Do the people over seas who get billions in foreign aid do any work for it? Cut them off first.

Why do people who knowingly cannot afford children, then have children, and are rewarded with welfare? People should have some responsibility for their actions. There will always be lazy or "sloth" people in society, who will take advantage of the system, they should not be rewarded by stealing from my earnings.

There are exceptions to every rule and I am sure there are people who need welfare and do not abuse it, but the vast majority do, and has resulted in a sub-culture of government reliance, continued poverty, and crime. Eliminating welfare is not a logical solution but some reform is long overdue and much needed.

If he's willing to increase funding for daycare I really don't see the big deal here. Weren't all these programs originally purposed to get people through a temporary non-work period and back out into the economy? If you want to stay home til the kid is 2, it looks like he'll pay for it. If you want to stay home afterward, well, he's not going to pay for that. But he will pay for your kid's daycare while you're out at work. This really isn't that difficult.

in the traditional family, mom stayed home with the kids, dad worked, made enough money for support the family...
dad went to his job, did a little maintenance on the weekends like mowing the lawn and such, mom had dinner on the table, the house cleaned, kids off to school with their packed lunches... all was fine and dandy, as long as dad could make enough money to keep the family afloat and mom was able to do her part.

now days, more and more dads can't find work that pays the amount needed to support the families, and more and more moms are out in the workforce. so those nicely defined roles are being turned upside down and sideways, and well, leaving pretty much a chaotic mess! stress is added to the family relationship and well....sometimes that stress is enough to break up marriages.

and, well, sometimes, a women thinks she's marrying the man of her dreams, only to find out a little too late that he has a tendency to push her down stairs...
and well there will always be some in a society that have learned to exploit the problems and efforts of the society to correct those problems...yes, there are some who are exploiting the welfare system. they are also some bosses that are using it as a way to obtain workers while not having to worry about how those workers are gonna pay their bills (although most business still want those employees in their shops buying their products and taking advantage of their services!!!) and well, I am afraid, I would qualify this idea that welfare moms should be forced into the workforce as exploitation also! it you've read through the posts, I've already explained how!

okay, so the needs of the family are
maintainence of the home
child care
and obtaining enough funds to meet the financial needs...

as long as thire is a couple, ya, it can all be done....

but, with a single parent household it's all been dropped on the lap of just one parent. barring maybe child support, which many conservatives seem to like to blash, and welfare.
all those needs need to be met, or else the society will suffer!!
that includes taking care of the little ones.
you can let mom stay home, give her a little financial support, get on the dad of those kids and try to get him to help support those kids....
or well, you can spend more money, set up a ton of child care centers for those kids, headstart programs, ect. and send mom to work....
or, you can just send mom to work, not worry about the kids and we can all hear stories of kids dying in cars because mom couldn't find someone to watch them and so she brought them to work and hid them in her car, or left them at home and they burned themselves and the apartment complex down to the ground. or well, just put up with them running through your neighborhood unattended causing havoc....

the only real answer, and it's never gonna happen. seems we are heading into the opposite direction, is for mom and dad to get their heads screwed on straight and realize that if they can't make it together as a family under two roofs, well, splitting that family up and having two roofs to support is heading in the wrong direction!!!

as for the exploiters, the welfare cheats, the doctors who scam, the employers who just decide they can pay less because welfare will take care of most of their crew, the politicians who well, are failing miserably....
well, consider this, the more we all have to depend on that gov't for everything, the more our freedoms will be trampled!! yous are bringing down the entire nation, thank you!! you probably think you will escape the end result, but unless you are part of that top two percent, I doubt you will!! you will find yourself in about the same boat as you are wanting to put that single mom in now!!
enjoy!!

oh, and a new motto for the republican party:
It's okay to be lazy, as long as your rich!!

as far as parenting goes, it it's hard work for the rich, well, it's just as hard for the poor....it's the same job, although being rich does have it's advantage in that hiring a sitter is much easier when you have some funds to pay the sitter, and well, it's much more easier to entertain those kids if you have money for trips to disneyland and such...

so, it's the same work, basically the same amount of time and effort goes into the job, the only difference is the $$$!!!
so if the rich stay at home mom is working hard, then the poor stay at home mom is working hard, or if the poor stay at home mom is lazy, the so is the rich stay at home mom....
there is no way in hades you can justify going from one end of the spectrum to the other!!!

Originally posted by RealSpoke
So why didn't his wife go back to work? Oh wait, she had no work to go back to

She raised a family that included five boys all the while fighting CANCER and enduring MS.
I'd say she was working pretty damn hard.
She had the children because they could afford to.
People who can't afford children shouldn't have them.
It's not my responsibility to pay for other people's children.

It makes a lot of sense to put your child in daycare at $8.00 an hour, just so you can net $7.46 an hour before taxes. Romney is a Ken Doll, air-head with absolutely no clue.

Originally posted by Daughter2

There was another poster who said anyone receiving benefits "becomes their business"!

It's the elite's way for controlling the poor.

They create the situation where people have to depend on the government due to the lack of decent paying jobs. Then if someone asks for help to feed their kids, the elite expect them to give up all their rights.

Exactly! Problem, Reaction, Solution: wash and repeat till nothing is standing up.

The direct method of solving this is to incrementally raise tariffs on non-american and non-european produced services&goods, till american and european companies no longer have that great urge to leave their registered point-of-origin to exploit lax ultra-capitalist based laws. That means stay home to produce and give locals a decent paying job, which means more tax revenue for the state as well. More tax revenue combined with tighter all around spending means no more borrowing and we could finally start bringing the debt under control.

Not that I care about the debt a whole lot because the major creditors to america are the same ones that are trying to make america sink via wreckful spending and orgy-like globalisation But at least it would deprive them of the excuse to bring the first world nations to par with all the third world nations and that in of itself would be a big sucess. The idea should not be to bring down nations, but to bring up undeveloped nations with sustainable growth. Level the playing field to allow companies from asia and africa a descent chance to suceed everywhere.

They are going about everything back-ass-words! And I don't want to hear about trade wars because I have debunked this myth many times with little or no respectable counter-suppositions.

Mr. Richistan Romney is just like all rich from the land of Richistan America republicans and democrat bureaucrat politicians, he is full of crap, living in the rich world of Richistan has rob them from the realities of America unemployment and poor class

Obviously he went to Richistani school system where the subject of welfare or poor unemployed never is teach in the rich schools

He plans to take more from the hard working tax payer to put welfare mothers in a job that will pay minimum wages no enough to pay for childcare and put the burden of the expenses on the taxable working class.

He is just another moron politician too rich to know how math works when it comes to the nations economy, unemployment and how the poverty affect the regular American citizen.

This is what happen when politics are run by a corporate dictatorship and not by the people and for the common citizens.

What a moron. here in my neck of the woods we are now the ctiy with the highest unemployment rate in the state of GA.

perhaps he like Mr. Richistan Obama will try to figure out how to keep promises that were never mean to be delivered and sell them to those that knows the realities of life in backward America towns

I am still waiting for Obamas we can

Originally posted by Silenceme
It makes a lot of sense to put your child in daycare at $8.00 an hour, just so you can net $7.46 an hour before taxes. Romney is a Ken Doll, air-head with absolutely no clue.

It appears the ship sailed without you on this concept. The daycare would be subsidized so you won't be paying the $8.00 an hour. You will get the daycare for free so you can go to work and stop being a bum. The you is not directed at you personally.

Without the proper education, you need the $7.46 an hour job to get to the $10.50 an hour job, to get to the $14.00 an hour job...

I won't presume to know your age, but those in the 30 and under age group don't understand the concept of working your way up the ladder. It's all about instant gratification and the horrible lessons they learned form their "everyone's a winner" 1990's - today mindset. The real world is a tough S.O.B. and the age 30 and under group is not mentally prepared for the harsh reality that life aint one big video game. Sometimes you have to work hard for low pay.

Originally posted by usernameconspiracy

Originally posted by Silenceme
It makes a lot of sense to put your child in daycare at $8.00 an hour, just so you can net $7.46 an hour before taxes. Romney is a Ken Doll, air-head with absolutely no clue.

It appears the ship sailed without you on this concept. The daycare would be subsidized so you won't be paying the $8.00 an hour. You will get the daycare for free so you can go to work and stop being a bum. The you is not directed at you personally.

Without the proper education, you need the $7.46 an hour job to get to the $10.50 an hour job, to get to the $14.00 an hour job...

I won't presume to know your age, but those in the 30 and under age group don't understand the concept of working your way up the ladder. It's all about instant gratification and the horrible lessons they learned form their "everyone's a winner" 1990's - today mindset. The real world is a tough S.O.B. and the age 30 and under group is not mentally prepared for the harsh reality that life aint one big video game. Sometimes you have to work hard for low pay.

I've been in the same industry for over ten years, the same job for close to 7......
ain't making no $10.50, never have....
how about telling the truth here!!
and it still doesn't make any sense!!
I mean, you do realize that in some states, heck they will give you a car so you can get to work!!
ya, you have to pay for it, eventually, when you can...but still
and then they will give you a clothing allowance, after all need to look nice for the job, right??
and of course you need to eat a lunch at work (hey, I never have money for lunches...I settle for a cheap bag of chips for 50 cents!!!

so, well, they are paying for all this, plus the childcare...and well, at the most, your benefits are gonna be offset by the amount of money you make!!!
we are paying them more to work than to stay home and raise their kids!!
but, hey, they are providing a source for cheap labor, aren't they?? those stay at home moms who just want to pull their family out of the hole since dad got laid off, well, they ain't gonna be able to beat that price are they?? I mean, they will have to pay for their own childcare, since dad's unemployment plus the pay she will get from the new job, well, that will throw them over the income guideline, no help for her!! and well, since she will not be able to make enough to pay the sitter, not with all those, oh I don't really care how much I make, since well, everything is taken care of anyways....I just need a job!! just give me a job!! well, it will decrease the earning potential of all the unskilled labor, thank you....
heck, I will probably get laid off just so my boss can hire someone off the welfare roll, pay them less, and get a neat little tax credit to boot!!!

it's a joke!!! on anyone who wishes to believe the polywogs! it will not cut the budget one bit, but will rather increase it.