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reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 07:26 AM by ollncasino
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Apparently, 593,000 people came into the country in the year to June 2011 and the 343,000 left the country to live abroad for more than 12 months.

The Guardian

In other words, large numbers of skilled British people are leaving every year while even larger numbers of, largely unskilled, immigrants arrive.

How is that sustainable?



reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 07:27 AM by InfaRedMan
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You have to wonder how many of them are Islamic foot soldiers. There are too many people living in Brittan with the singular intention of undermining it already. You don't need to risk allowing more of them into the country.

IRM


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 08:41 AM by purplemer
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What the UK doesn't need is more illegal immigrants from Pakistan, India, China, Bangladesh, Egypt, Sri Lanka and Nigeria who can't even speak English.


The UK has a tp heavy aging population. If it was not for immigrants coming in the country would die.. The UK needs low waged workers to do the jobs that no one else will do..


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 08:49 AM by stumason
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Can't do much about EU migration without leaving the EU....

Besides, many EU citizens can speak English..


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Hardly. The population growth amongst "indigineous" parents is enough to sustain a healthy population growth after, briefly, suffering a bit of a stutter.

An ageing population can be easily taken care of with better planning from those still working. Far to many go through their working life and don't consider a pension until their 40's when it's too late to accrue a decent one and then rely on the meagre state pension.. I have had one gathering funds since I was 21!

And this whole addage about them doing "jobs that no one else will do" is bollocks, but rather a line sold to make us feel good about letting them in. There are plenty out there who will do those jobs but cannot because employers simply won't take them on, knowing they can can get a better rate of return out of an illegal who won't complain about doing 60 hours a week for £40.


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 09:12 AM by stumason
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Been there mate....

Some years back I was in the council offices trying to negotiate some sort of let up on the huge tax bill they levied me. As I was a young, single, white male, nope, nothing. I paid it though, I always do.

Next to me at the other desk was a Bangladeshi woman with several kids. No English, got an interpretor and despite obviously being "fresh off the boat", they couldn't have worked harder for he so she had somewhere to live and money in her pocket...

What right do they have to come here, fleece our systems meant for our own citizens and then undermine employment laws meant to protect our citizens from being exploited by working for a pittance? I would not expect any other country to house me, feed me or look after my kids if I moved somewhere... I would expect to earn my keep, pay my way and after a time, become a citizen to enjoy those benefits...


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 09:32 AM by Sinny
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We should encourage English girls to have kids younger?!?!

Although that may be the way to ensure we aren't the minority by 2066 (as predicted) that really isn't the way forward

I'm nearly 21 and I can honestly say 75% of the girls in my school year have children and a 1 bed flat, some had them in school, others just after, others right now, the only people who haven't are the ones in university, honestly I only have 2 friends left that don't have the full package.

Every now then, I really consider getting up the duff just to get somewhere to live and live on benefits because they are all better off than me.

I wouldn't do that, because one: I'm ten years off being ready to raise a child, 2: ill get stuck in the habbit of remaining that way. 3: I want to work, live, study and travel, and 4: a kid shouldn't raise a kid!!

But seriously I've done nuffin but work since I left school, and I still can't afford to drive, rent a place, holiday, or generally life life the way I intended.

I won't give up though, hopefully I can break through one day, the problem is there's many things to be fixed within our system and the international system as a whole, it could be decades untill progress is made, I mean in an ideal world I would love to say everyone could live where they want, everyone is free, but its not like I could just up and leave to live in the lovely sun in the middle east or Asia.


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 09:41 AM by ollncasino
Originally posted by Sinny
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We should encourage English girls to have kids younger?!?!

Although that may be the way to ensure we aren't the minority by 2066 (as predicted) that really isn't the way forward


In the past, people got married young, had children young and the mother stayed at home and looked after the kids.

I am in no way advocating young girls becoming single mums.

Maybe some more encouragement of tradtional families wouldn't go amiss in the UK?


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 09:46 AM by stumason
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When you do encourage "traditional" families, you're accused of being sexist, misogynist or old fashioned.

My missus is a good example of such thinking. On the one hand, there are jobs which are "man" jobs, such as building furniture, changing bulbs, general maintainence etc, which is fine as she sucks at doing them anyway, but should I dare suggest that there are "women" jobs, oh man, run for the hills....


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 11:00 AM by stumason
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I am 100% all for total equality. I was just pointing out that some rather like the benefits of equality, but at the same time still like to have a "sexist" attitude such as I illustrated, usually if they don't fancy doing something...

In fact, I am so for equality I even advocate mixed sex professional football. I see no reason why women cannot play with men, if they have the skill, as it's not really a contact sport where men have a physical advantage. Even then, I've seen a game or two of Rugby with Men vs Women teams and the women teams can handle themselves well enough!!

Anyhoo, straying a tad off topic here


reply posted on 14-4-2012 @ 11:37 AM by Sinny
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Ohh I love the idea of mixed sex football, I watched the womens world cup, and boy oh boy, some of them could run rings round likes of Messi all day long, especially the Brazilian team
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