CNN: Coordinated Afghanistan assaults target presidential palace, embassies -- "Taliban"

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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CNN: Coordinated Afghanistan assaults target presidential palace, embassies


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Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Attackers in Afghanistan launched a coordinated wave of assaults Sunday, targeting a heavily protected district of the capital that includes embassies and the presidential palace, as well as trying to strike an airbase used by American troops, officials said.
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Looks like they're getting more and more tired of us being over there.. The U.S. Embassy is on lock down from this. What are your guys' thoughts on this?

I was watching CNN (I know, theyre propaganda tools lol) and I saw this on a breaking news bit they were running. I sure hope everyone is okay over there, but we still should get out ASAP.

www.cnn.com
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Team America World Police. I find the similarity of the US "helping" while doing more harm than good hilarious.

After a decade, I think the mission against terrorism (which isn't going away anytime soon) is a bust. We will be funding and fighting a war against an enemy you can't defeat till the end of time? Sounds like a plan!
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Maybe they'll finally set the poppy fields ablaze and end the nonsense...

I doubt it though



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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I truely believe that America is one of the roots of all evils around the globe.. most just don't see it. Or, at the very least the people behind the scenes that are running the show. I almost feel like America was hi-jacked early on in it's history by the elite, knowing what they could accomplish with the country later on. It was a project almost.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by cconn487
Team America World Police. I find the similarity of the US "helping" while doing more harm than good hilarious.


Ha!

They dont even try anymore. They think we are all stupid. Like the recent 'Friends of Syria'.


Whats funny is they think they are so clever. Think they can insult our intelligence. Not only are we more intelligent than they are,we outnumber them. There are millions of us.

-They are a Tet Offensive away from leaving Afghanistan from the roof of their embassy with their tails between their legs running home like cowards too.Like Vietnam.
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Roundtree
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I truely believe that America is one of the roots of all evils around the globe.. most just don't see it. Or, at the very least the people behind the scenes that are running the show. I almost feel like America was hi-jacked early on in it's history by the elite, knowing what they could accomplish with the country later on. It was a project almost.


Agreed. I think they started their "endgame" with the great depression. Its disheartening to look around at the problems today and thinking what it will be like in a few short years. Not having the faintest clue how to do something about it is what gets me down.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Roundtree
reply to post by cconn487
 


I truely believe that America is one of the roots of all evils around the globe.. most just don't see it. Or, at the very least the people behind the scenes that are running the show. I almost feel like America was hi-jacked early on in it's history by the elite, knowing what they could accomplish with the country later on. It was a project almost.


Alternatively, our corporations (which are global institutions) is actually the root of all evil.

Corporate media freaks you out
You nominate a politician to accomplish something in order to address the panic you have
war happens to bomb the country that freaks you out
You blame America for sucking.

Actually, you (not you personally, but the will of the voters) did it...you can't blame a puppet you sent forward to do exactly that for all your troubles and woes.

So, you take a moment, and reflect...why did you send a politician up to declare war? Right..because the media freaked you out..with tales of powder in mail, duct tape and plastic liner for your windows, endless panic stories.

But they can't be blamed either..because the more they show stuff to freak you out, the more you tune in, and the more their ratings / revenue goes up...

What is the solution?
Hell if I know...but I am pretty sure shaking a fist at the person we pushed forward to do exactly what they are doing isn't it...it just makes us deny our responsibility...the blood is not on their hands, or even on the msm's hands..its on ours.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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what I find amazing is that people are surprised that (in a war) the enemy is attacking.

We should either fight to win, or leave.

This wishy-washy indicision bull spit foreign policy is useless.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
what I find amazing is that people are surprised that (in a war) the enemy is attacking.


Well, from all the feel good stories in the media, and the lies from the Army about how much of that hellhole is under control, American citizens thought we were doing OK. No one thought they had the capacity to mount an attack like this. They shouldnt be able to, right, didnt we pummel them into the ground?

Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer
what I find amazing is that people are surprised that (in a war) the enemy is attacking.


Well, from all the feel good stories in the media, and the lies from the Army about how much of that hellhole is under control, American citizens thought we were doing OK. No one thought they had the capacity to mount an attack like this. They shouldnt be able to, right, didnt we pummel them into the ground?

Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol
edit on 15-4-2012 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)


I think this says it all

ISAF spokesman Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings described himself as "underwhelmed" by the attacks.

U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker expressed similar sentiments, telling CNN: "The Taliban are very good at issuing statements, less good at fighting."


Yes, they did well..a few groups of people sprang up and caught some bullets and handcuffs..and this is somehow a 'omg, we are losing the war" angle?

Not that I am pro-war...quite the opposite, but come on...lets not start cheering everytime some Afhganistan redneck shoots (poorly) at a military base and suggest that somehow they are on even grounds.

And its suspected that this "Master" plan of attack isn't even from the taliban, but rather outsider networks trying to fight a proxy war (and failing).



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by cconn487
Team America World Police. I find the similarity of the US "helping" while doing more harm than good hilarious.

After a decade, I think the mission against terrorism (which isn't going away anytime soon) is a bust. We will be funding and fighting a war against an enemy you can't defeat till the end of time? Sounds like a plan!
edit on 15-4-2012 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)


Gaddafi, Bin Laden and Kim Jong Il have all died within the last year. Maybe Team America does exist. However, I think America's policy of shooting first and asking questions later has always been our downfall. I mean, just think how useful King Kong could have been on September the 11th.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles


Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol
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Please define 'winning'

Politically, the government turned their backs on South Vietnam and cut the funding for equipment and air power we had promised them.

It was a political game that was cut short by the democrats mostly due to the huge anti war movement at home. We had the money, the equipment, and the manpower to keep going and going.

In terms of battles won, and enemies killed, we slaughtered the NVA.
It wasn't until after we left that the NVA killed thousands in a takeover of South Vietnam, including thousands in education camps.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer
what I find amazing is that people are surprised that (in a war) the enemy is attacking.


Well, from all the feel good stories in the media, and the lies from the Army about how much of that hellhole is under control, American citizens thought we were doing OK. No one thought they had the capacity to mount an attack like this. They shouldnt be able to, right, didnt we pummel them into the ground?

Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol
edit on 15-4-2012 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)


I think this says it all

ISAF spokesman Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings described himself as "underwhelmed" by the attacks.

U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker expressed similar sentiments, telling CNN: "The Taliban are very good at issuing statements, less good at fighting."


Yes, they did well..a few groups of people sprang up and caught some bullets and handcuffs..and this is somehow a 'omg, we are losing the war" angle?

Not that I am pro-war...quite the opposite, but come on...lets not start cheering everytime some Afhganistan redneck shoots (poorly) at a military base and suggest that somehow they are on even grounds.

And its suspected that this "Master" plan of attack isn't even from the taliban, but rather outsider networks trying to fight a proxy war (and failing).



Who is "cheering"??

.....also what would you expect the military spokesman to say "OMG WE ARE UNDER HEAVY FIRE SEND REINFORCEMENTS NOW OMG OMGOMG!!!"

Im not saying that our positions are being overrun....Im saying we have been there 10 years, and the population is obviously not "subdued" nor do we control anything. We are not "winning" by any stretch of the imagination....unless you consider signing contracts with a goverment we installed to rape their resources winning. Which most Americans do, I guess. And Im familiar with you Saturn, I know you are no warmonger.

If Afghanistan was under control, there wouldnt be small groups of "afghan rednecks" able to get close to our base.
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer
what I find amazing is that people are surprised that (in a war) the enemy is attacking.


Well, from all the feel good stories in the media, and the lies from the Army about how much of that hellhole is under control, American citizens thought we were doing OK. No one thought they had the capacity to mount an attack like this. They shouldnt be able to, right, didnt we pummel them into the ground?

Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol
edit on 15-4-2012 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)

Don't know if you were aware of it or not, but the US Army has a civilian commander-in-chief. As a matter of fact, we have a civilian administrator (Leon Panetta) who is Sec. of Defense.

You're issues are with them.

(That's who gives us our orders and makes the press releases)



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by paradox

Please define 'winning'

Politically, the government turned their backs on South Vietnam and cut the funding for equipment and air power we had promised them.


Its not about winning....its about drawing it out as long as possible to spend more and more on arms. I thought we all knew this.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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If the story is accurate it means the local police and army forces are finally getting their feces organized.

3 years ago we couldn't have scrounged up 50 competent Afghani's if we looked in Europe, it was a joke. Trying to train these people was like trying to teach string theory to a basset hound. As soon as the shooting started they ran like the wind.

What this tells me is that they have found a training model that works, so let's get the troops out of there.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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I know some were going to compare this to the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War. It seems like this coordinated assault was repulsed and they were sent away with their tails between their legs? Furthermore, it looks like the Afghans security forces have gotten their act together. The NATO command mentioned that Afghan forces repelled this assault by themselves.

The US Embassy was not overrun and locking down an embassy during a disturbance is standard operating procedure. Lets not puff up the Taliban's ego anymore than it already is. Time to head back to mountains boys, because your audacious assault looks like it will be an abysmal failure. Just my two cents.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by paradox

Please define 'winning'

Politically, the government turned their backs on South Vietnam and cut the funding for equipment and air power we had promised them.


Its not about winning....its about drawing it out as long as possible to spend more and more on arms. I thought we all knew this.


Nice change of goal posts after I addressed this quote:



Its like right before Tet, the governemnt told us we were winning lol





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