coming from. Facebook for example is supposedly "worth" at least a few billion, I vaguely remember reading that Bono of all people is a major shareholder and him celebrating his new found success by owning a chunk of it. I guess they do have subscriptions for more advanced features but I still don't see how they can truly generate that kind of money, or "worth".

It's also a part of their business model too I guess, offer something for free and make money somewhere else. The "where?" might be an answer we don't want to hear.

ETA I should also add that my ISP mail account let's me store something like 750MB of mail in it, something I will never get. Having a google account just to be able to sign in somewhere else seems a bit of a feeble excuse and I don't need another mailbox.
edit on 15/4/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: ETA



reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:34 PM by ValentineWiggin
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin


It's also a part of their business model too I guess, offer something for free and make money somewhere else. The "where?" might be an answer we don't want to hear.


That honestly sends chills down my spine. Something is amiss..



reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:40 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin

Well, I don't know about google but I read official docs detailing the price structures for LEO access to internet data. Due to all those nice new rules they can basically "capture" all your traffic and store it for later analysis. LEO pays more for access to that data than you do per month for the service. I think I saw an amount of 80-100 US Dollars for access to yahoo customer info. For that amount though, LEO got it all. All emails sent and received since the monitoring had been started, all Instant Messenger traffic, all websites visited and probably a couple of other things I forgot.

All ISP's are blackboxed these days. I don't even think they need the court order and possibly get the data for free now too. The doc's I read were from around 2001 I think. What's even worse is that we can't really do much about their traffic-sniffing ways or detect it. I am far from expert in Deep Packet Inspection techniques though.


reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:46 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by schuyler

Oh very well said. Now, have you ever tried telling someone you don't have (I try to avoid telling the "or want" part) a mobile phone? People look at you like you just arrived from another planet or are missing a life-support unit.


reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:57 PM by schuyler
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by schuyler

Oh very well said. Now, have you ever tried telling someone you don't have (I try to avoid telling the "or want" part) a mobile phone? People look at you like you just arrived from another planet or are missing a life-support unit.


Well, shucks. We have them, but the funny thing is, we don't keep them on. My wife's boss keeps telling her she can't get a call if she doesn't have her phone on. My wife just says, "The phone is for my convenience, not yours. If you want me to have a cell phone always on, then buy me one and pay for the account." Yeah, she's got a lot of cajones to say that, but she's 2nd in command of a 300 person joint and irreplaceable, so she can get away with it. It's free long distance and we use it for ourselves, like at Disneyland because I absolutely REFUSE to go into "It's a small world" with our granddaughter. Call me when you're done. I'm going to get myself some f'in ice cream!


reply posted on 15-4-2012 @ 07:59 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by ValentineWiggin

You could try VoIP (Voice over IP (Internet Protocol)) as an alternative to a land line from a regular telco. A landline costs 20 euros a month here, but VoIP just 5. I plug a telephone directly into my ADSL modem, configure a few details and can call or be called from anywhere in the world and the rates for international calls are usually a lot cheaper. There are many VoIP providers worldwide but as I use my ISP''s service I can't point you at a specific provider.
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