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British coin shows that the british public serves germany

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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 07:21 AM
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I know this post is trying to go in the direction of ooooh no we're all subservient to the Germans, because King George was a German, of the Hanoverian line, and look it says German words on the prince of wales' emblem. But now, I am sorry, I just don't believe it.

There is too much evidence of this symbol in use from the before the ascension of the Hanoverians.




posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Sk8ergrl
reply to post by SarnholeOntarable
 


The royal family are the head of the elites so I don't see them going away anytime soon unless the people revolt



So you came here with your opinion (which is what it is) and asked a question. You were given a thorough historical explanation of the creation of the symbolism involved, and you then ignore that completely and continue with your NWO/Elites/Germany beliefs?

So if you're so certain about all of this and are choosing to completely ignore the facts, why bother asking the question to begin with?

It's like asking what the meaning of life is, then being told in reasonable detail what the answer is, then demanding over and over again that it is in fact... spinach!
No doubt about it, definitely spinach. No amount of discussion, debate, evidence or historical detail can dissuade you from the fat that it's spinach.

Is there any evidence that the meaning of life comes down to nothing more than spinach? No, it's just something you know for absolute certainty no matter what anyone says.

This place really is remarkable.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Don't be silly it can't be spinach every one knows the meaning of life is 72!!



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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reply to post by JakiusFogg
 


Isn't it 42?

en.wikipedia.org...(number)



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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reply to post by Sk8ergrl
 


Maybe because the Royal Family are German... You are barking up the wrong tree if you want to blame the Royal Family for the woes of the UK..

Want to know who really runs the UK..? Check out the square mile. The richest place in the world. Bang in the middle of London. Not owned by the UK but owned by the Corporation of London. They pay no tax to the UK and have their own police force and laws..
edit on 14-4-2012 by purplemer because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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The Royal Family is no more German than I am Irish.. Get's right up my nose when people say this bollocks..

And for the chap that said he "heard George V could barely speak English".

Well, you "heard" (made up...) wrong. George V was born and bred British, could speak only English and had an British father (who had a British mother and a German Father) and a Danish mother.

Merely parroting the old line that the Royals are German is such a simplistic take on things as one can get, to the point of an absurd and downright wilfully ignorant interpretation of the facts, just to further an agenda....

As for the two pence thing, looks like it has been covered of already...



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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The Royal Family is no more German than I am Irish.. Get's right up my nose when people say this bollocks


Your Irish too...! Nice to meet you I have Irish blood in my too.... I am a little confused to why you think the Royal family is not German. The Windsor name now used by Queen Elizabeth II and other British royals only dates back to 1917. Before that the British royal family bore the German name Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Now that sounds pretty Germanic to me..



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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If you're going to be terribly simplistic about it.

The Royals were German, in so far as George II was born in Germany and spoke German. From George III onwards, they were all born and educated in the UK and spoke English. Around about the same sort of time my Irish forebears came over. Now, I am not Irish and neither are the Royals German.

Also, the House of Hanover was the first "Germanic" House that took the throne, with George II. From Edward VII it was actually the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (which changed it's name to Windsor) as Prince Albert was of that house when he married Victoria. The House of Hanover though was not "German", in so far as it was descended from the House of Welf, which as well as German holdings has French and Italian ones.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, merely looking at a noble House and declaring them "German" is ignoring a whole slew of very pertinent facts. They don't really adhere to nations like we do as their holdings are transient and are of much more importance to them.

It is also quite vital to point out that George III during his coronation speech made great pains to emphasise he was British, felt British, spoke English and did not consider himself German, like his father.

There is more to this than simply saying "He's German! Boo!" because it just makes you look silly.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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We are constantly told that all of the second and third generation immigrants in the UK are British and not Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi etc.
So if that's true, and I believe it to be so, why must different standards and criteria apply to The Royal Family?

All of my grandparents families etc came over to England from Ireland from between the late 1800's to just before WWII.
I am as English as you could possibly get.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Exactly chap, it's what I try to say everytime this sillyness come's up.

If we apply the same standard to the UK population, no one is English/Scottish/Welsh! The English only came about through immigration and cultural blending and the same can be said for the Scots and Welsh or, in fact, any cultural group anywhere. We didn't all leave the Rift valley in our little national groups....



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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OP, from you link to wikipedia, I followed the one about the expression "Ich dien", and got the following:



According to legend, the Black Prince obtained the arms from the blind John I of Bohemia, against whom he fought in the Battle of Crécy in 1346. After the battle, the prince went to the body of the dead king (whom he admired for his bravery) and took his helmet lined with ostrich feathers. The feathers and the dead king's motto made up the prince's new badge and came to be used by subsequent Princes of Wales.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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Nice catch, thank you for your awareness. It certainly is strange, but to the keen mind it makes sense. Don't worry in the United States we have deep evil meanings in our money also. You can also fold paper money certain ways for it to show you certain things, like the world trade centers burning, if you dont believe me youtube it.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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The Royal family have not been English in its true form since Alfred the Great.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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you mean "Elizabeth Báthory" or otherwise known as countess dracul, also it must be noted she is indeed hungarian, not romanian, but her lover was romanian. the movies changed a few essential details to make it more appealing, i.e by making the man the mad blood sucker, rather than a torturous female of her workers. many tortured and killed by Elizabeth Bathory were girls aged around 14 and younger that worked in her home as servants.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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Just throwing out my ignorant American philosophy here..

We find it confusing when you "were" German.. because we are a people that cling to our old heritages ... for ever. You'll be hard pressed to find someone say "oh I'm an American" when asked about heritage. Even if their ancestors got off the mayflower, they'll swear they're really English, not American. We're weird like that.

So to me, growing up with the ideology that you are not where you're born but where your ancestors are born .. I cannot fathom how the British peoples see the Royal Family as anything less than immigrants? German.. Dutch.. Greek.. whatever, but certainly not British.


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We are constantly told that all of the second and third generation immigrants in the UK are British and not Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi etc.


See from an American point of view they are Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi. Their children will be too. And their children. And if they find British mates, to an American they'd always be "half Indian, a quarter Indian" etc.
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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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Its not really a question of simplicity its a fact. If you want to know were someone comes from. Follow the bloodline...



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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reply to post by purplemer
 

You are of course correct, read the following and take a view of sector Headed Family.


en.wikipedia.org...

Completes the circle does it not.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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My first post and I am right into it,


Their name is Guelph,the Black Guelphs.
They fled to the swamps of Venice as Rome fell.
Venice ruled for more than a thousand years,a cruel,evil curse upon the world.
Constantinople was collapsing so they moved to Holland.navy,dykes and usury...get it?

Cromwell was their patsy,they financed him then they put William111 on the throne.
They got their private central bank and charters for the US and East India company.
The Irish and Scots were slaughtered....inferior.
BEIC declared war as it saw fit and was supported by England.
Any place they went horror and suffering accompanied.

The British Lords lived off slavery and opium...it stopped in the 1930 s under angry British protests.
It sprouted again in Burma and Helmand,Hong Kong survives on it as does the City.

Russia is being flooded wish heroin as China was 150 years ago yo undermine society and sell the gear.
Putin has warned the British Gov and maybe even her holiness the royal pusher to stop.

Finally,The Greek is Williams father.Look at the wedding,they were dressed the same Charlie and Lizzy were pushed back,Phil was beaming.
Too much inbreeding with the first four,C and A are retarded and Andrew belongs to some guy in the stable..the third lad is married but he was gay.
Charles is gay,he fathered neither of the princes.
That was the deal Phil was doing Diana,which is why Lizzy and Charlie hated her.

Phil was not allowed to use his family name,,,,,,well the next King will be Mountbatten his son,not a tree hugging simpleton,
IMO


One serious question..How can you let them force you use a poppy to commemorate your thousands of dead.
That is an act of dis respect to those men.

I have already said it was all about drugs and slaves,but some inbred Lord was having a laugh suggesting the poppy.
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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by Sk8ergrl
 


It is amazing how the Royal lineage of all of Europe are intertwined. I have even heard that many American Presidents are related through "blood" to the Monarchies of Europe.


Actually, someone traced almost all the Presidents back to England.

See this thread

1 Family has always ruled America: Girl Traces US Presidents' Family Tree, All Related But One,
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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There in lies the problem..

The UK's population is made up of waves of immigration going back over 2,000 years. Not a single person in the UK can escape that fact.

I am of the belief the Americans do as you say because of the relatively young age of the country and it's relative lack of history, so there is a social need to identify with some history, even if you have to track back to the mother country.

Here in the UK, we've always assimilated people into our society (Romans/Anglo-Saxons/Normans/Huguenots etc) , history and culture and they become British plus we have a shared history going back millennia. With those waves of migrants, we take the best they have to offer and it is incorporated into our own heritage. In the US, there is still very much a patchwork of culture and not a single, unified one like we have..



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