Originally posted by TZela
The next thing you know there will be a rider on the insurance policy for "paranormal damages"

Well I did see the movie "Christine" LMAO!

I find it interesting how impossible it is for some to believe in hauntings, or spirits. I grew up believing and not thinking there was a choice, it was just as real as I see you, there you are, you are real. I was too young to take it at as any other way. I think that is a big difference there- you were taught to not believe, and to laugh at other's for the belief.
I had a friend when I was very young. It was not imaginary. In my baby book(birth to 6 years old book) my mother even wrote, "_____ has an imaginary pet dog that goes everywhere with her, and it's name is Spot".
Nope, Spot was real, and wasn't a dog.

Originally posted by Monger

I've lived in some pretty shady houses and apartments during my life. Several places where the previous tenant had committed suicide, a creepy old farmhouse that had been unlived in for more than a decade. Not once did I experience anything I would call paranormal, though I can't completely discount another person's experience. But I would suggest a fair amount of critical thinking.

It's easy for people to get freaked out and feel uneasy in an unfimiliar environment, such as a new apartment. Taps in the walls can be attributed to wind, rodents in the walls, a number of other things.

I'm not saying that I believe its impossile that they were frightened from their home by something paranormal, but I retain a healthy amount of skepticism.

When I was 10-11, we moved into an upstairs apartment, it was beautiful, all furnished with antiques just like new, tall carved wood beds and all glass doorknobs, beautiful rugs... it was 3 bedrooms and had a glass walled dinning room with glass and polished wood doors and a wonderful shinny wood table and fancy tall back upholstered chairs. My Mother was stunned because they rented this to a woman alone with 6 kids and a baby on the way at such a low price lower then anyplace we had lived.

The master bedroom had a mans cane and bowler hat in the closet a box of red liquid in small flat bottles with labels that's said DR (something) cure, and listed all kinds of illness it cured, clearly 1800's stuff like the house.

Anyway my mother found the back door unlocked every morning and sometimes the front one too. She stuck table knives in the sills to keep them from opening, but one night I woke and saw a man standing in the bedroom door, it was light from outside signs, light as day. He was just watching us, me and 4 sisters in two beds, he was short, he had a tweed like jacket and matching pants, a cane and a bowler like hat, he did not make me scared, he then after a bit just disappeared. I called for my Mother and she came and I told her and she was not surprised at all clearly having seen him before already...she just said, he won't hurt you, go back to sleep.

Call them ghosts or just odd phenomena - but my Dad has had his fair share of odd events in a number of houses. I personally think he's either 'tuned in' or just unlucky, but he's had numerous incidents in various places.

One particular house of his was a country cottage a few miles from anywhere besides five other small cottages and a couple of old roads. Anyway lots of things happened in that house - a pyrex dish shattered for no good reason on the kitchen surface, his model railway tracks and trains would be found disturbed despite nobody being in the house, his TV would sometimes be on after returning home (despite him needing to save electricity and making sure everything was switched off), but the oddest things were the knocking sounds.

Day or night my dad and other various members of the family (but never myself) heard tapping, knocking sounds on the front door, both like a fist tapping and also the letter box being tapped. Even when he immediately opened the door there was never anyone there. It was not the wind either.

I remember the house always being cold, although to be fair it had no central heating or major radiators, but it always seemed unnecesarily gloomy and dull and cold. Like it could never get warm. I'm very glad he moved away from that place.

As I mentioned these things seemed to have followed him around, like something mischevious. In his latest house, switches have been found turned off (in inaccessible places like behind a kitchen unit), items have vanished and reappeared in odd places (keys, money, and other small objects) and even when he re-married and went on his honey moon in France - he managed to pick a haunted guest house. Strange tapping, clicking sounds through out the night, like wine glasses being 'flicked' and a creepy, dark feeling from one side of the room. Naturally my Dad and stepmum ignored it and didn't tell each other, until their 3rd night, when they both confessed that they both felt very uneasy and my stepmum complained of having bad dreams of a man standing over them in the corner of the room.

Very strange, thanks to my Dad I discovered my passion for discussing the unknown.

Umm...this was on the news last night and they said the family had been living in the house for almost 10 years and they hadn't made a payment in 11 months....

Going to go try to find a source, cannot remember what news we were watching, but I will post if I find it.


Edit: I see it says they have rented the property for 10 years, but not to the same family. The news I watched didn't make that clear. After searching, I have come up with nothing about 11 months of non payment, the family didn't even live in the house that long from what I can tell. I'd also like to note the news I watched said the sound they had recorded said" I hate you" not " let it burn" as every other article says. I remember clearly because my husband and I laughed at how the reporter said it. Starting to think it was just crappy news reporting and I wish I could remember what news channel it was!!!!

I'm not a real estate expert but according to a quick internet search here in NJ (yep I live in NJ about five minutes from Toms River LOL) homeowners and landlords are not required to disclose any type of death or suicide to anyone interested in buying or renting a home. I doubt if the judge is going to investigate anything to be honest beyond the fact that they are breaking the lease. Even if they were let out of the lease I would think that if I was truly terrified that the home was haunted losing my security deposit would be a small price to pay to be free of such a fearful situation. I myself don't have any belief in ghosts or hauntings. Let me be honest here everyday we are walking on someones grave from the past no matter where we go. I have no idea how many primative men or indians graves I have lived on in my years of moving. Many times during the civil war people were buried without markers all the time. But thats my opinion which is quite possibly wrong

I notice that many here are being supersillious about "hauntings", like as if such a thing does not have any scientific foundation ? Or as if those affected are suffering from some kind of disease of the brain ? Anyone who has suffered a ghost in their house knows that the paranormal is real. Most learn to live with it, like as I have, but in the event that a landlord or agency knew the house to be haunted, but knowingly with held that information from the tenant or buyer, then I see legitimate grounds for litigation.

It is a common misunderstanding about the paranormal that people believe that spirits do not exist, or that science has no idea about these phenomenon. Actually cutting edge science knows about such phenomenon. Science is about coming up with a paradigm that is able to explain all the data. Ignoring data that does not fit in with the prevailing paradigm is simply not real science. We have to accept all the data, no matter how weird the data might be. So that particle physics cannot explain such phenomenon. So we must arrive at a new paradigm that can explain such "hauntings". We do have a paradigm that adequately explains such hauntings. It is called "Multidimensionality Physics". Albert Einstein called it the "Folding of the Fabric of Time and Space". Also it is now widely known as "Quantum Entanglement". Or also one can call it "Wormhole Physics" or "String Theory".

We all carry this "Quantum Entanglement" around with in us. We call it our "Subliminal Consciousness". However, one is mistaken if one is thinking that the realm of the sub-conscious is just chemicals reacting in the brain. Ghosts exist as a measurable field phenomenon. One can buy "Ghost Detectors". These device are various forms of radio receiver. You see, each radio frequency is a window or portal through which we can see into the etheric realms, where the ghosts are living, relative to our dimension. As much as they are ghosts to us, we also are equally as much ghosts to them. We are haunting them just as much as they are haunting us.

Anyone can tune in on the paranormal just by sitting still and listening to the environment. Look very concentratedly into a mirror. Doing these mind exercises will always improve your psychic awareness. Most hauntings are as a consequence of mirrors in the house. If your house is haunted, the first thing to do in order to remove the haunting, is to remove all the mirrors in the house. If that fails to bring improvement then by all means bring in a ghost buster team. However, they are not a free service. Sometimes inviting a priest in to perform an exorcism can actually make the haunting even stronger and turn what was a mere inconvenience into a literal nighmare from hell.

Some people are so into the occult that they are eager to buy or rent houses that are certified as being haunted. It is a specialist market. So the landlord or agency should always let everyone know about any haunting. It can be a profitable aspect of the property. My house was haunted. It still is, but I have it under my control now. Initially I was so affected that I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for six months. After all these years it has become something that I have learnt to live with. Even as I am sitting here writing this I can hear the usual sounds that are absolutely paranormal. Most of the time I basically ignor it all.

In my house there is a particular corner where the disturbance is strongest. If I speak into that corner I can easilly converse with the entities. It is a "StarGate" as they say. Like as in the classic movie "Poltergeist". These doorways are in every house to greater or lesser extent. The doorways are our interaction with parallel universes. Literally the "wormholes" that scientists are talking about in their theories. Every mirror is such a "wormhole", but no one looks into a mirror long enough so as to be able to see it as such. Just recently, after more than fifteen years, I have installed a new mirror in my livingroom. Suddenly the psychic manifestations are returning again. Gaining in strength. Some old mirrors are really spooky. Such haunted mirrors can fetch a really good price, since occultists are on the look out for such things for their research. I am working with a brand new mirror and already I am getting results. Think how much more psychically powerful certain old mirrors can be ?

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