reply to post by Ericthenewbie
Time is more a temporary condition. A non linear, timeless, soul expression decides to place itself, or rather an aspect of itself, in a "game"
where limitations and arbitrary rules are established. Think video game and avatar. The soul expression's avatar - you/your personality, is then
subject to the rules of the game. In this case we are in the earth plane game, whereby this thing called "time" regulates events that take place in
the game. No problem with it, it is just a game. Our brains are the primary "controller" that is used to negotiate the game. The limitations of the
brain make playing the game tolerable and interesting. Really thing video game here: Program, avatar (certain limitations chosen) rules, objective,
game controller, with no way to escape outside the game. If you want, you can play another game but the rules of the old game do not apply to the new.
Outside the game there are no rules per se, only other games to play, some of which may have a kind of time, or others (far more common) just end when
they end. Read some of the books or threads on people consciously negotiating a non-body, non-linear experience (OOB) and notice they all lack a time
limitation (Monroe's books are good, Bruce's as well). In a non-body, non-brain, experience another set of rules apply, time isn't one of them as
it is totally connected to the body/brain/earth avatar and is NOT a universal anything.
The problem here for "science" is that when the church (its own evil I know) was separated off from "science" the - conscience or con-science, was
also separated off as a viable tool for understanding the self. This means that science will only accept what can be shown to them via an outside,
repeatable scenario. The flaw here is there is NOTHING outside, it is all inside. The creator self is all there is and there is nothing beyond it
(though it keeps expanding - imploding? itself to new levels with each thought). So, to know something other then "time" is to see INSIDE not to be
shown timelessness "outside."
To add more fuel to the fire here, the things that "science" keeps discovering are not universal things, but rules of the game. In some cases, they
are discovering the "game code." But the game codes are a temporary limitation set up to have a unique experience, the codes are not universal at
all - in some corners of consciousness the idea of math is funny and quaint, and totally wrong. Much of what we need to "prove" are things that
cannot be proven at all, they are things you come to KNOW. You cannot be "shown" timelessness, you come to know it via your own personal experience.
You are not shown "all the universes" but you come to KNOW what a universe is relative to your own personal evolutionary path - it is personal,
unique, and remarkable. The travesty of approved science and the horrifying scientific method, is that the process all but ended the personal internal
path to understand self and replaced it with some silly method as a way of defining the grandness of self.